1. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    Currently, a lot of the posts( on some threads it is just this, one after another) made on iMore read a lot like an entry to win a competition where you have to describe 'why you think Apple is great in 20 words or less' to win something. This is not going to encourage debate.

    How can users be encouraged to make less clichd responses, and hopefully deliver a more interesting, popular, lively forum?

    Personally, I would remove the ability to like/ dislike posts, one of my bugbears on any forum in honesty. The internet should not be a personality contest, or if it is going to be, then there should be a special cordoned-off area for it, called Facebook.

    Is that even possible? May be the feature is baked-in to whatever software people are using to create the sites.

    Why don't you try to come up with a better idea.

    ps. 'Apple is great because I like to use their stuff', is not 'an idea', please keep those posts on the threads set aside for that purpose.
    Last edited by BBFunGuy; 04-05-2014 at 11:34 AM. Reason: Speeling
    04-05-2014 11:33 AM
  2. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Perhaps if the questions are more specific themselves higher quality answers can be given, for example, 'Can you list at least three things about iOS devices that makes you willing to pay more for them than equally or even lower priced competiton?'

    via that gPad 📱
    04-05-2014 12:23 PM
  3. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Maybe if the commenters posted more thought provoking replies to engage others in a similar manner, that could help.
    04-05-2014 06:58 PM
  4. kataran's Avatar
    If your viewing iMore under unread posts you will end up seeing everything and not what your looking for. Certain members only subscribe to specific categories of interest to them Avoiding unwanted threads

    The posts your referring to as unwanted end up getting hits so they are of interest to some members so to exclude them would not be fair to them

    As for the like and thanks option it's a uniform addition to all the forums I ever partaked in and has it's purpose it allows a person to show another members post had some type of impact on them without having to post that fact. Imagine having to scroll past posts like that's cool over and over just to read a meaningful reply


    iMore Ambassador -iPhone 5s
    04-05-2014 07:18 PM
  5. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Currently, a lot of the posts( on some threads it is just this, one after another) made on iMore read a lot like an entry to win a competition where you have to describe 'why you think Apple is great in 20 words or less' to win something. This is not going to encourage debate.
    While I agree to a point, I still think that certain threads do encourage debate more than others. I also think that trying to encourage debate is not a bad thing.

    How can users be encouraged to make less clichd responses, and hopefully deliver a more interesting, popular, lively forum?
    By being honest. Still, you seem to be telling us what you like and dislike as if everyone feels this way. What may be a clichd response to you could be just the response others are looking for.

    Personally, I would remove the ability to like/ dislike posts, one of my bugbears on any forum in honesty.
    Personally, I would keep the ability to "Like" and "Thank" because it gives members a single click avenue to express their appreciation.
    The internet should not be a personality contest, or if it is going to be, then there should be a special cordoned-off area for it, called Facebook.
    Who are you to say what should and should not be? Shouldn't the rest of us who use the internet also have a say in how things should be run?

    Is that even possible? May be the feature is baked-in to whatever software people are using to create the sites.


    Why don't you try to come up with a better idea.
    The staff at iMore and the rest of Mobile Nations will always try to make coming to these sites as enjoyable and as informative as we possibly can. Sometimes it takes members such as yourself to offer up suggestions, and believe me, we're receptive and appreciative of you and all the members who frequent the Mobile Nations sites. Thank you.

    ps. 'Apple is great because I like to use their stuff', is not 'an idea', please keep those posts on the threads set aside for that purpose.
    No arguments here.......Anyway, thank you for your comments and suggestions. Take care.
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 04-06-2014 at 08:52 AM.
    04-05-2014 07:52 PM
  6. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    Message from iMore moderator:

    You have incurred an infraction for a lame post, 'that's cool'. The iMore forum is not some duck-pond where we all sit around going quack-quack. Further infractions will result in posting rights being revoked.

    The iMore team.
    04-06-2014 11:41 AM
  7. Speedygi's Avatar
    Coming up with intelligent replies to intelligent posts take two or more to play a part, and more often than not the level of quality would still be dependent on the right mix of minds tackling the topic. Some people are more creative than others, and that may affect where any given discussion will go.

    I don't think anyone can control or manufacture such quality of postings here but we can certainly strive to produce more outward-looking, verbal and intellectual threads and posts moving forward.
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    04-06-2014 12:25 PM
  8. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Message from iMore moderator:

    You have incurred an infraction for a lame post, 'that's cool'. The iMore forum is not some duck-pond where we all sit around going quack-quack. Further infractions will result in posting rights being revoked.

