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    Default Apple will own entire market by 2020

    There isn't any consumer electronics company left who hasn't tried to make their own iPhone, iPad or MacBook.

    Acer, ASUS, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Fujitsu, Lenovo, Samsung, Sony, Toshiba

    And the list goes on. S voice? Siri with a new name. The new Dell laptops? Repackaged MacBooks.

    Let's just imagine the next feature that Apple puts on their new phone, that nobody has today. Shortly after Apple does it, everyone else starts doing it.

    ...why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoleo View Post
    There isn't any consumer electronics company left who hasn't tried to make their own iPhone, iPad or MacBook.

    Acer, ASUS, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Fujitsu, Lenovo, Samsung, Sony, Toshiba

    And the list goes on. S voice? Siri with a new name. The new Dell laptops? Repackaged MacBooks.

    Let's just imagine the next feature that Apple puts on their new phone, that nobody has today. Shortly after Apple does it, everyone else starts doing it.

    ...why?
    Slow down a minute. Apple steals ideas just like everyone else. They're just better at it. I'm not knocking Apple, i'm praising them. Steve Jobs was a marketing genius, but not every idea that he came up with, was his. When you have the kind of money that Apple has, you can beat anyone in a courtroom. This is just my opinion, however.
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    Agreed. Apple will continue to dominate and consume the market across all segments. Phones, tablets, computers, home media devices. Apple will continue to grow and control these markets.
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    As I said in your other thread "Actually it goes both ways. Companies borrow ideas from Apple and Apple borrows ideas from other companies. Siri existed long before Apple purchased them and features such as dictation and notification center were available on other platforms long before Apple brought them to iOS. I'm not trying to troll your thread but one must realize that Apple is not completely innocent in this process as well. "


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    I mean go to Dell.com, HP.com, it's depressing. Their line up is Apple knock offs. Plain and simple. Even Microsoft tailored their entire business to make it more Apple-like. By 2020, it will be either Apple or inspired-by-Apple. Edit: Actually, no, it's ready that. By 2020, it will be just Apple and nothing else.









    People say that Apple copies designs, when it's hard to have evidence to support it. They say that Apple didn't invent this or that, true. They didn't invent them. They reinvented them. They reinvented them to the point where they basically invented them. There have never been devices similar to Apple devices.

    Just watch when the iPhone 5 comes out. The other companies are going to try to make one of their own. Monkey see monkey do.
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    It boils down to image. Apple is top dawg in that department right now just as others before it. Back in the day, there were IBM machines vs IBM clones and despite the fact the many of the clones were superior to the actual IBM machines as well as cheaper, you were frowned upon for not getting an IBM. Now it's Apple vs non-Apple devices. Non-Apple devices may offer more and are somewhat cheaper than Apple devices and yet, there are some who view you as second-class or not financially stable enough if you don't own an Apple.


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    That last part. That's because no other company but Apple makes good products themselves. They can only do what Apple does after Apple does it. Monkey see monkey do.

    Apple said they couldn't provide technology for the entire world, but they are doing exactly that. Soon, there will be only one thing you can buy. Apple.

    Microsoft, DELL, HP, AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, Sony, Nintendo, Samsung, their businesses are toppling like dominoes. What. is. going. on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoleo View Post
    That last part. That's because no other company but Apple makes good products themselves. They can only do what Apple does after Apple does it. Monkey see monkey do.
    C'mon, motoleo, you don't really believe that any technological gadget not made by or for Apple is a piece of junk.

    Apple said they couldn't provide technology for the entire world, but they are doing exactly that. Soon, there will be only one thing you can buy. Apple.
    I doubt that. History has shown that if you legally take away choice, an illegal one will surface.

    Microsoft, DELL, HP, AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, Sony, Nintendo, Samsung, their businesses are toppling like dominoes. What. is. going. on?
    Apple is not the sole reason for the financial hardships of the aforementioned companies. Bad investments, lack of creativity, the economy and lack of leadership are a few reasons that come to mind.

    Anyway, you're very good at creating conversation and playing devil's advocate. Take care and enjoy the rest of your weekend.




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    These are outright blatant carbon copies, It's disgusting. What's going to happen to these companies if they keep doing this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoleo View Post
    These are outright blatant carbon copies, It's disgusting. What's going to happen to these companies if they keep doing this?
    Maybe they'll all start charging $2000 for their cell phones, too. SMH. #dontfeedthetrolls
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    Ohhh, I get that reference, but seriously, I go to buy a Dell Laptop and they end up looking like MacBooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoleo View Post
    These are outright blatant carbon copies, It's disgusting. What's going to happen to these companies if they keep doing this?
    Absolutely nothing. It's called competition for a reason.
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    They will disappear.

