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how sad... doesn't seem like the phones worth it to me

that helio device looks pretty sweet but I haven't heard much about that company

Every phone carrier is having that fear regardless if they are a smartphone developer. I still think apple is going to lose out in the end though... I think people will be over all disapointed in this version of the iphone.

I think for the most part especially in this forum that surur only started bashing when ever archie spat out his purely false information. I find him personally to be funny but still I haven't really seen him say anything really flamming that didn't need to be said. Archie is the biggest fanboy...

People come here not just because they are bored and have nothing better to do like some of us :) but people come here to learn information about a product that might help in their decision to buy. If they come here and see the false information that Archie is giving out then they might go out...

Archie you are completely wrong in almost every statment you make. surur and I both will keep what we are already happy with and not go with the shinny new exterior with the same old funtionality. have fun blowing all your money on a sub par product :) haha I mean common ... people even posted...

Like I said all Apple is doing is marketing a pretty package for the people who will really say " Aint it perty " lol .... do you take food stamps?

36. An external speaker (for speakerphone functionality AND iPod use) that doesn't get covered up when you lay it down like every other phone on the market. Thank you. thats exactly what I meant surur thanks :) and thats the number in which archie said his statement which I was proving wrong.

nope not what I was saying... all I meant is that it has its speakers on the sides. and btw that saying doesn't have an ed on the end of whack. :crazy:

btw my wifes old a920 had the speakers on the side that while playing music you lay it down and hear just fine. There is nothing revolutionary about a product that has features other phones already have.. just because you take a product and spit shine it with a look that makes idiots go ' oooh...

I love when people get so hooked on a product that pulling "facts out of thin air" like statements like this "Here's my list of positives that no other phone has which is justification for me in sacrificing a couple of features" get just ripped apart. I don't know why people can't just sit back...

ROTFLMAO classic :D

Thats what im saying!! what features does the iphone have that the treo doesn't? You haven't personally used this phone you don't really know how crappy its going to be. That commercial they have showing You Tube is a joke... are you kidding me??? You Tube over EDGE?? no way in hell it would...

The iphone is not innovative at all... whats innovative about having you tube (which all treo's can already use) or an mp3 player on board (have a 4Gb chip in mine already for way less then the iphone costs) or an all touch screen (which HTC has already made) there isn't anything innovative...