1. Just_Me_D's Avatar
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    When Apple unveiled the iPhone, these above pictured phones were the most popular in the market at the time.
    IPhone changed the game.
    Perhaps I was expecting more of the same from the watch.
    Perhaps, but still, let's recall the last year's launch of the iPhone 5C. It was not innovative, it had a plastic casing, and was basically a repackaged iPhone 5, and yet, millions of them sold. The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus isn't innovative, and some call it fugly, and yet, millions of each will be sold. Having said that, how important is being innovative as opposed to being successful and profitable?
    09-10-2014 03:32 PM
  2. taz323's Avatar
    From a design standpoint, they certainly aren't game changing. Look at those phones in my picture and then look at phones now. All because of Apple.
    Time will tell.
    09-10-2014 03:32 PM
  3. ecr80's Avatar
    i remember the iPad was first announced, how it was mocked by people, and look at it now. the same thing will happen here.
    09-10-2014 04:03 PM
  4. mummer43's Avatar
    The fact that it needs to be tethered to the iphone is a deal breaker for me. My main reason for wanting on would be to use as a fitness device. I'd want to use it when I run as a GPS to tell me hiw far I've gone, my pace, my avg. speed, etc. I'd also expect it to cross over to other activities such as biking and swimming. I'd also want to use it to send and receive text messages. However, having to also carry my phone while doing these activities defeats the purpose of a wearable device. I have a Suunto watch that does all of the things I mentioned, minus the text messages, without the need to carry my phone.

    If apple can put all that together, plus he ability to receive texts as well as connect to wireless earphones the I'd be interested. I don't need photos. I don't need to send my heart rate to my friends, I don't need the ability to make little drawings, I need a device that stands on it's own without the need carry my phone. Apple failed as far as I'm concerned.
    09-10-2014 04:45 PM
  5. pwrof3's Avatar
    The fact that it needs to be tethered to the iphone is a deal breaker for me. My main reason for wanting on would be to use as a fitness device. I'd want to use it when I run as a GPS to tell me hiw far I've gone, my pace, my avg. speed, etc. I'd also expect it to cross over to other activities such as biking and swimming. I'd also want to use it to send and receive text messages. However, having to also carry my phone while doing these activities defeats the purpose of a wearable device. I have a Suunto watch that does all of the things I mentioned, minus the text messages, without the need to carry my phone.

    If apple can put all that together, plus he ability to receive texts as well as connect to wireless earphones the I'd be interested. I don't need photos. I don't need to send my heart rate to my friends, I don't need the ability to make little drawings, I need a device that stands on it's own without the need carry my phone. Apple failed as far as I'm concerned.
    I agree somewhat. Why have a watch when you need to have the phone in your pocket the entire time? Since you're coming from a fitness perspective, having to have the phone attached to an armband or bouncing around in running shorts pockets does seem less than ideal.

    You may want to wait a while and see what Microsoft has to offer. Yeah, I know, Microsoft isn't popular around here, but they are actually working on a device that focuses on health and fitness and will work with all of the phone platforms. Not sure if you'd actually have to have the pone with you.
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    09-10-2014 05:08 PM
  6. EEZ123's Avatar
    I have used my iPhone while I train for triathlons for years. The only thing I can't use it for is swim training. I like the security of having the phone available in case of emergency, for music, I need it with me because I must take work call, and I use several apps such as Strava, Runkeeper, nike run etc. So for me its great. I also have the garmin 310XT and I use the iphone/pebble more than my Garmin.
    09-10-2014 05:38 PM
  7. nikkisharif's Avatar
    But how is the Apple Watch any better than others can't already do?
    Why is there always that person that looks too much into everything. My new Movado isn't very innovative either, but it's nice & the quality is impeccable & best of all...it's my preference. Same with this. People will love it because it utilizes features specific to their preferred device. Just like the Samsung Gear. It probably doesn't interest you if you're using a device other than Samsung.
    09-10-2014 11:21 PM
  8. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    According to whom? Just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean a majority feels the same way. Why?
    Digital Crown, imo, is unnecessary and archaic because there is no need to zoom anything on an already small screen. Having that physical dial is clumsy and inefficient. By the time you turn it to zoom and then tap to select your target, mind as well fetch out your phone. A smartwatch is supposed to make things more quickly and easily via swipes or voice commands. Who in the own right mind would want to zoom to look at a pict on a tiny screen? When your hands are tied up, voice commands or swipes are far more efficient then to turn a dial.

    Having the Digital Crown can cause wear and tear to its mechanism down the road, like the “Pearl” of the Blackberry Pearl phone.

    Samsung and Google got it better, imo. They really highlight easy swipes and their respective voice commands.

