- 07-12-2012, 09:52 PM #51
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- 07-13-2012, 12:05 AM #53
Oh, this is gonna be fun!
Human nature. I get something I like. Someone says : "Hey that's crap, look what I got here, I can do this and that and you don't". I get pissed. I reunite with people who bought the same device I have, and there I feel safe to wage a war against users of the other device. We hate to see somebody else having something we don't and enjoy himself.
French thinker René Girard argued that the fundation of society lays in archaic rituals of sacrifice. His theory relies on the idea that desire is not autonomous : it always imitates the desire of another person for an object, "mimetic desire". Thus a rivalry is created, that culminates quickly while the original object of mimetic desire is replaced by the generalized mimetism of antagonism itself - as every single soul of the tribe starts feuds of his own. With such a murderous tension hanging over, a single individual exhibiting the most frivolous difference from the rest of the tribe would suffice to trigger retaliation. The "marginal" would become the designed object of general antogonism, and the "scapegoat mechanism" would set itself into place. The sacrifice would release the tension, reunite the tribe, and thus society would evolve towards a new state, where the same pattern would begin again. What am I talking about? Read this post from the beginning : "pissy Apple users", "militant Android users", reuniting upon the sacrifice of BB users. I'm not judging anyone, I'm just about the same. But stop and take a look at the archaic being inside all of us, with advanced technology at hand. Stanley Kubrick's most spectacular ellipsis of all times, anyone?
There's that new guy where I work... electronics store sporting "Some Canadian Carrier" kiosque and selling smartphones on contract. He's all about Android, that guy. Went on and on for a month about the (then) upcoming Samsung SIII. Finally got it. The point is not that he's not thrilled with it. The point is the first week he took to "master" the device. Hilarious. Guy's been playing with Android for the past five years, and he was at a total lost regarding some functions. Hell, "Some Canadian Carrier" even offered a webinar highlighting and explaining the main features, and three different e-trainings, and some article with "easy steps" on how to introduce the SIII to a potential customer. Thing is, I outdid him in the three tests we had to take, both in time and score, and I don't even care about the device. Put it to his face. Never gonna let him forget that, for all his bragging beforehand, and it's all the more easy when every day I can see him fidgeting with it, not knowing how to fully optimize all those rocking features for his personal use... I'm not saying this is the case of any Android user, but there's some truth in that story, on certain levels.
And then there's my friend... always had a BB, always was all about PC, always hated Apple. Not the angry or militant type though, just confident in his choices... and hating Apple. Spent the day with him a couple of months ago. He had just bought the New iPad... So it was with some perverse pleasure that I said : "Well I thought you would go for a BB on this one, I heard they were going to open their market and everything...". And he answered straight : "They didn't open sweet f*** all. iPad rulz!" Still as confident, but now loving Apple.
Personnally, I don't really care what device the others are using, though I love to chat with other iPhone owners. I never had a BB, nor an Android, and I won't judge. But there's that ape inside of me that roars and inflates his chest when I see some non-Apple user's demise. I'm none the better than anyone else. Human nature...
- 07-13-2012, 05:32 AM #54
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- 07-13-2012, 09:38 AM #58
Sad part was a year ago, I hated Apple. I was content with my Storm2 and it's shortcomings about the lack of support, no apps and freezing/bricking. Then the ex got an iPhone and I helped him set it up. My eyes then were opened to the glory that was Apple and how amazing the iPhone really was.
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- 07-14-2012, 02:41 PM #64
congrats vietalogy - so how do you like it so far? the S3 has intrigued me to want to go look at it in VzW to see what its like. I think you have to adjust to the bigger screen, i'd actually like the larger size of the phone-things like that dont really bother me.
its funny to hear you guys talk OS's, lol. Jellybean, ice cream sandwich....sounds yummy LOL
- 07-14-2012, 04:10 PM #65
I have to much $ and accessories into apple so I think I'm sticking with apple for now.
