1. techieTroy's Avatar
    Can I get iMore minus the Rene Ritchie posts?

    I know that sounds harsh, which is so not my style or personality. But I consistently recognize Rene Ritchie posts by the titles alone. I follow a crazy number of mobile tech news, blogs, YouTube channels, and podcasts. Rene consistency tops the list of agenda-driven, highly biased, definitely not objective, fanboy writings. I don't appreciate that approach in politics or technology or, well, anything except maybe charity efforts.

    This isn't intended to be personal, but simply my sincere feeling as a reader and fellow mobile tech enthusiast. No doubt Rene is a fantastic guy, and I know he wouldn't be in his role without notable accomplishment. And he is certainly passionate about Apple products, which I can appreciate -- they're amazing in quality and user experience. But I prefer to make my own judgements, based on information, not advertising or propaganda. Nothing is always perfect and the best in every way for ever and ever and always will be. Not even beloved Apple.

    I want relevant information. I want objective comparisons. I want balanced reviews. I want to enjoy great articles/posts about the mobile tech I'm so passionate about by people who are passionate but tempered with reality, who endeavor to inform and inspire me not force their bias on me.

    I've read so, so many responses to Rene's articles by Apple fans who are highly annoyed by what often seems like sponsored Apple promotions with lame disguises. So many mobile tech and Apple enthusiasts do not appreciate that. It's not what we're coming to iMore for. It's not why I've read iMore for years...since before it was iMore.

    I'm not writing this to gripe. My point is not to bash Rene. However, I reached a point today because of my frustration with his articles that I've decided not to follow iMore anyMore. I'm just too tired of it, and for me it's now outweighed the great writing others do.

    I realized making that decision that you might care to know that it is that big of a deal.
    Last edited by techieTroy; 03-21-2017 at 12:55 AM.
    03-20-2017 11:09 PM
  2. nikkisharif's Avatar
    I'm sorry you've decided not to follow iMore any longer. There is a section in the forums called Ask Rene & hopefully you'll be able to have a discussion with him. I think he's a great writer but I don't agree with everything he says. I make my own conclusions and just take articles I read as informational. Again, please feel free to direct questions his way in the mentioned thread. Here's a link

    https://forums.imore.com/ask-rene/
    03-21-2017 08:56 AM
  3. Sherry_B's Avatar
    Can I get iMore minus the Rene Ritchie posts?

    I want relevant information. I want objective comparisons. I want balanced reviews. I want to enjoy great articles/posts about the mobile tech I'm so passionate about by people who are passionate but tempered with reality, who endeavor to inform and inspire me not force their bias on me.
    Agreed. 100+%.
    03-21-2017 10:54 AM
  4. Quis89's Avatar
    Sad to hear that you've chosen not to follow iMore anymore. I have to be honest, I've stopped reading the posts on the main iMore page for the most part. iMore seems to have shifted focus to product reviews/advertisements and how-to tutorials. Neither of which I have a huge interest in. I've started going to other websites for my Apple News and editorial/opinion pieces. But the iMore community is great. So maybe you'll find enjoyment in the forums and in discussions with other members.

    You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I feel you expressed it very respectfully as well, which is great. We all won't agree with everyone. And that is ok.

    I'd agree with Nikkisharif's recommendation. Maybe start a discussion in the "Ask Rene" forum to get a better understanding of his writing style and what sways his opinions in one way or another.
    03-21-2017 11:27 AM
  5. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    .....Rene consistency tops the list of agenda-driven, highly biased, definitely not objective, fanboy writings......
    Like the rest of us, Rene is not perfect. If anything, he gets a bad rap for trying to bring understanding and clarity to something Apple has done, is doing or may do. Sometimes, people reject understanding or clarity and simply want to be in disagreement for reasons that makes sense to them, and that's fine. In no way am I throwing you in that group, and I hope you don't take it that way. I'm just saying that you calling Rene "highly biased and "definitely not objective" is a bit much.
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 03-21-2017 at 08:08 PM.
    03-21-2017 05:48 PM
  6. pkcable's Avatar
    I moved this thread out of Ask a Question. This thread is MUCH more like Site Feedback than a question with a definitive answer.
    03-21-2017 11:48 PM
  7. Garz's Avatar
    I want relevant information. I want objective comparisons. I want balanced reviews. I want to enjoy great articles/posts about the mobile tech I'm so passionate about by people who are passionate but tempered with reality, who endeavor to inform and inspire me not force their bias on me.

