1. cuttheredwire's Avatar
    Smart TV security and privacy is a problem, and it's getting worse. Right now, the best thing you can do is buy a dumb TV and use an Apple TV with it. I have read that Apple didn't want get into the market since its over saturated and margins are thin, but no one is offering what Apple proves it does best: security and privacy.

    For those that think smart TVs are fine, I beg to differ:

    Roku TVs will eavesdrop on your shows to serve up ads
    https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/11/...-serve-up-ads/

    VIZIO Settlement: Smart TVs should not track your shows without your O.K. | Consumer Information
    https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/vi...ithout-your-ok

    Smart TV hack embeds attack code into broadcast signal—no access required | Ars Technica
    https://arstechnica.com/security/201...cess-required/

    Samsung’s Tizen is riddled with security flaws, amateurishly written | Ars Technica
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017...ishly-written/

    Smart TVs Are Stupid: Why You Don’t Really Want a Smart TV
    https://www.howtogeek.com/176392/sma...nt-a-smart-tv/

    I was on the market for a Roku TV (Amazon app!), but not after the "feature" to watch what I watch was added. It's opt in, but for how long? I'm not going to find out. I'm sticking with my dumb TV with an Apple TV combo.

    But for how long will a dumb TV even be an option? Is that what it would take for Apple to make a secure smart TV: it would be the only way?
    04-12-2017 01:34 AM
  2. robertk328's Avatar
    Why wouldn't the AppleTV suit the situation you're asking about? Use it with a "dumb" TV and be done. Better margins and more options as you can hook it to any TV size vs having to make a whole TV in various sizes. It's missing Amazon though ...
    04-12-2017 05:49 AM
  3. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    It's missing Amazon though ...
    AirPlay is your friend.
    04-12-2017 08:01 AM
  4. cuttheredwire's Avatar
    Why wouldn't the AppleTV suit the situation you're asking about? Use it with a "dumb" TV and be done. Better margins and more options as you can hook it to any TV size vs having to make a whole TV in various sizes. It's missing Amazon though ...
    As pointed out in the 3rd article, smart TVs can be hacked *over broadcast signals* alone. Eventually, buying a dumb TV may be like buying a CRT TV. At which point, it's insecure just to have the thing turned on.

    But if that happened to an Apple TV, you would be reading about it in patch notes.

    Besides that, I isn't a good experience. You can only control power and volume on the TV. You can't control channels, select other inpits, adjust the picture, etc.
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    04-12-2017 11:55 AM
  5. cuttheredwire's Avatar
    AirPlay is your friend.
    That's what we use, but it would be a better experience to have a native app. That's on Amazon. :/

    It was part of Ruko's apeal, but not enough to sacrifice my privacy.
    Rob Phillips likes this.
    04-12-2017 12:10 PM
  6. robertk328's Avatar
    Besides that, I isn't a good experience. You can only control power and volume on the TV. You can't control channels, select other inpits, adjust the picture, etc.
    Good points. Thanks!
    04-12-2017 01:30 PM
  7. kataran's Avatar
    Only a select few really use a SmartTV to its potential. My Parents have a Samsung smartTV and don't even use any of its features. They have an Apple TV that's simple to use so it's there go to for Netflix and YouTube
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    04-12-2017 01:43 PM
  8. cuttheredwire's Avatar
    Only a select few really use a SmartTV to its potential. My Parents have a Samsung smartTV and don't even use any of its features. They have an Apple TV that's simple to use so it's there go to for Netflix and YouTube
    Third article: "It worked against two fully updated TV models made by Samsung."

    That article is about an over the air vulnerability. You turn in the TV and your vulnerable. What you use (or don't use) a smart TV for doesn't make you invulnerable.
    04-12-2017 11:13 PM

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