    Look at Dell's stock.

    The HP TouchPad failed.

    The Playbook failed.

    Windows 8 will fail.

    Apple will eradicate Android.

    They are already planning on buying out Best Buy.

    Blackberry is on their last legs.

    With did Dell have to replace their own line with Mac books, I don't WANT an island keyboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoleo View Post
    They will disappear.

    Look at Dell's stock.

    The HP TouchPad failed.

    The Playbook failed.

    Windows 8 will fail.

    Apple will eradicate Android.

    They are already planning on buying out Best Buy.

    Blackberry is on their last legs.

    With did Dell have to replace their own line with Mac books, I don't WANT an island keyboard.
    What the hell are you smoking? Android will be eradicated? Android has majority of the market a simple search can show you that. Not EVERY company has to be as successful as Apple to e a good company. Yes, Apple is successful but there are hundreds of flaws that come with it, like it's restrictions and limitations of iOS and it's products. It took Apple 4 generations of phones to get a flash where as my old LG xenon phone had it since day one. I happen to think Dell has better products and warranties than Apple products. My whole family has used Dell for over 10 years and not once have we received any inconvenience when we use our warranty of purchase another product. Put down the kool aid and look around before making up stupid crap like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharma15 View Post
    What the hell are you smoking? Android will be eradicated? Android has majority of the market a simple search can show you that. Not EVERY company has to be as successful as Apple to e a good company. Yes, Apple is successful but there are hundreds of flaws that come with it, like it's restrictions and limitations of iOS and it's products. It took Apple 4 generations of phones to get a flash where as my old LG xenon phone had it since day one. I happen to think Dell has better products and warranties than Apple products. My whole family has used Dell for over 10 years and not once have we received any inconvenience when we use our warranty of purchase another product. Put down the kool aid and look around before making up stupid crap like this.
    Apple is just going to sue, sue, sue until Android is shutdown. You could run a business making knock off products from another product, but that comes with less security. Samsung just keeps getting their devices blocked and I supposed they don't get tired of it, but they're always going to be considered as the generic version of the iPhone.

    Same with everything else. You have Apple. And then you have the generic version of Apple. That's what the market is today. Every new product not made by Apple has to go through the Apple-filter.

    Let's say Apple starts making their phones round instead of rectangles. Next thing you know, everyone has to start selling round phones. The companies collectively decided, "Nothing I do works, so I'll just wait for the whatever Apple does and then copy it, that way I can't lose."

    Same with video game consoles. They have to have "iPads" to go with them. Handheld videogames have to have "touchscreens" ... Console games have to have "casual gaming" and "retina graphics".

    The market is a circus. And Apple is the ring leader. Apple has every other company tamed.
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    Please pass me whatever Motoleo is smoking. Must be some really good mind-altering, reality-distorting stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradocks View Post
    Please pass me whatever Motoleo is smoking. Must be some really good mind-altering, reality-distorting stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharma15 View Post
    That's why I hate opinions, because everyone, no matter how stupid, has one.
    If you hate opinions why do you post or visit public forums like this one, as that is mostly what a forum is made up of.
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    This whole thread is really funny. Thanks for the good laugh motoleo. It's just like a typical blinders-on iFan that refuses to believe there are other companies out there with great products that aren't just trying to be like Apple. As much as I dislike Dell for varying reasons, they don't aspire to be Apple. Just search for Optiplex, Poweredge, thin clients, printing, networking, etc. Dell does all of that. Does Apple? Nope. How about HP? Have you read anything about their Gen8 Proliant servers? Would Apple even have the skills to build an enterprise class virtualized server and storage environment for business-critical applications? Nope. How about Samsung? Do you really mean to imply the Galaxy S3 is a copy or imitation of the iphone? Yeah, other than being a full touchscreen, they have almost nothing in common. Oh wait, they both come in white. Yeah, Apple will probably sue over that too. Android? More worldwide Android activations per day than any other platform.

    There's nothing wrong with loving the devices/platforms that fit you best, but don't be so blinded to believe it is the best or most preferred for/by every user.

