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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerSnapsBack View Post
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    Have to agree. About the only enthusiastic person there was CB Kevin and he tends to get enthusiastic about anything BB related. The audience didn't seem that much in to the BBX devices and the applause was lackluster at best.

    One thing that I watched in the keynote was the sharing the screen bit. Maybe it's just me, but how can sharing a screen on a phone be beneficial to someone on a teleconference call? I've been on multiple conference calls where computer screen sharing was done for demonstration purposes over the Internet but sharing a phone screen?

    When Tim Cook announced the iPhone5, crowd involvement was much more enthusiastic.
    The only thing as of now with screen sharing being beneficial is helping the technically challenged like my mom LOL being able to show her what to do with my screen then having her show me right after would be awesome other than that though seems kind of gimmicky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Not good at all for "BlackBerry". The OS honestly reminds me of a cheap knockoff hybrid of iOS and Android. I'd put money on it that it's going to flop. Which is sad because I'd really like to see them survive and do well.
    Right - the OS kernel that is used to navigate rovers on other planets is a cheap knock off of a lackluster vanilla iOS and the buggiest OS a smartphone has ever seen (i.e. Android).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    I stopped reading your posts when you said a person's review of the product was wrong, lol! You're a blackberry apologist (on an iPhone forum mind you) who knows as well as anyone else that you're listening to Blackberry's swan song...you knock yourself out pretending like there's a future there.
    ROFL! Right - because Apple is an innovating machine these days /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjs416 View Post
    Right - the OS kernel that is used to navigate rovers on other planets is a cheap knock off of a lackluster vanilla iOS and the buggiest OS a smartphone has ever seen (i.e. Android).
    Gotta assume he's talking about the UI, since you can't see the kernel...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausty82 View Post
    IMHO, it might have been a competitive product and worthy of a solid look 2 or 3 years ago. Unfortunately, it looks to be too little, too late for my taste. Apple, android, and Windows are far, far ahead of BlackBerry... and at this point, catching up will be extremely difficult. Its a shame, too... many of us around here (myself included) cut our teeth on the BlackBerry devices. Good luck with your decision to purchase... and I mean it. Competition will push everyone to create and innovate... so the more players in the game, the better it is for everyone. Im just afraid that this offering is not enough to make it all work out for the company BlackBerry, and it dwindling user base.
    I keep seeing comments such as "it would be competitive 2 or 3 years ago"...but other than lacking apps, how is BB10 not on the same page as the rest of the current phones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yasmar View Post
    I keep seeing comments such as "it would be competitive 2 or 3 years ago"...but other than lacking apps, how is BB10 not on the same page as the rest of the current phones?
    ...smartphones are all about the apps...
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    To me the iPhone does get boring but so does every android phone I've owned.

    I think the blackberry looks alright. Reminds me of my old droid x which isn't a bad thing because I liked the device.

    But it is an uphill battle for them and I honestly don't know If they can make it.

    Look how hard it has been for Microsoft. While I think wp8 is really nice it just hard for them to catch android and the iPhone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kch50428 View Post
    ...smartphones are all about the apps...
    That's true for the most part. As long as they can get more of the big apps on BB10, I think they'll do alright.
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    It's sad when the audience at such an important keynote gets into an uproar over Alicia Keys making an appearance than the actual phone and OS even then it was still a train wreck hahaha.

    Pretty pathetic as well when the CEO has to say "Come On" while clapping to the audience to get some reaction and enthusiasm LOL.

    To add it doesn't bode well for RIM, Blackberry w/e that the U.S. carriers don't even have locked down dates I mean come on Mid March from AT&T and their the only carrier that has set somewhat of a timeframe. If I were RIM I would have pushed to get this device out at least a week after the keynote but with this they've already lost major traction.
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    " Unfortunately, it looks to be too little, too late for my taste. Apple, android, and Windows are far, far ahead of BlackBerry... and at this point, catching up will be extremely difficult."