    Furthermore, the Digital Crown button looks way too archaic. Apple is known for simple, clean, and modern designs, that knob thing, although it looks classy, makes the whole look not modern at all, to me. Samsung Gear S, on the other hand, looks very modern and futuristic…and DIFFERENT, and can do way more than the Apple Watch.
    09-10-2014 11:30 PM
  9. HankAZ's Avatar
    Digital Crown, imo, is unnecessary and archaic because there is no need to zoom anything on an already small screen. Having that physical dial is clumsy and inefficient. By the time you turn it to zoom and then tap to select your target, mind as well fetch out your phone. A smartwatch is supposed to make things more quickly and easily via swipes or voice commands. Who in the own right mind would want to zoom to look at a pict on a tiny screen? When your hands are tied up, voice commands or swipes are far more efficient then to turn a dial.

    Having the Digital Crown can cause wear and tear to its mechanism down the road, like the “Pearl” of the Blackberry Pearl phone.

    Samsung and Google got it better, imo. They really highlight easy swipes and their respective voice commands.

    Furthermore, the Digital Crown button looks way too archaic. Apple is known for simple, clean, and modern designs, that knob thing, although it looks classy, makes the whole look not modern at all, to me. Samsung Gear S, on the other hand, looks very modern and futuristic…and DIFFERENT, and can do way more than the Apple Watch.
    Vote with your wallet. If "Samsung and Google got it better" is your mantra, why are you even here? Go buy what you think will work in your situation. Opinions are just that - opinions. They aren’t universal facts. So buy what you want and allow others to buy what they want. I see this constant picking and "mine is better than yours" garbage as nothing more than juvenile insecurity. But rather than being happy with what you have, you want to tear down the options.
    Last edited by HankAZ; 09-11-2014 at 09:14 AM.
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    09-10-2014 11:38 PM
  10. HankAZ's Avatar
    Yeah, I know, Microsoft isn't popular around here, but they are actually working on a device that focuses on health and fitness and will work with all of the phone platforms. Not sure if you'd actually have to have the pone with you.
    Funny thing is, everybody is always working on something. The winners are the ones that deliver.
    09-10-2014 11:39 PM
  11. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    Why is there always that person that looks too much into everything. My new Movado isn't very innovative either, but it's nice & the quality is impeccable & best of all...it's my preference. Same with this. People will love it because it utilizes features specific to their preferred device. Just like the Samsung Gear. It probably doesn't interest you if you're using a device other than Samsung.
    I guess I expect too much out of Apple. They have the benefit of knowing the competition, so I was hoping they would have produced something more compelling with another WOW factor. Doesn’t matter if I’m a big Samsung fan or not. What motivate me on a smartwatch are these things: modern & clean design, quickness & efficiency, stand alone, good battery life, and price.
    09-10-2014 11:45 PM
  12. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    Vote with your wallet. If "Samsung and Google got it better" is your mantra, why are you even here? Go buy what you think will work in your situation. Opinions are just that - opinions. They aren’t universal facts. So buy what you want and allow others to buy what they want. I see this constant picking and "mine is better than yours" garbage as nothing more that insecurity. But rather than being happy with what you have, you want to tear down the options.
    Well, this is a discussion board, is it not? We all are here to discuss, debate, and dissect various viewpoints, no? No harm intended.
    09-10-2014 11:49 PM
  13. nikkisharif's Avatar
    I guess I expect too much out of Apple. They have the benefit of knowing the competition, so I was hoping they would have produced something more compelling with another WOW factor. Doesnt matter if Im a big Samsung fan or not. What motivate me on a smartwatch are these things: modern & clean design, quickness & efficiency, stand alone, good battery life, and price.
    Understandable but someone else may feel these things are already evident. Different strokes for different folks. Maybe the next iteration will be better for you.

    Edit: BTW...I also have a GS5 & wouldn't even consider the Gear because it's not very fashion forward. You & so many others love it. It's just a difference in opinions.
    09-10-2014 11:50 PM
  14. HankAZ's Avatar
    Well, this is a discussion board, is it not? We all are here to discuss, debate, and dissect various viewpoints, no? No harm intended.
    Of course not. It would be different if we all went to your house an peed in your punch bowl.
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    09-10-2014 11:54 PM
  15. nikkisharif's Avatar
    Well, this is a discussion board, is it not? We all are here to discuss, debate, and dissect various viewpoints, no? No harm intended.
    We're a friendly bunch & as you know us tech junkies are very passionate people. No harm no foul

    Of course not. It would be different if we all went to your house an peed in your punch bowl.
    LOL
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    09-10-2014 11:57 PM
  16. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    Understandable but someone else may feel these things are already evident. Different strokes for different folks. Maybe the next iteration will be better for you.

