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    What makes a blackberry a blackberry is the kb and communications features. In this case, we see an iphone like phone and a palm pixi variant to be released a bit later. It's not focused. So you have a square aspect ratio integrated with kb and a 4.2" full screen phone with yet a different aspect ratio and no buttons. Each has different screen resolutions. That will be fun to develop for. It divides RIM's focus.

    As for communication, the only push mail is exchange. Google is saying goodbye to that. The other PIM functions actually take a hit. Battery life? Much worse.

    In other words, I don't see how either would appeal to current blackberry users. These aren't blackberries anymore. You may as well switch to a better platform if you want the iphone wannabe. As for the qwerty phone, palm already went through that. Besides, this OS already failed in the tablet world.
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    Default BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

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    That's cold, Keith...(laughing)
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    That's cold, Keith...(laughing)
    It is below zero outside right now....
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    Default Re: BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

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    That's hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by www.devilmaycryinrain.com View Post
    BlackBerry will be introducing 4 more devices this year alone. Netflix and Instagram etc. are on their way but weren't announced due to the apps not being completed yet. BlackBerry is still a multi-billion dollar international company with no debt and over 80 million subscribers. .
    Why is that the only fact that BB people seem to remember?

    80 million subscribers. Wow. They're also haemorrhaging subscribers everywhere.

    So...How many did they lose over the years? How many have dumped BB for Apple or Android?

    I can think of three people. My sister, one of my friends and me.
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    Default Re: BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

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    That's hilarious.

    Even as a BB fan it gave me a chuckle too. Good find Keith!
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    Quote Originally Posted by www.devilmaycryinrain.com View Post
    Your reply has nothing to do with anything regarding this post or facts made.
    Yeah, it does. Every time there's a post, it's 80 million subscribers this, 80 million that. Good for you. You can repeat stuff. Good for RIM, but how many subscribers does Apple have? Android?

    A lot more. 80 million subscribers isn't anything if BB doesn't have the phones to back it up.
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    Same here haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by www.devilmaycryinrain.com View Post
    No, it doesn't have anything to do with regards to this post about the BGR review of the BlackBerry z10 and its inaccuracy.
    Nor does it have to do with the doom and gloom the American media preaches about BlackBerry when in fact that's not the real case.
    Your comment means nothing. Besides, it's called BlackBerry now... there is no more RIM.
    Feel free to watch the comparison video between the z10 and iphone 5 here on iMore and make a comment about the device and new OS.
    You're the one who brought up the subscriber numbers, he was just calling it out as the typical blackberry argument crutch. Don't want it questioned? Then don't mention it. You're the one who brought it into this context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by www.devilmaycryinrain.com View Post
    No, it doesn't have anything to do with regards to this post about the BGR review of the BlackBerry z10 and its inaccuracy.
    Nor does it have to do with the doom and gloom the American media preaches about BlackBerry when in fact that's not the real case.
    Your comment means nothing. Besides, it's called BlackBerry now... there is no more RIM.
    Feel free to watch the comparison video between the z10 and iphone 5 here on iMore and make a comment about the device and new OS.
    If you desire an environment where BB is adored, and anyone that speaks ill of the newly monikered BlackBerry, formerly known as RIM is quickly ridiculed - please feel free to make use of crackberry.com's forum.
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    Default Re: BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

    Quote Originally Posted by kch50428 View Post
    If you desire an environment where BB is adored, and anyone that speaks ill of the newly monikered BlackBerry, formerly known as RIM is quickly ridiculed - please feel free to make use of crackberry.com's forum.
    that's silly talk
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    Default Re: BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

    I stopped reading your posts when you said a person's review of the product was wrong, lol! You're a blackberry apologist (on an iPhone forum mind you) who knows as well as anyone else that you're listening to Blackberry's swan song...you knock yourself out pretending like there's a future there.
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    Default Re: BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

    Apparently Wall Street isn't buying into it, either...

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    but-but they have blinking lights, guys
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    Default Re: BGR's review of BB10 and the new flagship device...

