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    BlackBerry Z10 Review | BGR

    Unfortunately, this is exactly what i was afraid of reading through BB's development stages and ultimately, the pre-release info that was available...a lack luster device that will not save this company. The little nuances that they mentioned are something any new smart phone is going to experience, even our iPhone's have little details that get sorted out with updates and what not...but there seem to be some significant issues (both design wise and with fundamental pieces of the OS) that are going to spell doom for Blackberry...but this shouldn't surprise anyone, this is the same company that came a hair away from swapping their devices over to the Android platform about mid way through their OS development.

    Unfortunately, i don't think this bodes well for Blackberry as a whole.
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    Didn't you know that BGR is owned by Apple? (sarcasm)

    The comments after the article are a hoot
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    Default Re: BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    BlackBerry Z10 Review | BGR

    Unfortunately, this is exactly what i was afraid of reading through BB's development stages and ultimately, the pre-release info that was available...a lack luster device that will not save this company. The little nuances that they mentioned are something any new smart phone is going to experience, even our iPhone's have little details that get sorted out with updates and what not...but there seem to be some significant issues (both design wise and with fundamental pieces of the OS) that are going to spell doom for Blackberry...but this shouldn't surprise anyone, this is the same company that came a hair away from swapping their devices over to the Android platform about mid way through their OS development.

    Unfortunately, i don't think this bodes well for Blackberry as a whole.
    Not good at all for "BlackBerry". The OS honestly reminds me of a cheap knockoff hybrid of iOS and Android. I'd put money on it that it's going to flop. Which is sad because I'd really like to see them survive and do well.
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    The telling sign is that the vast majority of reviews say it's "not bad" or "almost as good as" the competition.
    Even their highly touted web browser, the supposed crown jewel of BB10 in some people's eyes, is getting a lackluster response from reviewers.

    The whole mobile phone market needs some fresh competition, but this doesn't look like it's going to do it.
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    oh. my. god.
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    Digg.com's teaser/link to buzzfeed.com's BB coverage: "Today's BlackBerry 10 event wasn't a product launch. It was a funeral." -- O M G indeed.
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    I agree with the OP, my expectations weren't high at all. My biggest worries were the app selection, the icon set up, and the physical design of the device. All three are very underwhelming. I don't understand why they are releasing the device in march, especially with the next galaxy device due for announcement. I like some parts of the new OS, but overall the whole package is meh.


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    I watched the launch event. I really like the idea of the time warp feature on the camera (with three boys, I can never get them all smiling at once.)

    However, the overall package is not enough to make me want to sign a two year contract for something that may or may not be around halfway through.
    In two weeks I will be switching carriers...and stick with my original plan for an iPhone 5.
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    The one thing everyone is overlooking here is Blackberry is not aiming to persuade iOS or Android users to switch. They are aiming at pleasing existing BB users and keeping them from switching platforms. They are aiming for new users coming from a feature phone who will like the cheaper prices. I thought the hardware was nice looking, the OS looked nice with some pretty OK features and they have some good apps at the beginning. I think they are going to do a lot better than most doubters think they will.

    My problem which involves them as much as the other platforms. They all say they are doing it for the user but they really aren't and the Video BBM was a perfect example. The problem? it is Blackberry proprietery why? It would be nice for once if they had gone to Apple and said "Look we want Video BBM and BBM to talk to iMessage and FaceTime. Apple wouldn't feel intimidated and it would have actually been a plus for Blackberry but mostly for the users. One day it will happen I guess.
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    This is what I expected. I mean there is no longer a fight for #1 or #2 its all about going for 3rd/4th. BB10 wasn't aiming to dethrone android or IOS, because that isn't going to happen. BB came too late with everyone being so entrenched into a particular ecosystem or just sticking with a particular brand. BB has left too many customers out to dry in the past and it's coming back to bite them.
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    And honestly I am just hoping for more competition. I think BB did a lot of things well and there are some ideas that apple could use in IOS 7 to really make IOS that much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kch50428 View Post
    Didn't you know that BGR is owned by Apple? (sarcasm)

    The comments after the article are a hoot
    Doubtful... BGR has been bagging on Apple and their stock prices and their imminent demise worse than anyone over the past several months. (Yeah, I know you weren’t 100% serious)
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    Look guys I'm a apple fans but even if I owned a very good iPhone 4S I'm considering switching to the new blackberry z10 it look way sharper than the iPhone 5. I'm getting bored of the home button and quality built and small battery of the iPhone 5 and now when I go the apple store and change my wife iPhone 4S 4 times because of the quality built, and now they don't want to change it again. I'm kind of getting sick and tired of having to go to the apple store. I tought the iPhone was the best phone on earth. 😡
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    The storm 2 is still one of my overall favorite phones I've ever owned. Aside from my iPhone 5 of course. After the storm 2 they just kinda went to .
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    Quote Originally Posted by plantemichel View Post
    Look guys I'm a apple fans but even if I owned a very good iPhone 4S I'm considering switching to the new blackberry z10 it look way sharper than the iPhone 5. I'm getting bored of the home button and quality built and small battery of the iPhone 5 and now when I go the apple store and change my wife iPhone 4S 4 times because of the quality built, and now they don't want to change it again. I'm kind of getting sick and tired of having to go to the apple store. I tought the iPhone was the best phone on earth. 😡
    That's understandable, my major gripe would be apps. I'm looking at the App Store online, and it's depressing. Hopefully things change over the next month or so.


