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    Default Why MUST I have a computer to use the iPad??

    Upon purchasing it I was absolutely thrilled with myself. I immediately stopped at the house, opened up everything...my new Bluetooth keyboard, the iPad, the Knomo case. All of it was useless.

    I could not use the device. I bought it because my iMac wouldn't turn on for some weird reason and here I was unable to use this new device either. I was then forced to have my girlfriend bring her laptop along just so I could connect to iTunes to register the device. Quite frankly, had she not beenable to do it that night I would have returned the iPad.

    Why such absurd requirements exist on Apple devices is beyond me...but I am not convinced I will buy another one of their products for while. As much as I like the iPad, I only bought it because I was in a pinch, but had I had time to consider other devices, and had I known about the annoying setup, I likely would have chosen something else.
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    Yes, this is required to register the device with the Apple database and pretty much let them start controlling you. Like Apple's view is.
    The reason for connecting it is beyond me unless what I just said is true.
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    All of their devises need to be connected to iTunes to boot up or something. When I got my iPod touch I was the same way. I oppened it up and was like !.. :'(( because I needed iTunes and my computer crashed just days before. I didn't know I needed iTunes to start using it. I agree it's a rediculous thing but I wouldn't not buy their products again.
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    I agree, this should change. iPad should be a stand-alone device, but I don't see Apple changing this until iOS and OS X merge because there is no file management like "finder" on an iPad.
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    OMG!!! YOUR RIGHT!!! By plugging the device in and registering it with iTunes there is a special little chip secretly planted in your head to control you! It all makes sense now!

    Get a life. Who knows why it's like that and it does suck but life moves on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by @j_nathaniel View Post
    Upon purchasing it I was absolutely thrilled with myself. I immediately stopped at the house, opened up everything...my new Bluetooth keyboard, the iPad, the Knomo case. All of it was useless.

    I could not use the device. I bought it because my iMac wouldn't turn on for some weird reason and here I was unable to use this new device either. I was then forced to have my girlfriend bring her laptop along just so I could connect to iTunes to register the device. Quite frankly, had she not beenable to do it that night I would have returned the iPad.

    Why such absurd requirements exist on Apple devices is beyond me...but I am not convinced I will buy another one of their products for while. As much as I like the iPad, I only bought it because I was in a pinch, but had I had time to consider other devices, and had I known about the annoying setup, I likely would have chosen something else.
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    When I bought my iPad from the apple store, they registered it there so I could start using it right away. I thought that was pretty cool. I'm assuming the OP didn't go to a apple store...
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    I actually just bought everything and left. Being that I no longer had a working computer to use I needed something fast. I figured with all of the iPad hype (and it IS a very good device...I am typing this on it right now) it would do the job immediately. It was a very bad start but has since smoothed out. I don't see any reason for me not to be able to register the device directly through the 3G connection or when connected to Wifi. It just really frustrated me...

    I still like the iPad. It sees more use than my laptops ever did because it lasts longer between charges and turns on instantly. It almost lost the chance for me to see it shine due to a simple-headed registration requirement.
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    I'm sorry I'm not trying to sound like a jerk and I'm not defending Apple just because, you simply have to give credit where credit is due. The iPad has been out for how long now? The 2nd gen is about to be released pretty soon. The point is that it is full knowledge the iPad needs to be connected to get going initially. So you pretty much sound like you're blaming the device because you didn't do your homework. It is an auxiliary device right now depending on the user's needs and it isn't and never will be a netbook. So if that is what you were looking for the Macbook Air would have been more up your alley. In my opinion I think what alot of other devices lack is actually the software to connect to and configure, sync things, etc like iTunes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ipheuria View Post
    I'm sorry I'm not trying to sound like a jerk and I'm not defending Apple just because, you simply have to give credit where credit is due. The iPad has been out for how long now? The 2nd gen is about to be released pretty soon. The point is that it is full knowledge the iPad needs to be connected to get going initially. So you pretty much sound like you're blaming the device because you didn't do your homework. It is an auxiliary device right now depending on the user's needs and it isn't and never will be a netbook. So if that is what you were looking for the Macbook Air would have been more up your alley. In my opinion I think what alot of other devices lack is actually the software to connect to and configure, sync things, etc like iTunes.
    Well lets be honest here. Someone who never owned an iPad, or even any "iDevice" would not even think " oh I should check to see if I need to hook it up to a computer before I can use it" Not everyone is tech savy or knows everything about Apple products.
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    OP is right, it's a fancy jumbo iPhone as long as it's tied to another computer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sting7k View Post
    OP is right, it's a fancy jumbo iPhone as long as it's tied to another computer.
    More like a jumbo iPod Touch... since there's no camera or phone capabilities (save audio-only Skype)... or, as my son says, his iPod Touch is actually an iPad Nano...
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    Exactly what I've said since day one. And one of the [many] reasons I got rid of the iPad I won after less than a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGonzales90 View Post
    Well lets be honest here. Someone who never owned an iPad, or even any "iDevice" would not even think " oh I should check to see if I need to hook it up to a computer before I can use it" Not everyone is tech savy or knows everything about Apple products.
    Yeah, but any smart shopper who is going to spend $500+ on something should do a little product research....one google search would have yielded what the OP is most frustrated about....
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    Quote Originally Posted by touchyphone View Post
    Yeah, but any smart shopper who is going to spend $500+ on something should do a little product research....one google search would have yielded what the OP is most frustrated about....
    again, some one who never owned an iDevice before is not going to think of having to hook it up to a computer. I know I didn't when I got my first iPod touch back in 2007. I thought it was going to be much like the rest of the iPods, just turn it on and it will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGonzales90 View Post
    again, some one who never owned an iDevice before is not going to think of having to hook it up to a computer. I know I didn't when I got my first iPod touch back in 2007. I thought it was going to be much like the rest of the iPods, just turn it on and it will work.
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    The iPhone as well as the iPod Touch which needs to be connected to a computer has been out for three years by the time the OP bought his iPad. So I find it very hard to beleive someone couldn't easily figure or find out that it would need to be connected to a computer. Also to go beyond the tech savvy when I buy a $500-1000 item like a DSLR, iPad,even a winter beater. I lookup the item to see reviews, what other people think or the problems. Anyway the point is not whether it's easy to find out if it needs to be connected my issue was that the OP was blaming Apple for a device that is doing what it was made to do. I wouldn't buy an HD TV expecting all my channels to show in HD because of the TV and then blame Sony because I didn't buy a digital box to get HD programming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ipheuria View Post
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    The iPhone as well as the iPod Touch which needs to be connected to a computer has been out for three years by the time the OP bought his iPad. So I find it very hard to beleive someone couldn't easily figure or find out that it would need to be connected to a computer. Also to go beyond the tech savvy when I buy a $500-1000 item like a DSLR, iPad,even a winter beater. I lookup the item to see reviews, what other people think or the problems. Anyway the point is not whether it's easy to find out if it needs to be connected my issue was that the OP was blaming Apple for a device that is doing what it was made to do. I wouldn't buy an HD TV expecting all my channels to show in HD because of the TV and then blame Sony because I didn't buy a digital box to get HD programming.
    I remember as a kid getting mad when the promo said {whatever show it was} "in living color"... and all I could get on our 20 b&w Zenith was a b&w picture...