    I've owned an iphone 5 and switched to the SGN2. Im going to give the z10 a shot, I was a long time bb user and still have a 9900 for work. Im pretty excited actually, z10 looks impressive for the first bb10 device.

    Ive owned the iphone 4, 4s and 5 not sure why I keep grabbing the new iphones since i seem to get bored of it pretty quickly after a couple months. say what you want about bb10 but ios is gotten pretty dull IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by miketko View Post
    I've owned an iphone 5 and switched to the SGN2. Im going to give the z10 a shot, I was a long time bb user and still have a 9900 for work. Im pretty excited actually, z10 looks impressive for the first bb10 device.

    Ive owned the iphone 4, 4s and 5 not sure why I keep grabbing the new iphones since i seem to get bored of it pretty quickly after a couple months. say what you want about bb10 but ios is gotten pretty dull IMO
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    ya this is annoying..Just another part of the hate, yes if you've only owned an iphone then you've developed a mental r*****ation. reason why i ditched my iphone 5.. it was boringggggg

    You guys smell that?

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    The Z10 finally makes BlackBerry competitive with Apple, Android, and Windows Phone devices. No longer is it going to be a joke when comparing a flagship device from Apple or Samsung to a BlackBerry offering. But that's where it stops...it's competitive, but not a OMGWTFBBQ leapfrogging of their competitors as some may want to believe. I have one on the way. It's either going to be the last BlackBerry I own, or one of more to come. I think they've nailed the user interface (gestures, keyboard etc) as far as offering something different, highly useable, and efficient. That being said, it's not something that's necessarily going to make an average consumer go "wow, I have to get that Z10".

    I'll reserve final judgement until I get the device in hand and use it for a while. But based on what I saw and some of the initial reviews, that iPod touch 5 is probably going to ride shotgun in my other pocket for a little while longer yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBerry Guy View Post
    The Z10 finally makes BlackBerry competitive with Apple, Android, and Windows Phone devices. No longer is it going to be a joke when comparing a flagship device from Apple or Samsung to a BlackBerry offering. But that's where it stops...it's competitive, but not a OMGWTFBBQ leapfrogging of their competitors as some may want to believe. I have one on the way. It's either going to be the last BlackBerry I own, or one of more to come. I think they've nailed the user interface (gestures, keyboard etc) as far as offering something different, highly useable, and efficient. That being said, it's not something that's necessarily going to make an average consumer go "wow, I have to get that Z10".

    I'll reserve final judgement until I get the device in hand and use it for a while. But based on what I saw and some of the initial reviews, that iPod touch 5 is probably going to ride shotgun in my other pocket for a little while longer yet...
    IMHO, it might have been a competitive product and worthy of a solid look 2 or 3 years ago. Unfortunately, it looks to be too little, too late for my taste. Apple, android, and Windows are far, far ahead of BlackBerry... and at this point, catching up will be extremely difficult. It’s a shame, too... many of us around here (myself included) cut our teeth on the BlackBerry devices. Good luck with your decision to purchase... and I mean it. Competition will push everyone to create and innovate... so the more players in the game, the better it is for everyone. I’m just afraid that this offering is not enough to make it all work out for the company BlackBerry, and it dwindling user base.
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    BAHAHAHAHA RIM oh excuse me, BLACKBERRY is really in trouble if one of their Top Games off of blackberryworld.com is Great Sex Positions!!!!

    LOL

    Seriously go look it up I'm dying!! The app selection is terrible it's even more abysmal than Blackberry App World and I had a BB Bold 9000 when RIM launched that.
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    I was never that "Apps is everything" guy but in this day and age, that sorry app store can't compete with ANYONE.
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    I just watched the entire Launch Keynote and boy talk about pathetic. Such a lack of energy and enthusiasm from the audience it might have well as been a funeral.

    The parallels between this and Steve Jobs original keynote in 2007 for the iPhone are quite striking.

    Thorsten Heins can't hold a candle to Jobs connection with his audience. Jobs presentation was much more captivating and engaging I mean come on prank calling a starbucks for 4000 lattes, Brilliant!!

