Android?!

**sprocket2107** · 10-26-2011, 10:45 PM

I was reading an article on the AndroidCentral page today about the recent patent over the lockscreen. After owning an android phone for a little over a year I got really into the android platform. I would always be in the forums and stuff and reading about everything and very rarely would I come across someone who hated Apple. Now after this recent post on AndroidCentral I saw a lot of comments bashing Apple saw that iPhones are just toys and only 5 years old use them and how simple they are to use. I just recently got my iPhone and wasn't yet a true fan of all things Apple. I had to hold everything in with my comments because I knew that if I posted something about liking Apple that I would get flamed and be completely outnumbered. Now I know that I will get a more biased answer here but I feel as if the Apple community is more level headed when it comes to all things smartphones and what not. What are your opinions on the whole Apple patent victory and also how do you guys/gals feel about Android/BlackBerry/Windows etc...? Me, I'm obviously now more of an Apple fanboy than ever. I have a Mac, iPod classic, iPad and now iPhone. I loved my Android but iOS just works, no matter what device. Android fanboys can rag on it all they want but I don't need to root my device to get it to work. It may not have the amazing specs of these top of the line android phones but it runs so much smoother and faster than any of these Android phones. I say, let them have their rooting and overclocking and what not but its not stable. The Android OS just isn't as elegant and defined as iOS and the iPhone hasn't been around for that long.

**BLiNK** · 10-26-2011, 11:00 PM

agreed!

**Alli** · 10-27-2011, 05:43 AM

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. But it's still imitation. I am not an Apple fangirl, but the sooner everyone admits that prior the iPhone there were no black slab phones and that all others are imitations....the better off everyone will be.

No matter how you dress up an Android or Windows 7 phone, when you see them from across the room, you still think the owner is holding an iPhone.

**Kylazin** · 10-27-2011, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Alli

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. But it's still imitation. I am not an Apple fangirl, but the sooner everyone admits that prior the iPhone there were no black slab phones and that all others are imitations....the better off everyone will be.

No matter how you dress up an Android or Windows 7 phone, when you see them from across the room, you still think the owner is holding an iPhone.

Seriously? Do you honestly think there were no candybar shaped phones before the iPhone? The only difference is this has no keyboard and is a bit wider. What the hell shape should phones be? Square? Triangular?

Apple is a company who took and still takes advantage of a broken patent system. Other phones use the functional shape, which happens to be the same shape as the iPhone. I love my iPhone, but to think that a phone that uses the same shape is imitating is just ignorant.

**chris3896** · 10-27-2011, 07:33 AM

I've had all platforms so I'm a pretty fair and balanced (right Fox News?) guy. I just came from a Blackberry and an android before that. Sometimes I wish there were more options in general overall. I can't deny that everything works right on iOS but I really never had the problems that most other people has with either Blackberry or Android. Blackberry app store was atrocious but other than that it served its purpose. Android was very open and sometimes you get some crap applications but I could customize whatever and I liked that. I am now on the 4S and like it overall but sometimes the restrictions on certain things bother me but ironically if I want everything to "work" I have to jailbreak the phone. Hopefully a jailbreak comes out soon. A few tweaks and I will be completely happy. Although I will say Google integration isn't the best on here (calendar doesn't update correctly and push email isn't as fast as I am used to) but I guess I'm biased based on my crackberry.

**Matchoo** · 10-27-2011, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by chris3896

I've had all platforms so I'm a pretty fair and balanced (right Fox News?) guy. I just came from a Blackberry and an android before that. Sometimes I wish there were more options in general overall. I can't deny that everything works right on iOS but I really never had the problems that most other people has with either Blackberry or Android. Blackberry app store was atrocious but other than that it served its purpose. Android was very open and sometimes you get some crap applications but I could customize whatever and I liked that. I am now on the 4S and like it overall but sometimes the restrictions on certain things bother me but ironically if I want everything to "work" I have to jailbreak the phone. Hopefully a jailbreak comes out soon. A few tweaks and I will be completely happy. Although I will say Google integration isn't the best on here (calendar doesn't update correctly and push email isn't as fast as I am used to) but I guess I'm biased based on my crackberry.

How is the email push not as fast? I get my emails quicker on my iphone than on my Gmail (sometimes) most of the time it's the same.

