1. HAWK's Avatar
    $90,000? I didn't think they were that high. Last I checked here in the states a Ford King ranch with all the options runs at about $60-70,000. My dad is in the market for a new diesel one ton atm, but I haven't asked him what kind of prices he coming up with.


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    Ha! My Dodge Ram 3500 was 88,000 here in Canada. My wife's ram 1500 was 56,000


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    12-09-2014 07:38 PM
  2. Smply_Rcklss's Avatar
    Apple never marketed the 5C as a cheap iPhone. The tech media tried to do that. It was $100 less than the 5S and only came in 16 and 32GB versions while the 5S has a 64GB version available.
    That's what I was saying. I kinda figured it wasn't a budget friendly iPhone. Why was it $100 less than the 5s ? Storage capacity options & the plastic frame instead of the aluminum ?
    12-09-2014 07:39 PM
  3. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Ha! My Dodge Ram 3500 was 88,000 here in Canada


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    Ouch! His current truck is a 01 Dodge Ram 2500 cumins 24 valve diesel high output. He bought it back in 02, and I believe he paid like $30,000 for it! Lol prices sure have gone up!
    And I thought I was hurting when I spent $7k on my Jetta LOL

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    12-09-2014 07:40 PM
  4. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    That's what I was saying. I kinda figured it wasn't a budget friendly iPhone. Why was it $100 less than the 5s ?
    Because it was an iPhone 5 in a new shell, and the iPhone 5 would have been $100 less than the 5S.


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    12-09-2014 07:41 PM
  5. Smply_Rcklss's Avatar
    Because it was an iPhone 5 in a new shell, and the iPhone 5 would have been $100 less than the 5S.


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    I see, that's Idk, I'd rather just buy the 5 instead then. It seems kinda pointless that the 5c was introduced to the public.
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    12-09-2014 07:44 PM
  6. HAWK's Avatar
    Ouch! His current truck is a 01 Dodge Ram 2500 cumins 24 valve diesel high output. He bought it back in 02, and I believe he paid like $30,000 for it! Lol prices sure have gone up!
    And I thought I was hurting when I spent $7k on my Jetta LOL

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    12-09-2014 07:45 PM
  7. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    I see, that's Idk, I'd rather just buy the 5 instead then. It seems kinda pointless that the 5c was introduced to the public.
    I think it was a good idea. Instead of just offering the same phone from the year before for a lower price, they offered it in a new package, with some minor tweaks, so the same lower price.


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    12-09-2014 07:46 PM
  8. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I see, that's Idk, I'd rather just buy the 5 instead then. It seems kinda pointless that the 5c was introduced to the public.
    It was Apple's way of trying to cut costs by adding the plastic shell.

    The cost cutting that the OP is suggesting Apple should make again for no reason.
    12-09-2014 07:47 PM
  9. Les74's Avatar
    Because it was an iPhone 5 in a new shell, and the iPhone 5 would have been $100 less than the 5S.


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    iPhone 5 in a new shell? I was always under the understanding that the 5c was the 5s without the fingerprint scanner.
    12-09-2014 07:47 PM
  10. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    iPhone 5 in a new shell? I was always under the understanding that the 5c was the 5s without the fingerprint scanner.
    No. It used the processor and camera of the 5 but the LTE radio was better than the 5
    12-09-2014 07:49 PM
  11. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    iPhone 5 in a new shell? I was always under the understanding that the 5c was the 5s without the fingerprint scanner.
    Nope. It has the A6, same logic board, same rear camera and pretty much all the some components except it has an improved front facing camera, supports more LTE bands, and I believe it might have a slightly larger battery.


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    12-09-2014 07:49 PM
  12. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Slightly better prices in the states on eBay(new):




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    12-09-2014 07:51 PM
  13. HAWK's Avatar
    Why are you comparing two different vehicles? A diesel truck and car may have 4 wheels but are two different classes.