    Was positively bored out of my mind when Vivek was demoing and it seemed like most of the audience was too. Compared to the booming response from Job's keynote it sounded like only 20 people was in that room rooting for BB10. This definitely did not excite me at all.
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    ^^^ I was going to write a similar response about the keynote, but i held back initially. I'd say if you want an optimistic opinion towards this device...DON'T watch the keynote, as it's a very confused experience with a real lack of direction. I mean, i know Blackberry isn't used to having a product they want to show off in such a way, they haven't had one for 5 or so years now...but this keynote was like watching a bunch of guys hired off the street to talk about a product they had learned a few facts about minutes before going on air...it was a bit pitiful.

    Now those of you that want to knock the iPhone in defense of this Z10 handset go right ahead...you know you're seeing the same things we are, you haven't even touched the phone yet, and you're defending it based on the idea that you HOPE it's a great product. Feel free to do that all you like...I'm going to go with the dozens of reviews i have read (in detail so far) that say otherwise, and when i get to experience the phone first hand, it won't be such a shock for me when it's exactly as described.

    You guys have a disappointment coming in your future, and i really feel badly for you in that regard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo007 View Post
    You're the one who brought up the subscriber numbers, he was just calling it out as the typical blackberry argument crutch. Don't want it questioned? Then don't mention it. You're the one who brought it into this context.
    Which was my point. And I'm a she, not a he.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    ^^^ I was going to write a similar response about the keynote, but i held back initially. I'd say if you want an optimistic opinion towards this device...DON'T watch the keynote, as it's a very confused experience with a real lack of direction. I mean, i know Blackberry isn't used to having a product they want to show off in such a way, they haven't had one for 5 or so years now...but this keynote was like watching a bunch of guys hired off the street to talk about a product they had learned a few facts about minutes before going on air...it was a bit pitiful.

    Now those of you that want to knock the iPhone in defense of this Z10 handset go right ahead...you know you're seeing the same things we are, you haven't even touched the phone yet, and you're defending it based on the idea that you HOPE it's a great product. Feel free to do that all you like...I'm going to go with the dozens of reviews i have read (in detail so far) that say otherwise, and when i get to experience the phone first hand, it won't be such a shock for me when it's exactly as described.

    You guys have a disappointment coming in your future, and i really feel badly for you in that regard...
    Have to agree. About the only enthusiastic person there was CB Kevin and he tends to get enthusiastic about anything BB related. The audience didn't seem that much in to the BBX devices and the applause was lackluster at best.

    One thing that I watched in the keynote was the sharing the screen bit. Maybe it's just me, but how can sharing a screen on a phone be beneficial to someone on a teleconference call? I've been on multiple conference calls where computer screen sharing was done for demonstration purposes over the Internet but sharing a phone screen?

    When Tim Cook announced the iPhone5, crowd involvement was much more enthusiastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBerry Guy View Post
    The Z10 finally makes BlackBerry competitive with Apple, Android, and Windows Phone devices. No longer is it going to be a joke when comparing a flagship device from Apple or Samsung to a BlackBerry offering. But that's where it stops...it's competitive, but not a OMGWTFBBQ leapfrogging of their competitors as some may want to believe. I have one on the way. It's either going to be the last BlackBerry I own, or one of more to come. I think they've nailed the user interface (gestures, keyboard etc) as far as offering something different, highly useable, and efficient. That being said, it's not something that's necessarily going to make an average consumer go "wow, I have to get that Z10".

    I'll reserve final judgement until I get the device in hand and use it for a while. But based on what I saw and some of the initial reviews, that iPod touch 5 is probably going to ride shotgun in my other pocket for a little while longer yet...
    Well stated. Like you, I love the way the interface look via the videos, but I'm not wowed or chomping at the bit to give up my 4S for the Z10. Also, I really want to get my hand on one and play with the interface as well as see how the device look in person. Still, like Fausty82 stated, I hope it becomes a success because many of us were big time Blackberry users, but I fear their remake of themselves and their devices may have come too late. I truly do hope I'm wrong.
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