    I've read so, so many responses to Rene's articles by Apple fans who are highly annoyed by what often seems like sponsored Apple promotions with lame disguises. So many mobile tech and Apple enthusiasts do not appreciate that. It's not what we're coming to iMore for. It's not why I've read iMore for years...since before it was iMore.
    These two paragraphs, I agree. I visit iMore for the forums. I haven't read the blogs here in a long time. I don't appreciate one sided articles so I chose to read Apple news elsewhere. Just my opinion but I agree with much of the OP. I'm not writing this to be mean. Just giving honest feedback and that the OP isn't the only one who thinks that way.
    03-22-2017 12:07 AM
  8. pkcable's Avatar
    I'm probably a little bias about this myself being the Q&A person and all, BUT I like all the help guides that iMore provides as well as the balance of other content. YES I could do a bit less with the Pokemon Go, BUT I do get that a certain crowd likes those blogs. Just about EVERY blogger or tech reviewer or any reviewer for that matter has probably been accused of having a bias or a slant at one time or another. We are all human after all. Rene has opinions and he gives them. He can be a bit of an Apple fan boy at times, BUT I've seen him point out the flaws in the past too! I think he's as balanced as most. I'm not going to bring up anyone else BUT I could cite other examples of bloggers or sites that have a MUCH more pro Apple slant than iMore. And besides iMore IS an Apple fan site after all! That being said they have been trying to expand their horizon's a bit lately and I don't think that's a bad thing. You can always just skip over the blogs you don't wish to read. Like I'm skipping over the Pokemon Go stuff, BUT I am reading the Nintendo Switch stuff!

    Anyways just had to put in my 2 cents. It's just my opinion though, feel free to skip right over it and/or have a different one, THAT is what a forum is all about!
    03-22-2017 09:10 AM
  9. selovell's Avatar
    I take the blogs as they are and enjoy reading them for a perspective. I realize the writer has a particular viewpoint but I appreciate the perspective. I review different sites for Apple info and do not rely on just iMore.

    Reading the "how to's", I use them as a refresher when I need a quick review on how to do something. And, they are useful for people new to the ecosystem.
    03-22-2017 09:58 AM
  10. Rene Ritchie's Avatar
    Sincere question: what's biased or factually inaccurate about my writing? I get that we might have subjectively different personal opinions on a variety of topics, but as long as they're not objectively false, I think different opinions are a good thing. I know I learn a ton from them.

    Can you give me some specific examples?

    I don't find "fanboy" helpful because more often than not it just kills discussion by saying "i hate you for no specific reason i can explain so I'll just attack you personally."

    I appreciate the chance to learn and improve. I want to get things right. (Though I realize that won't always make everyone happy.)

    (FYI: I'd get way more clicks for just mindlessly hate raging on Apple like many bloggers do. I prefer to try and explain the reasons for why Apple is doing something. Even if I disagree with that reason, I'd rather dislike it in an informed way then a knee-jerk reactionary way — and often factually inaccurate way. I care deeply, incredibly deeply, about our readers and always want to give them the absolute best information available anywhere. That's why I do this.)
    03-22-2017 10:43 AM
  11. John Yester's Avatar
    Based on other sites, it's just that "Apple news" and that only. In my opinion Rene and other writers try to tie in a personal approach to each writing they present. It give a more up close view on things rather then the general media write ups. I can find that else where if I want to, but I do honestly look at his and others articles from time to time and have gained knowledge and insight from certain topics, and some maybe not so much, because it didn't interest me at the time. But that doesn't make it wrong.

    As mentioned above it won't make everyone happy from time to time but there is a lot of choices to read from. Not that iMore should copy what others are doing to remove that choice from readers, but I am very sure almost if not all of the writers including Rene read other sites.

    iMore and Rene set themselves apart from everyone else and I am glad with the end result, It could have some more in depth techie write ups but most of the time they do have that, it's just not constant. The other sites throughout pretty much all link to each other or use each other article to provide a spot on the page. iMore make it from scratch but maybe briefly mentioning a site every 20 articles.

    I for one give any writers on Mobile Nations, let alone Rene a pat on the back it's a lot of work as I did some for Crackberry back in the day, iMore could have sucked years ago, it could have bombed like some sites have came and gone throughout the internets, but they chugged along, gave person reviews in articles and detailed information with out fluff and still one of the best camera How to articles out there.

    Keep up the good work!
    03-22-2017 12:40 PM

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