1. rockitdog23's Avatar
    I picked up my S3 (Non-LTE) from Apple on Saturday and have to say I've been underwhelmed thus far. I never felt my S1 was that slow to begin with but I don't really feel like my S3 is blazing fast or blows my S1 away. I'm not someone who swims a lot of does any sort of mountain climbing so the waterproofing and addition of the barometric altimeter isn't that much of a bonus for me. The difference in brightness is nice on the S3 but again not other worldly bright. What am I missing? The Series 2 at least had the nice ceramic back but now the S3 has the exact same back as my S1 also.
    09-25-2017 04:59 PM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I understand. Although I use my original series all day every day, it’s not something I’ll upgrade on an annual basis like my iPhone. I use it as a watch first and then as a notifications center and quick reply for when I‘m not in an environment use my iPhone. I will not get another watch until this one conks our.
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    09-25-2017 05:12 PM
  3. Frehley's Avatar
    I can understand your comments. I got the series 3 with LTE, and I had the series 0 previously.

    I have to say that the series 3 is much faster in response and the screen is more vibrant and, at least in my opinion, much easier to view in bright light.
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    09-25-2017 05:33 PM
  4. TripleOne's Avatar
    If the 70% speed bump and improved battery life doesn’t impress you, there’s nothing wrong with going back to Series 1.
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    09-25-2017 06:36 PM
  5. doogald's Avatar
    I'm not someone who swims a lot of does any sort of mountain climbing...
    FWIW, the altimeter is not just useful for mountain climbing. If you have an iPhone 6s or later and look at the Health app, you'll notice one measure is flights climbed - i.e., the equivalent number of flights of stairs that you have gained in elevation during the day. The Series 2 and earlier did not measure this. In addition, walking or running or biking up hill takes more energy than over a flat, so in older models of the Apple Watch you potentially get less credit for calories expended in the Move ring.

    Is that worth the extra price? Maybe not for you, but maybe for other people. (It's not for me. The S2 remains more than good enough for me.)

    The Series 2 at least had the nice ceramic back but now the S3 has the exact same back as my S1 also.
    No kidding. An unfortunate downgrade IMO.
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    09-25-2017 07:35 PM
  6. mogelijk's Avatar
    From what I can tell, the main things the Series 3 improves on the Series 1 is the faster processor, the GPS and altimeter, improved battery life, brighter screen, and Siri speaking to you. And just a correction, the aluminum Series 2 has the same ion-x back as the Series 1; on both the Series 2 and Series 3, you have to upgrade to the Stainless Steel to get the ceramic and sapphire glass back.

    Only you can decide if those features are worth it for you.
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    09-25-2017 11:42 PM
  7. TripleOne's Avatar
    From what I can tell, the main things the Series 3 improves on the Series 1 is the faster processor, the GPS and altimeter, improved battery life, brighter screen, and Siri speaking to you. And just a correction, the aluminum Series 2 has the same ion-x back as the Series 1; on both the Series 2 and Series 3, you have to upgrade to the Stainless Steel to get the ceramic and sapphire glass back.

    Only you can decide if those features are worth it for you.
    The Aluminium GPS + LTE comes with Ceramic Back too.
    The GPS only version is the one that comes with a composite back.
    Frehley likes this.
    09-26-2017 04:25 AM
  8. fabio984's Avatar
    Good to read (because I’m waiting for my Apple Watch series 1, used, eBay)
    09-26-2017 05:04 AM
  9. doogald's Avatar
    And just a correction, the aluminum Series 2 has the same ion-x back as the Series 1; on both the Series 2 and Series 3, you have to upgrade to the Stainless Steel to get the ceramic and sapphire glass back.
    Small re-correction - My aluminum Series 2, and all Series 2 watches, has a ceramic back. (And is a little dirty.)

    From Series 1 to Series 3, now thinking about going back to series 1-img_0462.jpg

    Ion-x glass front rather than sapphire, but ceramic rather than composite back. Series 1 has always been composite back (but also only aluminum case). The original AW was ceramic back only for stainless steel and the edition models.
    09-26-2017 05:40 AM
  10. jpgti's Avatar
    Can confirm the AW3 Aluminum LTE has the ceramic back. I guess I never paid attention to the AW2 I had.



    To the OP, everyone perceives an "upgrade" differently. I went from a Series 0 to a Series 2 and now to the Series 3, and none of them really impressed me much in terms of a speed upgrade. I am just not on the watch itself enough to really feel the speed difference - I use it more for the notifications. The screen brightness was noticeable from the 0 to the 2, the 0 was basically useless in direct sunlight. It was the LTE that sold me on the 3- there are many times I would just assume leave the phone behind and still be able to receive calls and messages. Nobody should feel compelled to upgrade just because its available.
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    09-26-2017 01:08 PM
  11. Mac Guy's Avatar
    No kidding. An unfortunate downgrade IMO.
    While I don't know that I'll ever appreciate the difference between composite and ceramic backs, it's disappointing that Apple chose to use ceramic backs on only the S3C (Cellular) Watch, when all the S2s had ceramic backs.

    If it was me, I'd wear the S3 for awhile, then go back to the S1 to see if there was a significant difference. Sometimes a downgrade is more noticeable than an upgrade.

