1. Spencerdl's Avatar
    I gave my old S3 to my mother and kept the charger brick myself.
    Why, do you ask? Well, for starters, they already have a few spare Apple charger bricks in a drawer, 2, they don’t like having chargers plugged in the outlet all the time. They take it out and put it back in the outlet with each charging process.

    I simply put the Watch cable in the USB port of their TV and told my mom that she could use that cable to charge her watch.

    That’s when less cable in view when you enter the living room
    In my opinion, it's like buying an appliance like a toaster, fan, TV, lamp ect and it doesn't come with a power cord to plug into an electrical socket...incomplete product. Just sayin.
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    09-29-2020 11:37 AM
  2. Annie_M's Avatar
    I have my charging bricks everywhere... home, work, mother inlaws, tech bags, glove compartments, etc., and I'm always looking for another. I have purchased extras from Amazon, but I still would want a new one when I buy a new device, because somehow, someway, it will be used.
    09-29-2020 11:48 AM
  3. tcuprof's Avatar
    One of the reasons we have a few extra adapters is that, when we remodeled the house last year, we installed several of these:

    No more USB power adapter with Apple Watch-outlet.jpg

    They cost about the same as Apple's 5W charger.
    09-29-2020 04:38 PM
  4. doogald's Avatar
    WHEW!!!!!!!! This thread has seriously brought out the PRIVILEGE That was not my intention in starting it & for that I apologize to anyone perusing the forum & is offended or felt they couldn’t ask a question in this thread for fear of being judged because they don’t have all this tech. This is really sad y’all!!!
    I haven't seen judging at all. You asked a question, people answered. Electronic waste is a problem and Apple is trying something to address it - maybe a small something, but it is something.
    09-29-2020 04:43 PM
  5. nikkisharif's Avatar
    I haven't seen judging at all. You asked a question, people answered. Electronic waste is a problem and Apple is trying something to address it - maybe a small something, but it is something.
    There was definitely some judgement referenced in people stating it’s 2020, like there’s no such thing as people being without a plethora of tech in this era. I agree there’s a lot of tech waste, shoot waste in general. One of the main reasons is people have zero responsibility for their actions & would rather throw something out than recycle or donate it. I don’t want to derail the thread, so I won’t mention it again....it just is what it is!!
    09-29-2020 05:37 PM
  6. FFR's Avatar
    WHEW!!!!!!!! This thread has seriously brought out the PRIVILEGE
    It’s not privilege but logic and common sense.

    You can’t use an Apple Watch without an iPhone, and the iPhone comes with a power brick.

    There was definitely some judgement referenced in people stating it’s 2020, like there’s no such thing as people being without a plethora of tech in this era.
    There was no judgment, just facts.

    No one said anyone had to have a “plethora” of tech or “all” the tech listed. Quite the opposite, just one piece of tech from the list mentioned above.
    09-30-2020 01:28 AM
  7. Modelflier's Avatar
    I’m still a bit confused how the elderly couple are hoping to use the health information to any degree from an Apple Watch without combining it with the various Health apps on an iPhone!
    09-30-2020 08:18 AM
  8. doogald's Avatar
    It’s not privilege but logic and common sense.

    You can’t use an Apple Watch without an iPhone, and the iPhone comes with a power brick.
    As has been mentioned several times now, yes, you can, with the new family setup. A family can set up multiple Apple Watches with a single iPhone. You can set up an Apple Watch for an elderly relative who doesn't own an iPhone.
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    09-30-2020 10:57 AM
  9. FFR's Avatar
    As has been mentioned several times now, yes, you can, with the new family setup. A family can set up multiple Apple Watches with a single iPhone. You can set up an Apple Watch for an elderly relative who doesn't own an iPhone.
    Watching the presentation of the apple watch 6 launch, I was under the impression that feature was per household, to be within range of the iPhone, but I have never used any of the family features apple offers.
    09-30-2020 12:22 PM
  10. Tartarus's Avatar
    Watching the presentation of the apple watch 6 launch, I was under the impression that feature was per household, to be within range of the iPhone, but I have never used any of the family features apple offers.
    Family Setup actually invalidates the arguments for no brick.

    Those people using an Watch through Family Setup will need their own charger brick, as one brick definitely won’t be enough for 2 people with 4 devices, let more people with more than 1 device.

    But I’m still team ‘no brick’.
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    09-30-2020 12:33 PM
  11. doogald's Avatar
    Watching the presentation of the apple watch 6 launch, I was under the impression that feature was per household, to be within range of the iPhone, but I have never used any of the family features apple offers.
    I use family setup for iCloud etc., which this extends, with my wife and two kids, and the kids live in different states from us. (They don't own watches so we won't add that part.)