    Edit: BTW...I also have a GS5 & wouldn't even consider the Gear because it's not very fashion forward. You & so many others love it. It's just a difference in opinions.
    I too have a Samsung GS5, but may consider the new IPhone 6 or 6 Plus cuz of their simple and modern design, and finally with a bigger screen. However, I love my Samsung Gear 2, and absolutely sold on the Gear S for its simple and modern curvy design, and its standalone features. Why can't I have the new IPhones with the new Gear S???
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    09-11-2014 12:05 AM
  17. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    Of course not. It would be different if we all went to your house an peed in your punch bowl.
    Oh my, what scary *** clown showed up at your birthday party?
    09-11-2014 12:07 AM
  18. Beyond Fire's Avatar
    Oh my, what scary *** clown showed up at your birthday party?
    These ones!

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    09-11-2014 12:24 AM
  19. Coachbulldog's Avatar
    Agreed. "I am not here to troll" rates with Nixon's "I am not a crook" speech. Like with a politician says "in all honesty". Not buying it.
    I've been a high school teacher for 35 years. When a student begins explaining something with "Coach, I promise..." I automatically assume what they say next is less than truthful.
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    09-11-2014 01:38 AM
  20. Peligro911's Avatar
    Too soon to say anything really .. Battery life is huge for me and charge every night won't work for me .. They said about local storage ? How many gb etc and only entry price was released .. I'll see how this plays out before I even think about getting one


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    09-11-2014 04:28 AM
  21. calebt's Avatar
    I'm a traditional watch guy I like my swiss automatic's over these smart watches any day, with that said I was disappointed with the apple watch also. Was hoping for a nice small watch that accented my 5S not something that reminds me of a chunky bar and needs to tether to my phone.
    I'm sure refined versions will be released in the future.
    09-11-2014 06:06 AM
  22. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Digital Crown, imo, is unnecessary and archaic because there is no need to zoom anything on an already small screen.
    it is not just for zooming. It's also used to navigate through the device.
    Having that physical dial is clumsy and inefficient.
    Have you used the Watch before to be able to make such a definitive statement?
    By the time you turn it to zoom and then tap to select your target, mind as well fetch out your phone.
    Have you used the Watch before?
    A smartwatch is supposed to make things more quickly and easily via swipes or voice commands.
    According to whom?
    Who in the own right mind would want to zoom to look at a pict on a tiny screen? When your hands are tied up, voice commands or swipes are far more efficient then to turn a dial.
    Who in their right mind would try so hard to convey his personal preferences on how a device that he did not make should have been? Yet, here you are.

    Having the Digital Crown can cause wear and tear to its mechanism down the road, like the “Pearl” of the Blackberry Pearl phone.
    Now you're being silly. None of the Blackberry devices I've owned, including the pearl, were ever damaged. Having said that, why do some smartphones get scratched and nicked while inside a protective casing?

    Samsung and Google got it better, imo. They really highlight easy swipes and their respective voice commands.
    You could very well be right.

    Furthermore, the Digital Crown button looks way too archaic. Apple is known for simple, clean, and modern designs, that knob thing, although it looks classy, makes the whole look not modern at all, to me. Samsung Gear S, on the other hand, looks very modern and futuristic…and DIFFERENT, and can do way more than the Apple Watch.
    Okay, but which company will sell more, in your humble opinion? If it turns out to be Apple, will you man up and admit that your preferences didn't add up to a hill of beans and Consumers, as a whole, thought otherwise?
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 09-11-2014 at 08:00 AM.
    09-11-2014 07:19 AM
  23. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I'm a traditional watch guy I like my swiss automatic's over these smart watches any day,
    Same here. I wear a watch everyday and have been for years.
    with that said I was disappointed with the apple watch also.
    No problem. Personally, I wasn't
    Was hoping for a nice small watch that accented my 5S not something that reminds me of a chunky bar and needs to tether to my phone.
    I'm sure refined versions will be released in the future.
    Time will tell....
    09-11-2014 09:23 AM
  24. Duvi's Avatar
    Same here. I wear a watch everyday and have been for years. No problem. Personally, I wasn't Time will tell....
    Not even sure why you're continuing with that guy... lol.

    I know damn well he a crown would be useful when his hands are dirty and/or wet and the touchscreen isn't responsive.
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    09-11-2014 09:57 AM
  25. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Not even sure why you're continuing with that guy... lol.

    I know damn well he a crown would be useful when his hands are dirty and/or wet and the touchscreen isn't responsive.
    You know me....I'll converse with anybody....until I start getting irritated....(laughing)
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    09-11-2014 09:59 AM
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