    The iMore team.
    (Laughing)...good one...
    04-06-2014 12:31 PM
  9. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Message from iMore moderator:

    You have incurred an infraction for a lame post, 'that's cool'. The iMore forum is not some duck-pond where we all sit around going quack-quack. Further infractions will result in posting rights being revoked.

    The iMore team.
    That is funny, but I was scared for you. I can imagine another Mobile Nations forum giving you an infraction for impersonating a moderator and for openly displaying a sense of humor. Be careful.


    Sent from my ME308LL/A ⚫️
    04-06-2014 12:34 PM
  10. SwitchBeach's Avatar
    Currently, a lot of the posts( on some threads it is just this, one after another) made on iMore read a lot like an entry to win a competition where you have to describe 'why you think Apple is great in 20 words or less' to win something. This is not going to encourage debate.
    Why do posts need to "encourage debate"? Can't there be discussions by themselves?

    How can users be encouraged to make less clichd responses, and hopefully deliver a more interesting, popular, lively forum?
    Under whose definition? The discussions already are interesting or people would not be here.
    04-06-2014 12:44 PM
  11. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I see too many similar threads about the same issues or topics.


    Sent from from my iPhone 5
    04-06-2014 12:52 PM
  12. kataran's Avatar
    I see too many similar threads about the same issues or topics.


    Sent from from my iPhone 5
    Most new members don't search the forums for what they need they just write out a post for help. We could just point them to the Answer but In iMore we try and display a personal interest in a members immediate problem not just brush them off. No one is asking anyone to go out of there way to help anyone if you read it before just move on


    iMore Ambassador -iPhone 5s
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    04-06-2014 04:37 PM
  13. kataran's Avatar
    Message from iMore moderator:

    You have incurred an infraction for a lame post, 'that's cool'. The iMore forum is not some duck-pond where we all sit around going quack-quack. Further infractions will result in posting rights being revoked.

    The iMore team.
    I see your game Quote Fun Guy

    You dislike meaningless posts but create one of your own.

    I haven't read a meaningful thing from you yet not even a sign you really care at all about this Forum

    So I'm gonna ignore your posts for now on as it's my and all our rights here of IMore

    Have a great Day!


    iMore Ambassador -iPhone 5s
    04-06-2014 04:42 PM
  14. anon4757448's Avatar
    I see your game Quote Fun Guy

    You dislike meaningless posts but create one of your own.

    I haven't read a meaningful thing from you yet not even a sign you really care at all about this Forum

    So I'm gonna ignore your posts for now on as it's my and all our rights here of IMore

    Have a great Day!


    iMore Ambassador -iPhone 5s
    Oops I just liked and thanked your post! I think I'm one if the people he's talking about! LOL


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    04-06-2014 05:10 PM
  15. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Like and thank all the things?

    Hey look! I'm on a Windows Phone!
    04-06-2014 05:12 PM
  16. James Falconer's Avatar
    Great discussion here folks, love it. Thought I'd pop in here quick...

    First step to encouraging more quality posts?... we need to take it upon ourselves to do just that! Set the example, write quality and well thought out posts, and give them proper/descriptive titles. This goes a long way.

    Thought I'd insert this here for now... keep discussing, this is the kind of passion and feedback we need to take the iMore forums to the next level!!! Can't do it without your help!
    04-07-2014 08:19 AM
  17. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    I see your game “Quote” Fun Guy

    You dislike meaningless posts but create one of your own.

    I haven't read a meaningful thing from you yet not even a sign you really care at all about this Forum

    So I'm gonna ignore your posts for now on as it's my and all our rights here of IMore

    Have a great Day!


    iMore Ambassador -iPhone 5s
    I post because I care! Not sure how to signal you, but do read your posts. It would be much easier to avoid my musings if there were more posts...

    Context is key, in some circumstances, the more meaningless, the better.

    Thanks for bringing up ignoring people, good idea. I will post a link here later showing people how it is possible to so using the forum tools, for anyone who finds reading a name, then moving their eyes down to the next name without reading a post too difficult.
    04-07-2014 10:08 AM
  18. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    Currently, a lot of the posts( on some threads it is just this, one after another) made on iMore read a lot like an entry to win a competition where you have to describe 'why you think Apple is great in 20 words or less' to win something. This is not going to encourage debate.

    How can users be encouraged to make less clichd responses, and hopefully deliver a more interesting, popular, lively forum?

    Personally, I would remove the ability to like/ dislike posts, one of my bugbears on any forum in honesty. The internet should not be a personality contest, or if it is going to be, then there should be a special cordoned-off area for it, called Facebook.

    Is that even possible? May be the feature is baked-in to whatever software people are using to create the sites.