    By the way, Lenovo has over 8 different laptop types to fit every type of end user, whether large enterprise, smb, government, education, healthcare, etc. Apple thinks every type of end user should mold themselves to fit the minimal number of laptop types Apple makes. Some companies try to make what their consumers ask for. Others just make what they want and expect others to just want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Rose View Post
    If you hate opinions why do you post or visit public forums like this one, as that is mostly what a forum is made up of.
    It's a joke... I don't actually hate opinions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjjb0204 View Post
    This whole thread is really funny. Thanks for the good laugh motoleo. It's just like a typical blinders-on iFan that refuses to believe there are other companies out there with great products that aren't just trying to be like Apple. [snip]

    There's nothing wrong with loving the devices/platforms that fit you best, but don't be so blinded to believe it is the best or most preferred for/by every user.
    Every single person who has a particular brand of cell phone believes theirs is the best. If you're on CrackBerry forums, you believe your BB is the best and can run circles around Android an iPhone. Here, iPhone is the best. Over at Android central, Androids rule the roost.

    Point is, it's not just 'iFans' who are rabid when it comes to their device choices. IMO, the folks over at Crackberry are worse than any iFan here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobodyListensToLaura View Post
    Every single person who has a particular brand of cell phone believes theirs is the best. If you're on CrackBerry forums, you believe your BB is the best and can run circles around Android an iPhone. Here, iPhone is the best. Over at Android central, Androids rule the roost.

    Point is, it's not just 'iFans' who are rabid when it comes to their device choices. IMO, the folks over at Crackberry are worse than any iFan here.
    I agree to some extent, but for me, I would never say mine is the best for everyone. It's the best for ME and I recognize that everyone may have different needs and wants that make other platforms the best for them. I can see benefits to every mobile platform that may be more important for certain users. Apple - ease of use, seamless interoperability with other Apple products. Android - massive customization choices and tweaking. BlackBerry - extreme work efficiency and productivity but very little fun.

    Use what's best for you and respect that others may have different needs and wants in a mobile phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayz336 View Post
    As I said in your other thread "Actually it goes both ways. Companies borrow ideas from Apple and Apple borrows ideas from other companies. Siri existed long before Apple purchased them and features such as dictation and notification center were available on other platforms long before Apple brought them to iOS. I'm not trying to troll your thread but one must realize that Apple is not completely innocent in this process as well. "


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    If people dont understand that your comment is not trolling then they may have genuinely misunderstood you or their simply ignorant as well as arrogant and plain out stupid. Some people look to apple as the Technological Messiah here to save us but i just see them as another company who will occupy the throne until there time has come. If they cannot truly "innovate" then they will crumble and disappear as Rim is doing now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharma15 View Post
    That's why I hate opinions, because everyone, no matter how stupid, has one.
    Imore should start a quote of the week series and feature yours. This thought completely sums up this entire thread specifically all of moteloe's reasoning...
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoleo View Post
    There isn't any consumer electronics company left who hasn't tried to make their own iPhone, iPad or MacBook.

    Acer, ASUS, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Fujitsu, Lenovo, Samsung, Sony, Toshiba

    And the list goes on. S voice? Siri with a new name. The new Dell laptops? Repackaged MacBooks.

    Let's just imagine the next feature that Apple puts on their new phone, that nobody has today. Shortly after Apple does it, everyone else starts doing it.

    ...why?
    First off no they won't. Second if i was a betting man i'd bet Apple won't have half of the smartphone market let alone "the entire" market.

    Now let me be clear. I'm not an Apple fanboy. But i love ipods and this is my first iphone. And my next phone will be an iphone unless IOS 6 so drastically alters IOS that it ruins what i love. Not only that i utterly respect the commitment to excellence that Jobs has displayed in the direction he's sent apple in the last 15 years. I was a long time Apple stockholder and have never lost money on it. that said i use PCs. So i'm neither an apple fanboy or a apple hater.

    But the OP is ridiculous. first off nobody knows squat that's gonna happent in 8 years. Second the whole apple did it first crap is largely wrong and the exact crap people caught up in stupid childish OS wars say. First off Apple is rarely first. What makes Apple exceptional is that they are simply better. They may not be the first hard drive music player but they made the best one. They weren't the first touchscreen phone but they raised the bar. And even then in most cases they don't hold "the entire" market. Not only that being great doesn't mean you dominate. OSX may be nicer looking and better then Windows but Windows dominates the user base. Hell the iphone may not be the most speced out best phone but it does well. That said its not exactly the only phone in existence in it's class. And take Siri. It's great. But Android had voice activated navigation and Apple is only in beta with it. Google had maps before Apple did. I think Google released google music before icloud did. Removable batteries? SD cards? They still haven't come yet. First with cut and paste? I doubt it. So i don't think they'll have any market entirely, it's too far out to make real predictions, and even if you could being first isn't a predictor of success at much in the smartphone space.
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