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    Default BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

    Since when does anyone listen to BGR? If anyone had watched the event today on BlackBerry 10, they would know that the devices are extremely fast and beautiful. Also, BB10 launches with over 70,000 apps. They have every top application with the exception of 2, Netflix and Hulu, and they are working on bringing those to the platform right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jclisenby View Post
    Since when does anyone listen to BGR? If anyone had watched the event today on BlackBerry 10, they would know that the devices are extremely fast and beautiful. Also, BB10 launches with over 70,000 apps. They have every top application with the exception of 2, Netflix and Hulu, and they are working on bringing those to the platform right now.
    It's not just BGR, that just happened to be the first one i read today...it's nearly ALL of the reviews.

    Blackberry needed a home run with this launch...they got a solid single. Too little...too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    It's not just BGR, that just happened to be the first one i read today...it's nearly ALL of the reviews.

    Blackberry needed a home run with this launch...they got a solid single. Too little...too late.
    I think it's a lot better than a single. It's not a home run, but its close to a triple. This will quickly become a popular phone on a global scale. It'll take Canada by storm. The only place where adoption will be terrible is the US.
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    I have seen mixed feelings so far on bb10. Some say it feels a generation late, some say its on point and can probably win back some former customers. IMO it looks good and I want to try it out in person.


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    Also, i did watch the keynote...i still feel exactly the same as i did before i watched it. Weird huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jclisenby View Post
    I think it's a lot better than a single. It's not a home run, but its close to a triple. This will quickly become a popular phone on a global scale. It'll take Canada by storm. The only place where adoption will be terrible is the US.
    If BlackBerry just hit a triple, then they're down by about 15 runs in the bottom of the 9th.

    Canada is just a tiny drop in the bucket for the mobile world, who cares if it takes canada by storm (which it won't, RIM disappointed a lot of Canadians too).

    BlackBerry's major markets are developing countries where they sell antiquated phones at low prices. BB10 will not be affordable to the vast majority of those customers.

    People have to use a little common sense when thinking about where Blackberry is headed. They're not headed for #1 or #2. Even their own CEO said they were aiming for 3rd place. This new phone is not a game changer for the majority of people. It's a game changer for blackberry diehards who simply must have a blackberry. For everyone else, it's going to be another choice that doesn't stand out in any way.

    They'll still sell a pile of phones eventually, I'll be buying one since I'm a developer and need it for testing. But they won't be turning any part of the smartphone market on its head. Maybe in 3 years, if BB10 is successful enough to keep Blackberry afloat--and--they hit a home run with Blackberry 11--and--Google, Apple and Microsoft make a large number of missteps, maybe then Blackberry will have a shot at one of the top spots.
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    Sometimes I really just can't believe that BGR is a legit news source...
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    The Verge's video review from josh gave it a 7/10. Josh gave the iPhone a 8.8/10. Getting a 7 on a platform resign is not good. I believe BB10 devices will sell we'll for a quarter and then really collapse after that.
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    Former BlackBerry user here and I was really underwhelmed. They should have saved all their demos for launch instead of demoing it in every country they've visited and hence some of the highlights were seen some time ago.

    What really has me worried about BlackBerry and their future is the tiny amount if native apps. 1K out of the 70K apps are native... Only 1K in nearly 2 years of wooing developers? Fire the guy in charge of developer relations immediately.

    The hardware and OS have set a strong base and it seems really snappy but it will all be in vane without a viable ecosystem.

    In closing there is nothing there that will make me switch to the Z10 as a media consumption device. The Q10 on the other hand has me interested if only for the keyboard and the messaging capabilities.
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    I think the proof is in the pudding so it will depend once these devices hit whether they still freeze up all the time, The user has to pull the battery off the back all those kinds of stupid issues that shouldn't exist in this new smartphone era. If there are none of those issues I think it has a chance don't forget we are the market right now but we are older the younger generation are the ones that will soon be the MARKET. So if the price of the phone is cheaper compared then it will be an easier choice for parents to give their tweens. Every smartphone gets you from A to B now it's the ecosystem you invest in that keeps you hooked. So it's not a home run and it's not a nail in the coffin it's a see how it goes from here. The thing that worries me is not the hardware or the OS it's the people of Blackberry. They just seem to be doing things wrong like bringing Alicia Keys on stage? to me that is like Polaroid having Lady Gaga as their "Brand Embassador" or whatever the hell she was to them. It means nothing like someone on Endgadget said is anyone going to be calling up Alicia Keys with questions on the brand? Then they announce the hardware but it wont be in stores until March? Their ads in the past have been horrible so their Superbowl spot had better be good. I just think they have players already in the game that are perfect examples of what to do right how to build hype, what you need to do for a successful launch, how to market the product so there is no excuse to bomb at anything. It's like taking the playbook(pun intended) throwing it in the garbage and saying I'll get us touchdowns.
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