**kjjb0204** · 10-27-2011, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Alli

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. But it's still imitation. I am not an Apple fangirl, but the sooner everyone admits that prior the iPhone there were no black slab phones and that all others are imitations....the better off everyone will be.

No matter how you dress up an Android or Windows 7 phone, when you see them from across the room, you still think the owner is holding an iPhone.

Um, google this - IBM Simon. Very first black slab touch screen phone. Many others between that and the iPhone. Everyone will be better off once people can admit that the iPhone isn't god's gift to cellular.

**robes1** · 10-27-2011, 09:17 AM

I've had Droids and other Android phones, and I tried the Pre for a while. I actually liked WebOS but I had an iPhone at the same time and the Pre's form factor was something that I grew to hate. All they needed was the right phone to put it on and WebOS would have been a much larger success. WP Mango is beautiful to me. If there were no iPhone then I would probably be waiting for a Focus S right now. But at the same time you have to wonder if the Windows Mobile platform would have evolved to where it is now I the iPhone hadn't come along. Would there have even been a WebOS? Android would definitely not exist without the iPhone to copy so much of what it is from. The only thing that I really loved about my Android phones was the huge screens. But the resolution sucked and the lag was something that I could never get used to. And the constant force closes. I found xda-developers and started rooting and trying different ROMS but it was never what I knew that I could get with the iPhone. The cameras had 8 megapixels and the pictures looked terrible next to my iPhone 4 pics. The batteries lasted 3 hours do I had to have a spare charging at all times. I would always look at the apps and wonder why they didn't care how they looked. I have up and sold them all. I'm happy with Apple. Every now and then I just like to see what the other guys are yelling about. But it's always just another lag slab. I would consider WP if not for iTunes. Especially with Nokia showing of some slick looking hardware. But you really can't beat the ecosystem. It's the best that there is.

**noaim** · 10-27-2011, 01:14 PM

I love apple products which is why I use them but I am a very open minded person.. I have owned many blackberrys and even a nexus one android phone so I believe im fair in giving everything a shot. I dont bash the other phones because I believe competition is good.

lets face it though without iphone there would be no android

**Dark_Blu** · 10-27-2011, 03:05 PM

I use to rag on Apple prior to using the devices, but it all changed for me when I visited a Verizon Store and tried out an iPhone. I found that everything just worked, the interface was fluid, there was no lag and apparently no memory leak. I didn't need to root it, wipe it clean to stop auto soft reboots and didn't have to contend with any lag. And that was an iPhone 4. In comparison, my EVO had a bigger screen, but I had to get an extended battery to make it through a day, and the Gingerbread update brought bugs- instability, lag, and a memory leak that still hasn't and never will be resolved.

I decided to make the jump when it became clear that the iPhone 4 and 4S were coming to Sprint. Got a White 32GB 4S on launch day at my local Apple store. Have not had one single problem with the phone. The battery life outclasses the standard battery on my EVO. There is no lag. There is no memory leak. It just works. I have the Applications I need and then some, and all are awesome quality. Just for laughs, I wiped my EVO clean with a factory reset. Still can't get my e-mail address out of it. Also tried watching some flash videos and there is so much stutter, it's ridiculous. Perhaps Honeycomb or ICS works better than Gingerbread. All I can tell you for a fact that Gingerbread is a crippled dog running on three legs on wiz bang hardware and that just doesn't cut it for me. Apple does more with less and achieves a higher level of consistent performance and high quality with their hardware, OS, and apps. It's just a better deal all around.

**noaim** · 10-27-2011, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by DARK_BLU

I use to rag on Apple prior to using the devices, but it all changed for me when I visited a Verizon Store and tried out an iPhone. I found that everything just worked, the interface was fluid, there was no lag and apparently no memory leak. I didn't need to root it, wipe it clean to stop auto soft reboots and didn't have to contend with any lag. And that was an iPhone 4. In comparison, my EVO had a bigger screen, but I had to get an extended battery to make it through a day, and the Gingerbread update brought bugs- instability, lag, and a memory leak that still hasn't and never will be resolved.