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    Let me start by saying, this isn't meant to be mean....

    When spending $500, $600, $700 on an electronic device, you have to ask questions, do research, etc. ONE simple question would have alleviated all your frustration...."How Do I Set This Up When I Get Home"...

    One doesn't need to be "tech savvy" to ask questions of your sales rep.

    It's common knowledge that Apple created iTunes, right? I don't even understand how someone can purchase a standard iPod (not referring to an iPod Touch) and not know it must be synced on someones computer with a iTunes account? Otherwise you'd have an awesome music device with no music?

    I guess the lesson learned is, ask questions first before you make your final purchase, you can't really blame Apple for this one!

    It's like buying a standard land line telephone and then getting angry because you have to actually pay for a service provider to make it work..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HankAZ View Post
    I remember as a kid getting mad when the promo said {whatever show it was} "in living color"... and all I could get on our 20 b&w Zenith was a b&w picture...
    B/W I can't even remember those TVs lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ipheuria View Post
    B/W I can't even remember those TVs lol
    Yeah, that's the trouble with kids these days... I have shoe laces older than you!

    Scary part is in a few years, THESE will be the "good old days"...
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    "I bought it because my iMac wouldn't turn on for some weird reason..." Really, that's the reason? Man, the iPad should be EXPECTED to let you down or you really didn't use your iMac for much...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HankAZ View Post
    Yeah, that's the trouble with kids these days... I have shoe laces older than you!

    Scary part is in a few years, THESE will be the "good old days"...
    LOL the scary part is in a few years kids will be like You watched non HD, 2D channels!!!!! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGonzales90 View Post
    again, some one who never owned an iDevice before is not going to think of having to hook it up to a computer. I know I didn't when I got my first iPod touch back in 2007. I thought it was going to be much like the rest of the iPods, just turn it on and it will work.
    No, you're not getting it. it's not about owning an iDevice before. It's about wanting a product, any product that your spending 100's of dollars on, and not at least searching prior to gain any knowledge on the product. You just buy 100's of dollars worth of kit on a whim? no research? you sound like a smart guy, I am sure you do...

    Had the OP just spent 5 min, looking into the device prior to purchasing, this thread wouldn't exist...
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    Quote Originally Posted by touchyphone View Post
    No, you're not getting it. it's not about owning an iDevice before. It's about wanting a product, any product that your spending 100's of dollars on, and not at least searching prior to gain any knowledge on the product. You just buy 100's of dollars worth of kit on a whim? no research? you sound like a smart guy, I am sure you do...

    Had the OP just spent 5 min, looking into the device prior to purchasing, this thread wouldn't exist...
    while you are correct YOU are NOT getting what I'm talking about. No one is gonna think "oh I need to see if I need to connect this to a computer before I start using it" Only if you are an Apple fan. Not a every day general consumer. (the ones who dont spend their online life on tech sites) Its easy for you to say that because you like Apple and already know about the iPad. He did not. Theres a HUGE difference.
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    I'm still asking myself why oh why didn't the OP take his iMac in and ask why it wouldn't turn on????? Once again I stand by my original comment, when spending hundreds of dollars on anything electronic, there's no need to spend hours on tech sites, simply ask, how do I set it up once it's out of the box!
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