    The Windows phones have been out for a few months now and they seem to be floundering. I honestly don't know but I see a lot of complaints in the WP forums. So why do you say that the WP's are "far far ahead"? They have a few months lead after the launch, but I don't think you're comment is justified. Clearly Apple and Samsung are FAR FAR ahead but a lightyear. I'd suggest giving BB a year and see where things fall out. Its pretty early to put any nails in BB's coffin just yet.
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    Default BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

    From what I've seen from the recent videos, the Z10 looks similar to the Droid X and if others see the similarities, is that a possible reason for the ho hum attitude toward it? As for missing apps, one review I read focused on BB10 not having Google Maps installed or available. That would not be a deciding factor for me on any device, but, that's Just Me, D. I'd like to think that certain apps will be available in time for the March release, but I'm only speculating. I stated a while back on another thread that the device seemed "Android-like". Now, however, with the exception that the Z10 looks like a Droid X and the app drawer icons are somewhat bland, I'm impressed with the UI. Again, I want to see it in-person before i give it a solid thumbs up or down. What say you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuffy100 View Post
    Sometimes I really just can't believe that BGR is a legit news source...
    This... that dude is a known troll, not many take him or his crappy site seriously.
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    Default BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

    The Q10 looks a much better proposition to me, but exclusively as a coms device for business.

    As far as media consumption and apps go... I'll stick with my sexy iPhone 5.

    The Z10 just looks awkward to me... What's up with the oversized bezels? Doesn't seem to use the same gestures as the PlayBook. And why does the Q10 have a substantially bigger battery than the power hungry all touch device? They may just as well market the Q10 as their flagship device because that is where it is headed. I can see plenty people buying it... It's freakin' beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yasmar View Post
    I keep seeing comments such as "it would be competitive 2 or 3 years ago"...but other than lacking apps, how is BB10 not on the same page as the rest of the current phones?
    First of all, as has been stated ad nauseum, it is about apps. Secondly, it doesn’t bring anything new to the table. No innovation. It fails to elicit any kind of "OMG"... it’s pretty much where iOS and even the android OS were a few years back. My point is that it WOULD have been competitive, perhaps even compelling in the past. Now it’s just another "me, too" device. Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not interested. Apparently many of the reviews also agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jefftam68 View Post
    " Unfortunately, it looks to be too little, too late for my taste. Apple, android, and Windows are far, far ahead of BlackBerry... and at this point, catching up will be extremely difficult."

    The Windows phones have been out for a few months now and they seem to be floundering. I honestly don't know but I see a lot of complaints in the WP forums. So why do you say that the WP's are "far far ahead"? They have a few months lead after the launch, but I don't think you're comment is justified. Clearly Apple and Samsung are FAR FAR ahead but a lightyear. I'd suggest giving BB a year and see where things fall out. Its pretty early to put any nails in BB's coffin just yet.
    What I posted is just my opinion. And you are entitled to yours. Go vote with your wallet, as I did and as others do. My comment was just that IMHO, it’s nothing to get worked up about. But that’s my opinion. You are free to agree or not.

    The Nokia Lumia line is getting good reviews... so we’ll see how it all plays out.

    BTW, did y’all see that Apple is now the top selling smart phone () in the US as of last quarter. Not bad for "the oldest smart phone OS on the planet", eh?

    BlackBerry clearly has its work cut out, and I just don’t see this device getting it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delta7 View Post
    This... that dude is a known troll, not many take him or his crappy site seriously.
    Most BB users do at least.

    Funny how anytime anyone says anything bad about BB on press releases or news sources, they're being a troll or are being fed by the Apple and Android machines. It has nothing to do with how well Android and Apple work and how many mistakes RIM has made over the years with half baked OSes and phones and the PlayBook.
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    ROFL! Right - because Apple is an innovating machine these days /sarcasm
    For the sake of argument, let's go with your idea that Apple is not innovative, and your implication that apple simply releases drone repeats with every iteration of iPhone, is accurate...doesn't it worry you just a bit that this new OS from Blackberry has been viewed with such mediocrity that it falls below the "boring" iOS? Arn't you the least bit concerned that Blackberry's new device is so hum drum that only a handful of the unique features being offered on it were memorable at all?

    I mean i hate to keep going back to the baseball analogies but this Blackberry release is looking like the home run that falls 20 feet short of the wall...the echo over the tech sites was like a pebble in the ocean...i go on these sites and you'd think no keynote happened at all, there's no media coverage of it really...there's just no real BUZZ about this device outside of the specific Blackberry world.

    You're here to troll, it's obvious from your responses, but man, when you sit back and you're honest with yourself...what a poor showing from Blackberry huh?

    To add some humor to this conversation, many of the "Death Pool" websites have sarcastically added Blackberry/RIM to their lists...it's a little sad, lol!
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    I had a rather long winded reply, but I'm going to condense it.