I decided to make the jump when it became clear that the iPhone 4 and 4S were coming to Sprint. Got a White 32GB 4S on launch day at my local Apple store. Have not had one single problem with the phone. The battery life outclasses the standard battery on my EVO. There is no lag. There is no memory leak. It just works. I have the Applications I need and then some, and all are awesome quality. Just for laughs, I wiped my EVO clean with a factory reset. Still can't get my e-mail address out of it. Also tried watching some flash videos and there is so much stutter, it's ridiculous. Perhaps Honeycomb or ICS works better than Gingerbread. All I can tell you for a fact that Gingerbread is a crippled dog running on three legs on wiz bang hardware and that just doesn't cut it for me. Apple does more with less and achieves a higher level of consistent performance and high quality with their hardware, OS, and apps. It's just a better deal all around.

The evo was hyped up as this great 4g phone why did htc think that 4 hours of battery life was a good idea..

dont get me wrong there is some android phones that are fine but the evo in my opinion was one of the most overhyped that didnt work well.. Both my sister and brother in law have one and they are both massively disappointed in the battery life of the thing

**_heatherly** · 10-27-2011, 03:24 PM

I'm not one to "bash" other phones. I don't like to give opinion about other devices I have not used. I've never used an Android or Windows 7 phone, all I can tell you about them is that they look cheap and ugly to me, which is fine for me to say because "ugly" is relative to whoever is using the word. I've never held an Android or played with the OS and never will because I think they look cheap.

I've had two BBs (8100 and 9800) and now two iPhones (3GS and 4S). I don't consider myself a "fangirl" to either of them. I still like BlackBerry, but they are falling behind. To me, I find iPhone to be superior in almost every function. But it depends on the person's needs. Not everyone needs the same thing out of a smartphone.

I don't think it's right that people are called "trolls" because they have a difference of opinion. I like a good debate and even though I've moved on to iPhone, I still frequent Crackberry because I like to see a difference of opinion, but it seems a lot of the members over at CB throw the term "troll" around waaaay too much just because someone doesn't believe BB to be the be-all-end-all of mobile phones. In my experience, I haven't found many iPhone users to be that way.

**robes1** · 10-27-2011, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by noaim

The evo was hyped up as this great 4g phone why did htc think that 4 hours of battery life was a good idea..

dont get me wrong there is some android phones that are fine but the evo in my opinion was one of the most overhyped that didnt work well.. Both my sister and brother in law have one and they are both massively disappointed in the battery life of the thing

HTC doesn't give a damn about battery life. Check out any of their phones from Android to WP.

**Peligro911** · 10-27-2011, 07:15 PM

I've have had all 3 bb , droid x , droid incredible iPhone 4 and now 4S

Once I got iPhone and realized how easy it was and everything. Worked and easy to set up I got a iPad and a. Apple tv ..and got my 5 year old her own iPod touch ( to gain my iPad back lol ) I rarely use my pc if I had the funds I would go buy a IMac

Blackberry works but every now and then u need a battery pull , re send service books .. I really liked having profiles for sounds lol I'm was or I guess am still a member of crackberry But haven't been there in awhile ..

Android .. Took me a while to even figure out lol I guess it worked but I hated the touch screen I would always open apps just trying to scroll
But biggest reason I ditched androids. Was the battery life the reps even talked me into them saying they were the best ... I tried but to me if u need anti virus and app killers and whatever else to try to maintain performance and battery there obviously is a prob to start with

I don't bash others because if u want a phone that does a lot there is tons of diff level androids from basic low end to high end. I just tease them because where I work all my employees that have them carry there chargers lol

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**verwon** · 10-27-2011, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by noaim

The evo was hyped up as this great 4g phone why did htc think that 4 hours of battery life was a good idea..

dont get me wrong there is some android phones that are fine but the evo in my opinion was one of the most overhyped that didnt work well.. Both my sister and brother in law have one and they are both massively disappointed in the battery life of the thing

I always had to carry a spare battery!

Sent from my iOS ecosystem!

**DrewBear** · 10-27-2011, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by sprocket2107

I was reading an article on the AndroidCentral page today about the recent patent over the lockscreen...What are your opinions on the whole Apple patent victory and also how do you guys/gals feel about Android/BlackBerry/Windows etc...?

Lawsuits over patents have been a part of business in this world for over a century. Nothing new happening today. It will take time for the courts to sort it all out. Whatever happens, business will continue and various companies will find ways to create new products. The particular lockscreen patent you bring up is very easy to get around. It will have very little effect in product diversity.