    But so far, assuming LTE isn't important to you, the Watch evolution is closer to current phone iteration, not like earlier where the next version tend to offer some really significant features. That may be the lot of the Watch or any smartwatch— incremental, not revolutionary progress.


    Nobody should feel compelled to upgrade just because its available.
    Yep.
    10-01-2017 12:57 PM
  12. Jude526's Avatar
    I am glad I made the switch. There are times I want the opportunity to leave phone at home. Walking for one. It’s going to free me up and I can concentrate on my being outside and still connected. If am out and carrying a really small purse. No issue
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    10-01-2017 08:42 PM
  13. TripleOne's Avatar
    I am glad I made the switch. There are times I want the opportunity to leave phone at home. Walking for one. It’s going to free me up and I can concentrate on my being outside and still connected. If am out and carrying a really small purse. No issue
    Yep!
    And the new processor makes everything so much better.
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    10-01-2017 09:37 PM
  14. mogelijk's Avatar
    I can state that I absolutely made the right decision to upgrade from the Series 1 to Series 3. The single biggest reason, for me, is battery life. I went from not being able to get a full day -- if I used my watch a lot -- to being able to get 2 days of usage (but just one night, so just over 40 hours) on a single charge.
    10-02-2017 08:31 PM
  15. TripleOne's Avatar
    I can state that I absolutely made the right decision to upgrade from the Series 1 to Series 3. The single biggest reason, for me, is battery life. I went from not being able to get a full day -- if I used my watch a lot -- to being able to get 2 days of usage (but just one night, so just over 40 hours) on a single charge.
    Series 3’s battery life is very impressive. I can’t imagine what it’s going to be like down the road with the Series 4, 5, and so forth.
    What do you use your Watch most for?
    10-03-2017 03:09 AM
  16. mogelijk's Avatar
    Series 3’s battery life is very impressive. I can’t imagine what it’s going to be like down the road with the Series 4, 5, and so forth.
    What do you use your Watch most for?
    Largely for the notifications and fitness type tracking. I also use it, mostly though complications, to keep a tabs on the weather (currently feels like 90 and raining). In WatchOS 4 I also appreciate the heart rate tracker, I'm old enough that is something that is nice to have. I also like how it gives the "remote" while listening to music in iOS 4, very handy when wearing AirPods. Last, with the battery life I'm getting, I'm starting to use the watch to track my sleep.
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    10-03-2017 01:00 PM
  17. TripleOne's Avatar
    Largely for the notifications and fitness type tracking. I also use it, mostly though complications, to keep a tabs on the weather (currently feels like 90 and raining). In WatchOS 4 I also appreciate the heart rate tracker, I'm old enough that is something that is nice to have. I also like how it gives the "remote" while listening to music in iOS 4, very handy when wearing AirPods. Last, with the battery life I'm getting, I'm starting to use the watch to track my sleep.
    Thanks for sharing!
    I mainly use it for notifications and fitness as well.
    The activity rings are great. Being able to see the weather is a plus. And it works so well with the AirPods!
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    10-03-2017 04:18 PM
  18. fabio984's Avatar
    How do you track your sleep? Any app activated? Or just wear the watch?
    Like I said before, I’m using first gen.
    10-07-2017 03:43 PM
  19. mogelijk's Avatar
    How do you track your sleep? Any app activated? Or just wear the watch?
    Like I said before, I’m using first gen.
    I use an app. I've only been doing it about a week now. Currently I'm trying out Sleepmatic. I think I'll try Autosleep soon, to see how it compares, as it is one of the higher rated sleep apps.
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    10-07-2017 04:10 PM
  20. fabio984's Avatar
    I use an app. I've only been doing it about a week now. Currently I'm trying out Sleepmatic. I think I'll try Autosleep soon, to see how it compares, as it is one of the higher rated sleep apps.
    Never used anyone. Installing now auto sleep. If you used both, let me know what’s the best for you.
    10-19-2017 06:07 PM
  21. mogelijk's Avatar
    Never used anyone. Installing now auto sleep. If you used both, let me know what’s the best for you.
    They both have advantages. I think Sleepmatic has clearer graphics that are easier to read but AutoSleep seems to have a better setup and has more information, just you have to actually look at different areas to see it all. Also, AutoSleep initially reported poorly for me, I'm apparently a restless sleeper, so I had to manually adjust the sensitivity upward.
    fabio984 likes this.
    10-20-2017 01:43 AM
  22. Jude526's Avatar
    Something has happened and thought I should return it. Going thru an issue and things are going to be a bit tough. But it’s too late and I really really like this Watch. Just hate having a health issue and needing surgery.
    AllanRosen likes this.
    10-20-2017 09:37 PM
  23. TripleOne's Avatar
    Something has happened and thought I should return it. Going thru an issue and things are going to be a bit tough. But it’s too late and I really really like this Watch. Just hate having a health issue and needing surgery.
    I wish you the best recovery!
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    10-20-2017 09:39 PM
  24. Jude526's Avatar
    Thank you so much! See the specialist on the 26th. Surgery to follow 30th or 1st
    10-20-2017 09:42 PM
  25. Jude526's Avatar
    I am not going to let things stress me out. I love the watch and all will be ok
    AppleKarma and msm0511 like this.
    10-25-2017 10:58 PM
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