    And I specifically said a luxury car is luxury because it is more expensive than your average normal car.
    An iPhone and any other phone may have a power button and a touch screen, but they are in two different classes


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    12-09-2014 07:52 PM
  14. HAWK's Avatar
    Slightly better prices in the states on eBay(new):

    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...09e0b20125.jpg


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    Wow nice.... Mind you most of the population doesn't make over a hundred grand a year there either. Different area, different economy I guess


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    12-09-2014 07:53 PM
  15. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Neither was I, but several posts in this thread have been very rude towards me. I guess I have to let it go though is what you are saying.
    No, my reply had nothing to do with statements prior to the one I mentioned. Having said that, try to take at least a little bit of responsibility for some of the replies you've gotten. You have people here with a lot more life experience than you, and when some of them try to explain certain things to you or point out flaws in your argument/statements, you appear to try to justify your statement to save face instead of gaining knowledge from the wisdom of others. You think that Apple should make a low cost phone and take advantage of a certain segment. We all know that Apple could, but some of us have explained why they don't have to and why they shouldn't. You've mentioned "third world countries" on numerous occasions and equated it with being poor, yet, everyone who lives in what you refer to as third world countries aren't poor at all. It can be argued that you view the iPhone and/or the Apple brand as a status symbol and maybe you think it's a good idea for everyone to enjoy that status symbol and not feel left out. If so, that's admirable, but impractical. First of all, not everyone wants an iPhone. I'd even argue that many who do not yet have a smartphone would simply be glad to have one, regardless of the brand. Anyway, my apologies for rambling. I'm literally dosing off. That's how tired I am.......Anyway, as always, I enjoy the replies. Take care.
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    12-09-2014 07:54 PM
  16. Les74's Avatar
    Nope. It has the A6, same logic board, same rear camera and pretty much all the some components except it has an improved front facing camera, supports more LTE bands, and I believe it might have a slightly larger battery.


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    Interesting....and, in that case, what was the point of selling it? In hindsight, it made a ton of money, but I just don't get it.
    12-09-2014 07:55 PM
  17. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    Wow nice.... Mind you most of the population doesn't make over a hundred grand a year there either. Different area, different economy I guess


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    Yeah. Must be nice to work in the money oozing oil and gas industry I plan on going up to South Dakota during the summer while I'm in college and cashing in


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    12-09-2014 07:55 PM
  18. Smply_Rcklss's Avatar
    I think it was a good idea. Instead of just offering the same phone from the year before for a lower price, they offered it in a new package, with some minor tweaks, so the same lower price.


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    Ohhh, okay. Yeah, I thought it was also just a different variant of the iPhone 5, but without touch ID & a plastic outterbody. I always thought it had the same specs as the 5s, but they cut the cost down because it was plastic. Makes sense though.
    12-09-2014 07:56 PM
  19. HAWK's Avatar
    No, my reply had nothing to do with statements prior to the one I mentioned. Having said that, try to take at least a little bit of responsibility for some of the replies you've gotten. You have people here with a lot more life experience than you, and when some of them try to explain certain things to you or point out flaws in your argument/statements, you appear to try to justify your statement to save face instead of gaining knowledge from the wisdom of others. You think that Apple should make a low cost phone and take advantage of a certain segment. We all know that Apple could, but some of us explained why they don't have to and why they shouldn't. You've mentioned "third world countries" on numerous occasions and equated it with being poor, yet, everyone who lives in what you refer to as third world countries aren't poor at all. It can be argued that you view the iPhone and/or the Apple brand as a status symbol and maybe you think it's a good idea for everyone to enjoy that status symbol and not feel left out. If so, that's admirable, but impractical. First of all, not everyone wants an iPhone. I'd even argue that many who do not yet have a smartphone would simply be glad to have one, regardless of the brand. Anyway, my apologies for rambling. I'm literally dosing off. That's how tired I am.......Anyway, as always, I enjoy the replies. Take care.
    Well said d


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    12-09-2014 07:57 PM
  20. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure sure you would see many more people holding an iPhone than driving a Lexus. I really don't see how the iPhone is any more "luxurious" than; for example, the m8 or the note 4 (note 4 is more expensive in my country). They all just seem like high end premium flagships to me. Apple's brand image to me is about high quality products. Nothing luxurious about them IMO.
    It's weird...the only people who keep saying that are you and the 20 year old world traveling business tycoon. I certainly never said anything remotely close to that, nor do I think they are more luxurious than those phones...those phones are also luxury items, but the companies that make the aren't because they cover the broad spectrum of devices from cheap to high end...they have luxury devices, but are not luxury brands. Chevrolet makes some really nice cars that rival luxury brands, but they are not a luxury brand...Cadillac is Chevy's luxury brand, and they do not make cheap, economy cars. Why? It would degrade the brand.