There are about a dozen mobile platforms in the world today. None of them will disappear anytime soon and new ones may appear (or reappear...WebOS) at any moment. My guess is the top three this decade will be iOS, Android and Windows Phone. Unlike the PC vs Mac OS situation, none of the mobile platforms will dominate the way Windows did. We consumers will continue to have plenty of choice. Everyone can be happy picking what suits them best.

**Motorbones** · 10-27-2011, 11:11 PM

I don't know why so many people have to think in terms of Apple vs Android. To me it's the same as Apples and Oranges (no pun intended). They're both smart phones just like an apple and an orange are fruit. They do what they do. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses. I came to iPhone 4s from the Droid Classic. I took a good look at the Bionic before deciding and I made my choice based on what I wanted. I think the Bionic would have made a terrific phone for my basic needs, but I chose Apple because both the phone and OS are made by the same people (while with Droid the OS and hardware from from different sources). To be honest, if Android were to quit making so many variety of Oranges and focus all it's talent and energies on one or two great Droids, it could easily blow right pass Apple, but with all the varieties of choices, not a chance for a long time. Until then most the Droids will be plagued with glitches and such. In the meantime, there are a few really decent Droids out there. It'll be interesting to see where Apple goes from here with Steve gone. That... is currently the big variable in all of this!!!!

**sunny8987** · 10-28-2011, 02:18 AM

I think every phone has its advantages and weakness, just go with your needs.
If you don't like it, change another one. It's not that complicated.

**chrstdvd** · 10-28-2011, 04:04 AM

Well, today is crunch day, day 14. Time to make up my my mind to keep the 4s or go back to Android.
Many things I do not like/can not get used to on the iPhone. The apps like Weather Bug are totally hosed on the iPhone, there are no options and settings to make it show what I want to/am used to seeing. Very upset that Google Maps does not have voice directions for navigation. The browsing without tabs is totally frustrating, as is, being forced to m. web sites.

But the very worst thing for me is no backward navigation. et. I hit a link in an email, go to the browser and read, I can not hit a "back" button to get me back into email. No matter what app I am in, if I answer a notification, I have no way to get back to what I was doing.

When an app stops functioning (I touch a link, or one of the buttons and nothing happens) there is no battery pull or cont alt del function.

Jailbreak is a joke compared to Rooting. I can not share to Facebook, I do not use twitter or the other share choices offered.

So, I am giving this 4s to my wife, the iPod queen, and having my Droid 2 reinstated.

**neo_gr8est1** · 10-28-2011, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by smarter phone

I think every phone has its advantages and weakness, just go with your needs.
If you don't like it, change another one. It's not that complicated.

agreed... If only people had this simple understanding..

**flybub** · 10-28-2011, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by chrstdvd

Well, today is crunch day, day 14. Time to make up my my mind to keep the 4s or go back to Android.
Many things I do not like/can not get used to on the iPhone. The apps like Weather Bug are totally hosed on the iPhone, there are no options and settings to make it show what I want to/am used to seeing. Very upset that Google Maps does not have voice directions for navigation. The browsing without tabs is totally frustrating, as is, being forced to m. web sites.

But the very worst thing for me is no backward navigation. et. I hit a link in an email, go to the browser and read, I can not hit a "back" button to get me back into email. No matter what app I am in, if I answer a notification, I have no way to get back to what I was doing.

When an app stops functioning (I touch a link, or one of the buttons and nothing happens) there is no battery pull or cont alt del function.

Jailbreak is a joke compared to Rooting. I can not share to Facebook, I do not use twitter or the other share choices offered.

So, I am giving this 4s to my wife, the iPod queen, and having my Droid 2 reinstated.

I returned my 4s and re-activated my Droid Incredible for almost these same reasons. I really really missed my back button!

iPhone and Android get things done there's no question about it, but I just prefer how Android gets my things done. I'm much more effiecient with Android than I was with the iPhone. The iPhone is a great device but it's not for me. I'm holding out for the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon.

