1. Ipheuria's Avatar
    Just a few minutes ago I was listening to Virgin Radio Toronto. They were talking about a new piece of "news". About the Watch and wrist tattoos. The radio hosts proceeded to say that a wrist tattoo will prevent the watch from getting notifications or from apps working correctly because the watch can't monitor a heartbeat. I know iMore reported on this already and although I didn't read it I can surmise that the heart monitor would be the only thing affected. How would that affect apps from working or the watch from getting notifications? Then the host went on to say I feel like "if Steve Jobs weren't around" stop me if you heard this before. I just cringed and switched the channel. I feel like ***** announcers shouldn't be able to talk about things they know nothing about on air. It's misleading to a whole bunch of listeners who are now going to raise a stink whether or not they have wrist tattoos.
    04-30-2015 07:14 AM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    The media will lie. Period. As long as it gets them temporary ratings, they will say anything about anything... True or not.
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    04-30-2015 07:21 AM
  3. iEd's Avatar
    This vid shows how other features may be affected by tattoos.



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    04-30-2015 07:24 AM
  4. Bigeric23's Avatar
    I agree with what you've stated. Rene brought up this topic on a podcast, too, regarding individuals that write news articles. I'm guessing fact checking and integrity are a thing of the past.
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    04-30-2015 07:33 AM
  5. Scatabrain's Avatar
    It's totally possible in theory that losing 'contact' to skin would be like taking the watch off. But it's an edge case. This person probably has some other life trade offs (some don't make sense) and the watch is possibly just one more. I doubt anyone would regret tattoos because of the watch. Blaming/making hay with Apple for not catering to the double wrist tattooed community is kind of a stretch IMO.
    It's also conceivable that a software update could behave better in this situation minus whatever features benefit from complete contact from skin such as heart rate and pin code supported features.

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    04-30-2015 08:10 AM
  6. Ipheuria's Avatar
    The media will lie. Period. As long as it gets them temporary ratings, they will say anything about anything... True or not.
    I agree with what you've stated. Rene brought up this topic on a podcast, too, regarding individuals that write news articles. I'm guessing fact checking and integrity are a thing of the past.
    It is such a shame though because if you think about it. The radio hosts are giving "news", in their case I use the term loosely, for the benefit of their listeners. This doesn't benefit the listeners if it's incorrect. So really if you're willing to put ratings over the benefit of what your job is supposed to be that is a sad, sad thing.

    This vid shows how other features may be affected by tattoos.



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    I will have to watch this as well I have the iMore article open to read later. I'm sure I will have friends and family asking me now.
    04-30-2015 08:33 AM
  7. lexic's Avatar
    I'm pretty sick of the stories that are stating tattoos make the watch a no go. I have *zero* issues with mine. Some people have issues. This does not mean all people do or will. iMore seems to have the most reasonable coverage of the topic. Has any other site even tried to test this before reporting?
    04-30-2015 12:09 PM
  8. Ipheuria's Avatar
    I'm pretty sick of the stories that are stating tattoos make the watch a no go. I have *zero* issues with mine. Some people have issues. This does not mean all people do or will. iMore seems to have the most reasonable coverage of the topic. Has any other site even tried to test this before reporting?
    Here's the thing I don't know if it's because I grew up in a third world country(island) or it's because I'm from an older generation. There seems to be this whole attitude now of accepting no responsibility. I don't have a wrist tatoo but you know what if I did I don't expect Apple to change the laws of F'ing reality. If certain features of the watch don't work then I would either a) not buy it or b) do without the feature. It's not like the Watch is the only smartwatch on the market. I see this all the time with friends who bring me their busted a$$ laptop asking me to fix it. I ask "Do you have any backups?" they look at me like I have a third eye. Why would they do backups the software is built in to both Windows and Mac OS but why should they need to know that right? I see people all the time with broken screens on phones and it's the same attitude. They act as if it's unthinkable that the screen broke. Put a case on it if you dont' want the screen to break. What is the usual response "I don't like how bulky it is". Well then pay the money and STFU.
    04-30-2015 12:45 PM
  9. lexic's Avatar
    Here's the thing I don't know if it's because I grew up in a third world country(island) or it's because I'm from an older generation. There seems to be this whole attitude now of accepting no responsibility. I don't have a wrist tatoo but you know what if I did I don't expect Apple to change the laws of F'ing reality. If certain features of the watch don't work then I would either a) not buy it or b) do without the feature. It's not like the Watch is the only smartwatch on the market. I see this all the time with friends who bring me their busted a$$ laptop asking me to fix it. I ask "Do you have any backups?" they look at me like I have a third eye. Why would they do backups the software is built in to both Windows and Mac OS but why should they need to know that right? I see people all the time with broken screens on phones and it's the same attitude. They act as if it's unthinkable that the screen broke. Put a case on it if you dont' want the screen to break. What is the usual response "I don't like how bulky it is". Well then pay the money and STFU.
    Agree. Not sure your age, but I'm in my 40s and agree that it might be a generational thing.
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    04-30-2015 12:55 PM
  10. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    It's totally possible in theory that losing 'contact' to skin would be like taking the watch off. But it's an edge case. This person probably has some other life trade offs (some don't make sense) and the watch is possibly just one more. I doubt anyone would regret tattoos because of the watch. Blaming/making hay with Apple for not catering to the double wrist tattooed community is kind of a stretch IMO.
    It's also conceivable that a software update could behave better in this situation minus whatever features benefit from complete contact from skin such as heart rate and pin code supported features.

