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    I agree with Sean to a point. If Blackberry's goal was to regain its lost customers in droves, they indeed missed the mark. Like Sean stated, they needed to present us with a device or devices that would wow us, but they didn't. That is not to say that they didn't present powerful and capable devices. Now, will the lackluster introduction of their latest BB10 devices be the end of Blackberry? I'm not sure. I do think that, given time, they will slowly re-acquire a large customer base, maybe even by the end of the year and definitely if the next iPhone devices aren't what people are hoping for. I hate to say it, but an argument can be made that the length of their existence hinges on what Apple brings to the table later this year.
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    It's not what Apple brings to the table, it's what Android/Samsung brings to the table. They'll never reach Apple, so imo, they are targeting Android. The Z10 looks like an Android, and most of the apps for it, were developed by and for Android. I think that the SGSIV, should b*tch slap them real good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt0300 View Post
    It's not what Apple brings to the table, it's what Android/Samsung brings to the table. They'll never reach Apple, so imo, they are targeting Android. The Z10 looks like an Android, and most of the apps for it, were developed by and for Android. I think that the SGSIV, should b*tch slap them real good.
    You could very well be right, Grunt. I agree that the Z10 looks like a past Android device, specifically the Droid X, but I didn't know that their apps were by and for the Android platform. Interesting.
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    Apple is too powerful. I'm an Android user, but i'm willing to admit that. BB will settle for third place right now, but trying to reach second, they would have to crawl over Android. Android in general, and Samsung in particular, will not let that happen. Now HTC is trying to make a power play, with a new Adroid operating system to rival Samsung's. Whoever wins the Android battle(my money is on Samsung), BB will never jump over them. Their fan base is too small. It's sad really. When BB fanboys/girls rush a store in Vietnam, it's big news at Crackberry. I'm sorry, but to me that's lame. Hey, guess what, BB is number one in Madagascar! Please, give me a break. Don't give up your friends on the way up, because you'll need them all on the way down.
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    Engadget's review of the Z10's camera makes me cringe...i know this is starting to sound more and more like Blackberry bashing, and i don't mean it too...it's just that every time i turn a corner, another part of the phone is reviewed with lack luster results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    Engadget's review of the Z10's camera makes me cringe...i know this is starting to sound more and more like Blackberry bashing, and i don't mean it too...it's just that every time i turn a corner, another part of the phone is reviewed with lack luster results.
    You're simply stating the facts, Sean. Unless I'm mistaken, everyone who attended the ceremony received a Z10 device and therefore, I'm assuming much of the online tech reviews are based off of their time spent with them. Still, as techies, our reviews may be a tad bit more stringent than that of the general public and our expectations may far exceed theirs as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe'D View Post
    You could very well be right, Grunt. I agree that the Z10 looks like a past Android device, specifically the Droid X, but I didn't know that their apps were by and for the Android platform. Interesting.
    Yeah supposedly only 1000 of the app on BB World are actually native for BB10 the other 76000 are ports from Android or the Playbook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swarlos View Post
    Yeah supposedly only 1000 of the app on BB World are actually native for BB10 the other 76000 are ports from Android or the Playbook.
    Thanks. Do you have any idea of how well the apps that are ported over from Android perform with BB10?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe'D View Post
    Thanks. Do you have any idea of how well the apps that are ported over from Android perform with BB10?
    From what I read they work pretty well just the reviewers were saying the apps just didn't blend with BB10 very well because of the different design languages so settings menus were kind of confusing. But again I don't believe there are many top apps from even that platform available just a bunch of crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swarlos View Post
    From what I read they work pretty well just the reviewers were saying the apps just didn't blend with BB10 very well because of the different design languages so settings menus were kind of confusing. But again I don't believe there are many top apps from even that platform available just a bunch of crap.
    Oh okay. Thank you. I appreciate the feedback.
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    Oh okay. Thank you. I appreciate the feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe'D View Post
    Thanks. Do you have any idea of how well the apps that are ported over from Android perform with BB10?
    The ported Android apps work almost flawlessly. The only problems I have encountered with Android ports are that they often don't look like BB apps. The buttons and navigation icons are often in different places than from native BB apps.

    The other problem is occasionally with navigation. Not having physical buttons, which the Droid apps were built for, is an issue on occasion.

    I would say that the Android ports, aside from the design differences and occasional navigation hiccups, are nearly impossible to detect in comparison to native apps.