    You don't have to be in the same physical location, no. Family setup requires a cellular S4 or newer (though strangely a cellular plan is recommended though not required.)
    10-01-2020 10:32 AM
  12. FFR's Avatar
    I use family setup for iCloud etc., which this extends, with my wife and two kids, and the kids live in different states from us. (They don't own watches so we won't add that part.)

    You don't have to be in the same physical location, no. Family setup requires a cellular S4 or newer (though strangely a cellular plan is recommended though not required.)
    I wouldn’t know.

    I also have no idea if iCloud family plans are the same as Apple Watch family set up. One is In the cloud and the other is used locally on the device, or I would assume.

    What would happen if the iphone used to set up the apple watches needs to be replaced or was stolen. That could be a mess.

    Currently if you get a new iPhone you would need to unpair the Apple Watch or transfer it over to the new iPhone, could you do that remotely or would you still need the iPhone to be in range of the Apple Watch.

    Clearly not as black and white as some posters are trying to make it out to be.


    Family Setup actually invalidates the arguments for no brick.
    I don’t know how it works but I still don’t believe it does.

    For example how would you update the Apple Watch without an iPhone?

    Or add/remove/adjust a mobile data plan Or Apple Pay. Perhaps with iOS 15, but some things still require the Apple Watch app on the iPhone.

    Those people using an Watch through Family Setup will need their own charger brick, as one brick definitely won’t be enough for 2 people with 4 devices, let more people with more than 1 device.’.
    True, but 2 Individuals with 4 devices, 2 iPhones and 2 Apple watches would have 2 apple bricks. If one has an old Apple Watch, series 5,4,3, etc, that would make 3.

    But I’m still team ‘no brick’.
    We need some T-shirt’s,
    10-01-2020 06:48 PM
  13. Tartarus's Avatar
    For example how would you update the Apple Watch without an iPhone?
    On the Watch, go to Settings > General > Software Update.
    You can check for / perform software updates without using your iPhone.

    We need some T-shirt’s,
    10-01-2020 11:05 PM
  14. FFR's Avatar
    On the Watch, go to Settings > General > Software Update.
    You can check for / perform software updates without using your iPhone.

    Thank you, didn’t know that was possible, honestly going to make updating the Apple Watch so much easier.
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    10-02-2020 12:51 AM
  15. Garz's Avatar
    At this point, why do they include them in the box? Just have a supply at the store, and when someone buys one, ask if they need one.
    Many people order and have them shipped.
    10-02-2020 01:21 AM
  16. Speedygi's Avatar
    Someone who doesn't have these chargers will be flipping imo.
    10-02-2020 01:52 AM
  17. doogald's Avatar
    Or add/remove/adjust a mobile data plan Or Apple Pay.
    All that is done through the iPhone that set up the family setup for the watch. For Apple Pay, family setup includes Apple Pay cash, so you can load the watch of family members with money to be used for Apple Pay. I have no idea if an elderly relative can add cards to an AW set up the way for them, but clearly that is not the intention of family setup - it is to get an AW to somebody who doesn't own, doesn't want to own, or cannot afford to pwn an iPhone of their own.

    Apple Pay cash: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/09/15...e-cash-family/
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    10-02-2020 11:37 AM
  18. mogelijk's Avatar
    I agree with you that a VERY high percentage of buyers would request one. What I don't agree with is the "small fee." $5 is a small fee. Having to pay an extra $19 for a dinky 5W adapter is egregious.
    I'm guessing Tarturus wouldn't disagree with that point. I can't recall if it was this thread but I thought Apple should make a charger available, on request, with the order. I thought that offering it free would cause most people to request one, so suggested a $5 fee to get one with your order (enough to discourage people who don't need it, but still cheap enough that it isn't a "burden"). Of course, they would keep selling the replacement bricks for $19 from Apple stores, the $5 would only be for those added to an order of an Apple Watch.

    As it is, I still say the best bet is to order a "cheap" (but good quality) charger from some other retailer. For example, Amazon has good rated bricks for under $9.
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    10-02-2020 03:03 PM
  19. FFR's Avatar
    All that is done through the iPhone that set up the family setup for the watch. For Apple Pay, family setup includes Apple Pay cash, so you can load the watch of family members with money to be used for Apple Pay. I have no idea if an elderly relative can add cards to an AW set up the way for them, but clearly that is not the intention of family setup - it is to get an AW to somebody who doesn't own, doesn't want to own, or cannot afford to pwn an iPhone of their own.

    Apple Pay cash: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/09/15...e-cash-family/
    Thank you for the information on family plans and Apple Pay.
    10-02-2020 04:02 PM
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