**DANNCAS** · 10-28-2011, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by sprocket2107

I was reading an article on the AndroidCentral page today about the recent patent over the lockscreen. After owning an android phone for a little over a year I got really into the android platform. I would always be in the forums and stuff and reading about everything and very rarely would I come across someone who hated Apple. Now after this recent post on AndroidCentral I saw a lot of comments bashing Apple saw that iPhones are just toys and only 5 years old use them and how simple they are to use. I just recently got my iPhone and wasn't yet a true fan of all things Apple. I had to hold everything in with my comments because I knew that if I posted something about liking Apple that I would get flamed and be completely outnumbered. Now I know that I will get a more biased answer here but I feel as if the Apple community is more level headed when it comes to all things smartphones and what not. What are your opinions on the whole Apple patent victory and also how do you guys/gals feel about Android/BlackBerry/Windows etc...? Me, I'm obviously now more of an Apple fanboy than ever. I have a Mac, iPod classic, iPad and now iPhone. I loved my Android but iOS just works, no matter what device. Android fanboys can rag on it all they want but I don't need to root my device to get it to work. It may not have the amazing specs of these top of the line android phones but it runs so much smoother and faster than any of these Android phones. I say, let them have their rooting and overclocking and what not but its not stable. The Android OS just isn't as elegant and defined as iOS and the iPhone hasn't been around for that long.

I just bought a Samsung Galaxy SII New to android was BB for years love them but limited. The Samsung GS2 is amazing but for some reason I'm not happy with Android platform. I had asked several questions on the android site and allway go no anser or a smart *** anser. it was lake i was always talking to a American 14 year old, With blackberry I alsway go a polite answer and an intelligent one. Im hope for the same here because the GS2 is going back and I'm waiting for my 4S to come in the post. I'm getting a full refund. but in the mean time ATT said i can keep the GS2. So i have to agree with the above post. Droid FANBOYs are BOYS

**DANNCAS** · 10-28-2011, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by chris3896

I've had all platforms so I'm a pretty fair and balanced (right Fox News?) guy. I just came from a Blackberry and an android before that. Sometimes I wish there were more options in general overall. I can't deny that everything works right on iOS but I really never had the problems that most other people has with either Blackberry or Android. Blackberry app store was atrocious but other than that it served its purpose. Android was very open and sometimes you get some crap applications but I could customize whatever and I liked that. I am now on the 4S and like it overall but sometimes the restrictions on certain things bother me but ironically if I want everything to "work" I have to jailbreak the phone. Hopefully a jailbreak comes out soon. A few tweaks and I will be completely happy. Although I will say Google integration isn't the best on here (calendar doesn't update correctly and push email isn't as fast as I am used to) but I guess I'm biased based on my crackberry.

YES BLACBERRY email rocks. they do it right. I email alot. I hate to text. I think its stupid. If some one texts me more then four time sI text them back ( call me or email me.) Email was made for lots of text and with a BB its just as fast a text. I. know I will miss that on the Iphone I miss it on this andoid I have now.

**DANNCAS** · 10-28-2011, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Peligro911

I've have had all 3 bb , droid x , droid incredible iPhone 4 and now 4S

Once I got iPhone and realized how easy it was and everything. Worked and easy to set up I got a iPad and a. Apple tv ..and got my 5 year old her own iPod touch ( to gain my iPad back lol ) I rarely use my pc if I had the funds I would go buy a IMac

Blackberry works but every now and then u need a battery pull , re send service books .. I really liked having profiles for sounds lol I'm was or I guess am still a member of crackberry But haven't been there in awhile ..

Android .. Took me a while to even figure out lol I guess it worked but I hated the touch screen I would always open apps just trying to scroll
But biggest reason I ditched androids. Was the battery life the reps even talked me into them saying they were the best ... I tried but to me if u need anti virus and app killers and whatever else to try to maintain performance and battery there obviously is a prob to start with

I don't bash others because if u want a phone that does a lot there is tons of diff level androids from basic low end to high end. I just tease them because where I work all my employees that have them carry there chargers lol

Sent Into Orbit from my iPhone 4S using Tapatalk

A five year old an Ipod. WHAT HAPPENED TO LEGOS
my 7 year old is lucky to have a DS. I guess im old. 50 years older then my kid. lol

**DANNCAS** · 10-28-2011, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by flybub

I returned my 4s and re-activated my Droid Incredible for almost these same reasons. I really really missed my back button!

iPhone and Android get things done there's no question about it, but I just prefer how Android gets my things done. I'm much more effiecient with Android than I was with the iPhone. The iPhone is a great device but it's not for me. I'm holding out for the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon.

I oedered the Iphone 4s ave Galaxy S2 I did not like the browser on the BB it was a pain. i love the brower on the Gs2. PROBLEM ON THE IPHONE ?? I Hate the lack of battery life on the Droid.
i hope i'm not making a mistake. chime in guys and gals