    BlackBerry has been working hard on Android app integration for 2 years, starting with the Playbook. They have done a great job at this and it makes BB10 much stronger from an app and developer perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt0300 View Post
    It's not what Apple brings to the table, it's what Android/Samsung brings to the table. They'll never reach Apple, so imo, they are targeting Android. The Z10 looks like an Android, and most of the apps for it, were developed by and for Android. I think that the SGSIV, should b*tch slap them real good.
    I'm willing to bet that the S4 won't reach the heights of the S3.

    Reason for saying so is that people are already locked into 2 year contracts and the S3 in itself is a very, very compelling device. The S4 is going to have to bring a whole lot more than a larger screen to reach the heights of its predecessor.

    The better Samsung gets the harder it will become to replicate past success. They are entering Apple territory now and it will be interesting to see how they handle the hurdle... Do they continue to throw everything in terms of specs or do they take a step back and assess where this is heading?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    Engadget's review of the Z10's camera makes me cringe...i know this is starting to sound more and more like Blackberry bashing, and i don't mean it too...it's just that every time i turn a corner, another part of the phone is reviewed with lack luster results.
    The Z10's camera is just a travesty. Of all the things the camera was about the easiest thing to get right.

    Exceptional cameras have become an integral part of the mobile experience and it's just plain inexcusable that they've missed this mark. The apps situation I can understand but poor camera hardware... No no.
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    I'm willing to bet that the S4 won't reach the heights of the S3.

    Reason for saying so is that people are already locked into 2 year contracts and the S3 in itself is a very, very compelling device. The S4 is going to have to bring a whole lot more than a larger screen to reach the heights of its predecessor.

    The better Samsung gets the harder it will become to replicate past success. They are entering Apple territory now and it will be interesting to see how they handle the hurdle... Do they continue to throw everything in terms of specs or do they take a step back and assess where this is heading?
    Did you see the video of the SGSIV, with the holographic keyboard? If it's true, they're entering Star Wars territory.
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    The Z10's camera is just a travesty. Of all the things the camera was about the easiest thing to get right.
    Did anyone notice that when he showed off the time shift capability at the launch event, he had trouble getting it to focus? All the pics he took of Thorsten were blurry to a point.

    I've kind of skimmed through this thread, and here's my $.02

    As someone who has always loved his BlackBerry devices, I was looking forward to this with great anticipation. Unfortunately, what I saw Wednesday (coupled with the US delay) didn't instill enough confidence in me to sign a two-year contract on an unproven platform.

    Several people here (and some other Mobile Nations threads) have nailed it I think - it's not just about the phone and what it can do, it's now becoming to be about the platform. Apple has their ecosystem, Google is doing a good job of building theirs, and MS (say what you want about WP8) has theirs. BlackBerry has no real ecosystem to speak of at this point, and has to rely on third party apps to be able to work with others (dropbox, Office apps, etc.)

    It's a nice looking device, I do love the Flow and Peek idea, but....it's not just compelling enough for me personally to take a risk on. In two weeks, I'll be free from my regional carriers contract, and will be looking for a new phone. I will be going with a phone that is available now (not 2 months from now), and has the best chance of having support for the next two years. I'm thinking iPhone 5.
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    Here's a question for you guys...where does Apple go next with iOS? besides getting a UI overhaul and a million more apps come out, whats next as tech advances and becomes even more about of our lives. QNX sorta has that advantage
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    Did anyone notice that when he showed off the time shift capability at the launch event, he had trouble getting it to focus? All the pics he took of Thorsten were blurry to a point.

    I've kind of skimmed through this thread, and here's my $.02

    As someone who has always loved his BlackBerry devices, I was looking forward to this with great anticipation. Unfortunately, what I saw Wednesday (coupled with the US delay) didn't instill enough confidence in me to sign a two-year contract on an unproven platform.

    Several people here (and some other Mobile Nations threads) have nailed it I think - it's not just about the phone and what it can do, it's now becoming to be about the platform. Apple has their ecosystem, Google is doing a good job of building theirs, and MS (say what you want about WP8) has theirs. BlackBerry has no real ecosystem to speak of at this point, and has to rely on third party apps to be able to work with others (dropbox, Office apps, etc.)