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    Regretting getting a tattoo because a watch comes out is hilarious. Especially when there are so many legitimate reasons to regret getting a tattoo haha.

    I wouldn't give up any of my tattoos for an apple watch or any tech that doesn't last a lifetime like a tattoo does.
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    04-30-2015 01:01 PM
  11. Ipheuria's Avatar
    Agree. Not sure your age, but I'm in my 40s and agree that it might be a generational thing.
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    Regretting getting a tattoo because a watch comes out is hilarious. Especially when there are so many legitimate reasons to regret getting a tattoo haha.

    I wouldn't give up any of my tattoos for an apple watch or any tech that doesn't last a lifetime like a tattoo does.
    Same I love my tats and if I did have one on my wrist then I'd either just not use the feature or not get the watch.
    04-30-2015 01:12 PM
  12. Bifurcated's Avatar
    Same I love my tats and if I did have one on my wrist then I'd either just not use the feature or not get the watch.
    I partly agree with you, but people complaining do have a point... It's not at all intuitive that having a tattoo would prevent you from being able to use Apple Pay. Apple needs to be clear about the limitations of the device, and then people can make their own decisions.

    (For those who didn't watch the video above, the watch biometrically identifies the person wearing it via heart rate, and so you can't use Apple Pay if it can't read the HR.)
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    04-30-2015 03:19 PM
  13. Ipheuria's Avatar
    I partly agree with you, but people complaining do have a point... It's not at all intuitive that having a tattoo would prevent you from being able to use Apple Pay. Apple needs to be clear about the limitations of the device, and then people can make their own decisions.

    (For those who didn't watch the video above, the watch biometrically identifies the person wearing it via heart rate, and so you can't use Apple Pay if it can't read the HR.)
    I would agree with you if there wasn't a 15 day return period. The thing to consider is I'm sure there are many edge cases where the features of the watch don't work. If Apple was to list all the possible combinations that would become very tedious. So it's pretty quick that an owner would figure out it doesn't work and send it back.
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    04-30-2015 06:45 PM
  14. essay2u's Avatar
    I partly agree with you, but people complaining do have a point... It's not at all intuitive that having a tattoo would prevent you from being able to use Apple Pay. Apple needs to be clear about the limitations of the device, and then people can make their own decisions.

    (For those who didn't watch the video above, the watch biometrically identifies the person wearing it via heart rate, and so you can't use Apple Pay if it can't read the HR.)
    I didn't know the watch identifies you biometrically for Apple pay. I did watch the video above but feel like I'm missing something. Why do I need a password if it's on my wrist? Especially given it can identify you biometrically. What am I not getting?
    04-30-2015 07:52 PM
  15. Ipheuria's Avatar
    I didn't know the watch identifies you biometrically for Apple pay. I did watch the video above but feel like I'm missing something. Why do I need a password if it's on my wrist? Especially given it can identify you biometrically. What am I not getting?
    When you put it on and you key in your passcode it authenticates you as the user. Then as long as you the watch stays in contact with your skin then it knows that you are the authenticated user. It doesn't authenticate you biometrically just through the sensors making contact with your skin. So if there was no passcode then anyone could pick up your watch slap it on and use your apple pay.
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    04-30-2015 09:47 PM
  16. Bifurcated's Avatar
    When you put it on and you key in your passcode it authenticates you as the user. Then as long as you the watch stays in contact with your skin then it knows that you are the authenticated user. It doesn't authenticate you biometrically just through the sensors making contact with your skin. So if there was no passcode then anyone could pick up your watch slap it on and use your apple pay.
    Yes, you explained it better than my hurried explanation. Thanks Ipheuria. Exactly - the watch uses biometrics to determine that you haven't taken it off since you last put in your passcode. In the video linked above, you can see the tattooed user having to type in the passcode over and over again since the watch keeps believing it is off. This leads to the other problem, that you won't get notifications since when the watch believes it is not being worn.
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    05-01-2015 08:38 AM
  17. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    There's too much ignorance out there at this time. In time, even most of the media will get it right. Or they should.


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    05-01-2015 10:11 AM
  18. Ipheuria's Avatar
    Yes, you explained it better than my hurried explanation. Thanks Ipheuria. Exactly - the watch uses biometrics to determine that you haven't taken it off since you last put in your passcode. In the video linked above, you can see the tattooed user having to type in the passcode over and over again since the watch keeps believing it is off. This leads to the other problem, that you won't get notifications since when the watch believes it is not being worn.
    OK now I could see how the notifications issue comes up because of the tatoo.
    05-01-2015 11:32 AM
  19. cody's Avatar
    Yesterday I was told that the watched was powered by the persons heart rate and that those with tattoos would have to charge with a power charger that wasn't included. LOL
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    05-01-2015 12:44 PM
  20. Ipheuria's Avatar
    Yesterday I was told that the watched was powered by the persons heart rate and that those with tattoos would have to charge with a power charger that wasn't included. LOL
    lol thanks for the best laugh I've had all day.
    05-01-2015 01:51 PM
  21. boovish's Avatar
    Not all tattoos will prevent the heartbeat from being read, only the ones with ink based on metals.
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    05-01-2015 02:16 PM

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