    Why don't you try to come up with a better idea.

    ps. 'Apple is great because I like to use their stuff', is not 'an idea', please keep those posts on the threads set aside for that purpose.
    I post because I care! Not sure how to signal you, but do read your posts. It would be much easier to avoid my musings if there were more posts...

    Context is key, in some circumstances, the more meaningless, the better.

    Thanks for bringing up ignoring people, good idea. I will post a link here later showing people how it is possible to so using the forum tools, for anyone who finds reading a name, then moving their eyes down to the next name without reading a post too difficult.
    I don't want to get to deep into this because there have been some very good discussion here whether you know it or not. I am curious to know what stuck you to bring this on like this?
    04-07-2014 02:33 PM
  19. cyberpaw's Avatar
    I prefer a little repetition here and there, especially since there are newbies joining all the time. What they do on a few other forums is to flame people, tell them to use the "search" and list a bunch of links to look up, even when it was a very simple question that could have been answered with a five second polite reply.


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    04-07-2014 03:15 PM
  20. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    I prefer a little repetition here and there, especially since there are newbies joining all the time. What they do on a few other forums is to flame people, tell them to use the "search" and list a bunch of links to look up, even when it was a very simple question that could have been answered with a five second polite reply.


    Sent from my iPad using iMore Forums mobile app
    With no disrespect to anybody who answered this thread in an honest fashion on how they felt not just about the OPs post but everyone else this is IMO the most meaningfully said comment. The reason is and i have said this before....We tend to not ever tell anybody to 'SEARCH' for anything when like stated, Even a 5 sec. polite reply goes way further than the other word 'SEARCH'.
    Whoever you are - Thank you for your post here. Perfect.
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    04-07-2014 07:05 PM
  21. BBFunGuy's Avatar
    My perception of the MobileNations being less due to the balance of use being focussed so far from iMore. There was MN roundup this week, and the hot thread for iMore was only 28,and that may have pushed me over the edge.
    04-08-2014 06:41 AM
  22. James Falconer's Avatar
    One 'hot thread' mention in our Community Update does not paint the whole picture. The fact of the matter is we have a passionate, growing group of volunteers here at iMore... and the membership is awesome. We've seen steady growth here in the iMore forums the past few months, and if we all work together some real good things are going to happen. It's on us to keep pushing forward, keep posting great stuff and welcoming new members to the fun... while the iMore forums aren't as busy as some of the other Mobile Nations forums YET... good things are coming.
    04-08-2014 08:18 AM
  23. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    One 'hot thread' mention in our Community Update does not paint the whole picture. The fact of the matter is we have a passionate, growing group of volunteers here at iMore... and the membership is awesome. We've seen steady growth here in the iMore forums the past few months, and if we all work together some real good things are going to happen. It's on us to keep pushing forward, keep posting great stuff and welcoming new members to the fun... while the iMore forums aren't as busy as some of the other Mobile Nations forums YET... good things are coming.
    He is of course referring to my post - Asked: Why do Apple Computers cost so much more than PCs? At the time you wrote the article (Community Update) James, there were 28 very good responses so even though there might have only been 28, The content of those posts were well worth reading what others opinions are and that is the main reason we work hard to place these posts for members to have something to talk about.

    Also nobody here ever said that a member could not start his own post to get conversation going. Thank you. James is right. Good things are going to happen.
    04-08-2014 09:37 AM
  24. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I think what is also being lost here is that each Mobile Nations site has its own culture, and attempts to change the culture by trying to make it like another often fails. Apple does not have a boatload of products, and the refresh is usually annually. Yet, iMore is swamped with threads and posts seeking advice prior to, during, and after a product launch, an iOS update, and even when a new jailbreak is available. Those of us who are considered "regulars" here go out of our way to help anyone seeking assistance. We love our Apple products and services, and we want everyone else who has the same products and uses the same services to enjoy them as much as we do. That is the culture here at iMore. Period. Now that members of Mobile Nations can venture into other sections using the same login credentials, many jump from site to site. Some seek information because they are looking to purchase a non-Apple product. It doesn't mean they've abandoned iMore or anything. They are merely using the Mobile Nations sites to their advantage. As for quality posts, if it helped at least one person, it's safe to assume the quality of it to that particular person was quite high. The rush to generate volume can sometime overshadow the quality that already exists. Volume does not automatically equate to success. Ask any business with a large volume of products that aren't being moved from the shelves in sales. Anyway, that's my 2 cents...
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 04-08-2014 at 11:30 AM.
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    04-08-2014 10:26 AM
  25. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    Excellent addition to your personal opinion. Very good job.
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    04-08-2014 11:25 AM

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