    It's a nice looking device, I do love the Flow and Peek idea, but....it's not just compelling enough for me personally to take a risk on. In two weeks, I'll be free from my regional carriers contract, and will be looking for a new phone. I will be going with a phone that is available now (not 2 months from now), and has the best chance of having support for the next two years. I'm thinking iPhone 5.
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    Here's a question for you guys...where does Apple go next with iOS? besides getting a UI overhaul and a million more apps come out, whats next as tech advances and becomes even more about of our lives. QNX sorta has that advantage
    QNX has no advantage over any other OS. Blah blah realtime OS blah blah wireless bridge. I haven't seen any of this put to good use yet, nor have I heard any future prospects that aren't possible with other platforms as well. Right now, it's just a bunch of smoke.
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    Whats wrong with third party? At least they're available on all ur devices making it a great cross platform phone dlna to any device, scoreloop for social gaming across multiple platforms, and cloud services from companies that do it well integrated into the OS
    I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with third party apps in general; my point was that they are at the mercy of third party developers. Look at BBOS 6/7 and tell me that's not an issue.Constant refrain I used to hear on CB was "well they won't develop for OS7 because BB10 is coming". Which is fine, that's a developers right.

    But Google has Google Drive with their version of Office, MS has SkyDrive with office, Apple has iWork. Google has a large movie/app/music ecosystem in Google Play, Apple has the same in iTunes, MS has the same in...well, ok not as big. Email? Check - all three have there own. Tasks? Gmail and iCloud for sure, I believe WP7/8 does as well just not 100% sure on tasks. Calendar? Check.

    The point I was trying to make previously (and maybe I didn't just think it through out loud) was the BB faces an uphill battle in this area. Sure they made some announcements on Wednesday regarding apps and movies. That's going to take time to build.

    My thought is that going forward, while device specs are still going to be thrown about, the smartphone wars are going to develop into a different front, and that's the ecosystem front. For example, let's use Google and their services (since I've used them for the last couple years)

    Google's "plan" (for lack of a better term) is this - You want to use gmail on a BlackBerry or Windows Phone? Ok, you can have access. We'll even let you sync your calendars. You want a full fledged experience (All your calendars sync to your phone, Tasks sync to your phone)? Use an Android device (but you'll have to put up with the manufacturers "skins"). You want a real, real, plain vanilla Android experience? Use a Nexus device.

    I really think this is where the smartphone wars are going to go in the very near future. And in fact, we've seen this with Google recently (dropping Exchange, messing with WP8 access) You want to tap into our ecosystem? Fine, but you'll only get a taste. You want the full thing? Come use our platform, our device.

    And this, I think, is where BB10 is going to struggle in the consumer market. I don't know enough about the Enterprise/business divisions to really say if they'll recoup their losses there, but from this consumer's standpoint, there's nothing compelling enough in BB10 to make me comfortable signing a 2-year contract to get a Z10 or X10.

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    Here's a question for you guys...where does Apple go next with iOS? besides getting a UI overhaul and a million more apps come out, whats next as tech advances and becomes even more about of our lives. QNX sorta has that advantage
    Apple devices, in and of themselves, are to be marveled, in my opinion. They are well made and nice looking, however, the user interface (specifically iOS) is arguably the weak link. In my opinion, many of the gripes about Apple's alleged lack of innovation are aimed at the user interface. The general public, as far as I can tell, is not harping on Apple to innovate. They appear to be content as opposed to techies and the tech based media. They are the ones who get bored easily and demand changes to keep them interested and if they don't get their way, they slam Apple with reports like what we've seen as of late. Having said all of that, it is my hope that Apple focuses on a somewhat revamped UI as well as add common sense stuff such as a "select-all" feature wherever items are accumulated. I have no doubt that the hardware will be top notch because they always are.
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    QNX has no advantage over any other OS. Blah blah realtime OS blah blah wireless bridge. I haven't seen any of this put to good use yet, nor have I heard any future prospects that aren't possible with other platforms as well. Right now, it's just a bunch of smoke.
    QNX car 2 and other recent partnerships they have done is vaporware im sorry mike /s ...you havent seen it maybe cause bb10 launched 4 days ago? still didn't answer the question of where does apple go next...whats their "next big thing"
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    QNX car 2 and other recent partnerships they have done is vaporware im sorry mike /s ...you havent seen it maybe cause bb10 launched 4 days ago? still didn't answer the question of where does apple go next...whats their "next big thing"
    If anyone outside of Apple knew what they were planning next, that would be pretty valuable information, don't you think? What a ridiculous question...

    QNX car 2... What exactly does that have to do with phones again? Oh ya...nothing! It's business for RIMberry, but not their phone division.
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    If anyone outside of Apple knew what they were planning next, that would be pretty valuable information, don't you think? What a ridiculous question...

    QNX car 2... What exactly does that have to do with phones again? Oh ya...nothing! It's business for RIMberry, but not their phone division.
    yet there are Apple "rumors" daily so ppl have some sort of idea.... nd QNX Car 2 has a lot to do with the phone, if u havent seen the video of the Bentley at CES go see u will know
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