    As far as more iPhones than Lexus', that's not really a surprise...the iPhone is far more obtainable due to the relative cost of smart phones vs. automobiles, and can be used by a broader spectrum of consumer (even if a 10-15 year old wanted to drive a Lexus and had the means to get one, they couldn't in most parts of the world because of legalities amongst a dozen other limitations vehicles have).
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    12-09-2014 08:00 PM
  21. A895's Avatar
    Dude, you do realize you just validated Sean's statement about the iPhone being more expensive than average phones. Beside, be careful with your use of "not expensive at all" because there are a good deal of people here in the U.S., especially those who are out of work and struggling, who would disagree with you in that regard.
    It isn't luxury price that is my point. A point everyone keeps skipping over. Most of this thread has been arguing semantics and how Apple is luxury as it was just said and proved that iPhones aren't luxury. Because they are not real luxury, they are a consumer brand, so doing a low cost iPhone would not hurt a tech brand.

    If anything the media and mass consumers will hail this as Apple revolutionizing low end.
    12-09-2014 08:01 PM
  22. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    It's weird...the only people who keep saying that are you and the 20 year old world traveling business tycoon. I certainly never said anything remotely close to that, nor do I think they are more luxurious than those phones...those phones are also luxury items, but the companies that make the aren't because they cover the broad spectrum of devices from cheap to high end...they have luxury devices, but are not luxury brands. Chevrolet makes some really nice cars that rival luxury brands, but they are not a luxury brand...Cadillac is Chevy's luxury brand, and they do not make cheap, economy cars. Why? It would degrade the brand.

    As far as more iPhones than Lexus', that's not really a surprise...the iPhone is far more obtainable due to the relative cost of smart phones vs. automobiles, and can be used by a broader spectrum of consumer (even if a 10-15 year old wanted to drive a Lexus and had the means to get one, they couldn't in most parts of the world because of legalities amongst a dozen other limitations vehicles have).
    And anyone can save for a few months and set back $650. Not so much for a luxury car.


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    12-09-2014 08:02 PM
  23. A895's Avatar
    An iPhone and any other phone may have a power button and a touch screen, but they are in two different classes


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    By your own personal definition it may be, but an iPhone is just another high end smartphone.
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    12-09-2014 08:03 PM
  24. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    It isn't luxury price that is my point. A point everyone keeps skipping over. Most of this thread has been arguing semantics and how Apple is luxury as it was just said and proved that iPhones aren't luxury. Because they are not real luxury, they are a consumer brand, so doing a low cost iPhone would not hurt a tech brand.

    If anything the media and mass consumers will hail this as Apple revolutionizing low end.
    Okay. You made your point.

    Going to close this for a cool down. We keep going in circles and we're nearing the black hole.
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    12-09-2014 08:03 PM
  25. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    It isn't luxury price that is my point. A point everyone keeps skipping over. Most of this thread has been arguing semantics and how Apple is luxury as it was just said and proved that iPhones aren't luxury. Because they are not real luxury, they are a consumer brand, so doing a low cost iPhone would not hurt a tech brand.

    If anything the media and mass consumers will hail this as Apple revolutionizing low end.
    The Apple brand is considered high end. Period. That doesn't mean it's the best there is. It simply means that it is viewed as high end. Some people will equate high end with luxury. The price of a Hyundai Sonata limited 2.0T is comparable to that of a BMW 328i, yet, the BMW is considered high end / luxury and although the the Note 4, as you've mentioned, cost more than an iPhone, the iPhone is still considered the high end / luxury item in comparison of the two. "Real" has nothing to do with it. Would your view change if Apple bought HTC and then sold the HTC One as its low end device to those "third world countries"?
    12-09-2014 08:12 PM
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