sanibel
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1. Either the US sides with the Geneva Conventions, or it doesn't.
2. I find John McCain's opinion very interesting.
2. I find John McCain's opinion very interesting.
I agree. I'm a Christian, but I think it's hypocritical to pull up parts of the bible that benefit ones point of view, while ignoring others. If the bible is true, and Gods word, than all of the New Testament has to be taken seriously. Based on Scatabrains replies in other threads, they do not take the whole New Testament seriously.
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Kill or be killed. What other groups have that same motto?
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Being for peace is all I want. I see nothing wrong with taking inspiration where it can be found. Jesus saying turn the other cheek is how we should act NOT eye for an eye as Old Testament said.
And if I can marvel at the creation and care for my fellow man using science and therefore don't feel compelled to take 7 days literally, it does not make me a hypocrite. I may not be a good standing member of your church as your church would require but my views are very clear and do not contradict.
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And please point me to where in the New Testament it says torture is okay.
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I'm just saying that the government and society don't care about what the bible says.
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Not quite true. It will take away future anger.
You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Mt 5:38–39, NRSV)
And rightfully so.
And please point me to where in the New Testament it says torture is okay.
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Now we’ll consider the use of torture in relation to governmental policy. We know that God has appointed civil governments and charged them with maintaining justice in this world (Romans 13:1-5). “For [the ruler] is God's servant to do you good . . . an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer” (verse 4). Elsewhere, God calls judges and magistrates “gods”; that is, their authority to provide justice comes from God Himself (Psalm 82:1-4). If they fail in their duty, they will themselves be judged by the Lord, the Judge of all (verses 7-8).
So government bears the responsibility to protect the good and punish the evil. What methods may it employ in carrying out that responsibility? Beyond the endorsement of capital punishment (Romans 13:4; Genesis 9:6), the Bible does not say. The Bible neither condemns nor condones a government’s use of torture.
Read more: What does the Bible say about torture?
Since when does our government adhere to the bible, let alone society. Are you kidding me? Point me to where the New Testament says abortion or homosexuality is ok. Our government and society don't give a rip what the bible says. And I thought you from the left are trying to free the government and our public education system from religion?
I don't want to start a debate about those two hot topics. I'm just saying that the government and society don't care about what the bible says.
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You guys are scary.
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Yes.
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Interesting bit of info that I learned today...might interest you to read as well...
Interesting bit of info that I learned today...might interest you to read as well...
Scary, what?s more scary is a person who will let their family members die and not be for trying to do anything about it but talk.
" Originally Posted by pappy53"
So, if your family was in terrorists' hands, and torture was the ONLY method for safe recovery, you are saying that you would let them die? Wow!
Interesting bit of info that I learned today...might interest you to read as well...
Regardless of whether this is true or not, it is, as TechEater has pointed out, a bit too convenient to pick and choose the parts of the book you want to believe. You can rip the page out of the book, but it doesn?t change the fact that the book states it.
Thats what having principles is all about.
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