    BlackBerry for me was never about the third party apps as much as the functionality of its core apps. I liked being able to do a lot of what I needed to do then and there rather than having to leave an app because it doesn't offer a particular feature.

    The Z10 looks like it will win over the BB lovers, and IF that's enough to keep them in 3rd place, then they've achieved their goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    For the sake of argument, let's go with your idea that Apple is not innovative, and your implication that apple simply releases drone repeats with every iteration of iPhone, is accurate...doesn't it worry you just a bit that this new OS from Blackberry has been viewed with such mediocrity that it falls below the "boring" iOS? Arn't you the least bit concerned that Blackberry's new device is so hum drum that only a handful of the unique features being offered on it were memorable at all?

    I mean i hate to keep going back to the baseball analogies but this Blackberry release is looking like the home run that falls 20 feet short of the wall...the echo over the tech sites was like a pebble in the ocean...i go on these sites and you'd think no keynote happened at all, there's no media coverage of it really...there's just no real BUZZ about this device outside of the specific Blackberry world.

    You're here to troll, it's obvious from your responses, but man, when you sit back and you're honest with yourself...what a poor showing from Blackberry huh?

    To add some humor to this conversation, many of the "Death Pool" websites have sarcastically added Blackberry/RIM to their lists...it's a little sad, lol!
    I think you're being more than harsh here. Sure it doesn't pop out as being a must have device and OS but then again which 1.0 OS has?

    As the poster above said if it manages to keep them in third place then it has to be considered a success considering their current haemorrhage.
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    The whole thing reminds me of Palm introducing the Pre. Remember that? Make as many waves amongst the remaining loyal as possible, and then sit back and let them lose their enthusiasm until an actual device appears.
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    I can't believe the infighting that's going on, over at CrackBerry. The BB faithful are screaming over the U.S. release date, and which carrier should release first. First off, they should have opened with the Q10, not the Z10. So now they're waiting in the U.S., for the model that they don't even want. At least the Q10 looks like a BB. By the time that the Q10 is released March/April, they should prepare to be "samsunged" by the SGSIV. It's going to be fun, and i can't wait to see what happens.LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt0300 View Post
    I can't believe the infighting that's going on, over at CrackBerry. The BB faithful are screaming over the U.S. release date, and which carrier should release first. First off, they should have opened with the Q10, not the Z10. So now they're waiting in the U.S., for the model that they don't even want. At least the Q10 looks like a BB. By the time that the Q10 is released March/April, they should prepare to be "samsunged" by the SGSIV. It's going to be fun, and i can't wait to see what happens.LOL
    It's becoming an all out war over there. I don't like it at all. I like the Crackberry community...some of them anyway...and it is self destructing before our very eyes. The Blackberry trolls are coming out in full force, like wounded animals. They're upset that their "saviour" phone is getting lackluster reviews from professionals and users alike. I mean, there are people who are threatening reviewers, and organizing trolling groups to attack any site that doesn't praise the new Z10. They're absolutely shredding any newish members who question the "superiority" of Z10, thereby stunting the growth of the community.
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    I mean, there are people who are threatening reviewers, and organizing trolling groups to attack any site that doesn't praise the new Z10. They're absolutely shredding any newish members who question the "superiority" of Z10, thereby stunting the growth of the community.
    I hope those cats keep that scat in the crackberry sandbox... if those cats bring the ordure here... shudder...
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    I hope those cats keep that scat in the crackberry sandbox... if those cats bring the ordure here... shudder...
    We're ready...lol.
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    I think you're being more than harsh here. Sure it doesn't pop out as being a must have device and OS but then again which 1.0 OS has?

    As the poster above said if it manages to keep them in third place then it has to be considered a success considering their current haemorrhage.
    Call it what you will, but I'm just being realistic here...Blackberry was in a position where they needed to "wow the crowd" so to speak, and that just didn't happen at all...even the Blackberry loyalists were awash with a generally muted response to what was shown...no huge excitement, no big YES! response, just a "wait and see" sort of approach.

    People like yourself are hiding your eyes from the reality of what this needed to be for Blackberry...it NEEDED to be HUGE, it needed to be game changing, it needed to be a tsunami of positive review and favorable WANT for the device, and they missed the target. I'm not happy about it, i assure you, because as with anything, more competition means better devices across the board. Blackberry won't be around long enough to make a real difference for development, they'll be too busy trying to keep their company relevant enough to make money to stay alive.
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