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- 07-14-2012, 06:26 PM #66
- 07-14-2012, 10:42 PM #67
I've been up down and sideways in the smartphone era. Had an OG iPhone (on tmo to) a Palm Pre (yep that one) then an Evo4G. Now I'm on a Gnex with Jelly Bean. All I want is a good experience. Most of the people on all sides want that. You will always have Fanaticism from some.
What has gotten many on the Android side so roiled of late is to the lengths Apple is going to to stop Google. If it was a head on fight with Google people would be understanding. With their tendency to go after the OEM's who have a harder time defending themselves it looks like bully tactics 101. That and the tack that Apple will if given the opportunity Patent anything not nailed down. Is just putting more vinegar in the mix.
Maybe once Apple gets Good Bloody nose in court they may rethink their strategy.
I can hope.
- 07-14-2012, 11:50 PM #68
- 07-15-2012, 08:47 AM #69
Android fanboys are drinking the kool-aid just as much as the Apple fanboys. I like both platforms, but when the Android fanboys start going above and beyond the products and start talking about "openess" and "choice", that's when they are getting ridiculous. Google and the phone makers are companies, just like Apple. They're in it to make money and to control the market. Both of them. So don't wax on about open source when the Android camp are throwing in locked bootloaders. Apple discourages jailbreaking too. Or how about preferential treatment for nexus devices? Don't tell me it's freedom when the OS is updated twice a year and the powers that do their best to limit it to the new phones to boost sales to keep Android in the news. And don't tell me Android is "all about choice" by forcing the consumer to either root & install a ROM to get the next update or buy a new phone. Apple is guilty of all of this too by limiting the features of the next OS on older phones- time and time again it's been shown that some of the new features can run on older hardware.
All of this sounds horrible, but when you throw in a bit of the hacker marketing magic and get the Android crowd to chant "root... root... root" as the solution to all of Android ills, it's now OK. The original Droid ads really set the tone for Android fanboys and pit them against the iPhone. It was a great bit of advertising that caught the public's attention. It's all about business, the masses here and on android forums don't get that.
Anybody who is a militant Android fanboy or a holier than thou iPhone fanboy has got suckered in by the marketing divisions at Google or Apple and are too blind to recognize that fact. Like the platform for what it is, not what it represents.
- 07-15-2012, 03:17 PM #70
Also I agree with who said that most people are just going through the smartphone motions to find an enjoyable experience for them. I've found that with windows phone, but the iPhone opened my eyes to what I wanted out of a phone
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- 07-16-2012, 05:57 AM #71
Out of all the tech blogs I visit on a daily basis, only Android users use the term "fanboy". iPhone users, for the most part, don't give a rats *** what other people use. Android users call everyone else, mostly iPhone users, "fanboys". But they aren't fanboys at all, right?
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- 07-16-2012, 07:42 AM #74
well, at least you gave it a shot to try out - :oin all honesty even if i did want to change platform to the SGS3 or whatever else, i'm like you - i have sooooo many cases for my 4S & charging accessories invested as well, and THB i'm very happy with my 4S for now as well - when i get bored(if that ever happens) THEN i'll worry about if i'm going to move onto another platform
Out of anything negative i've ever heard about android - battery life is one of the consistent things i continually hear. I honestly don't know much about android at all, but i'm guessing because of the larger screens & more notifications avail in the top bar that this could be the reason why ???
My uncle has an HTC 3D something(on sprint), i forgot the name, but when he got the phone he also made sure to get the extended battery for it as well as having a charger avail in his car - he absolutely loves his device!! He's always trying to talk me into one as well, joking around of course - he knows how much i enjoy my iphone
Rose, perhaps you could look into an extended battery or a Mophie if they make one also. But then, finding a case could wind up being a real PITA with an extended battery.
- 07-16-2012, 07:49 AM #75
TBH, anyone using any type of device that is completely brain washed & has tunnel vision of only that manufacturer is going to make rude & negative comments to someone who doesn't use their device type & see things through their eyes on how 'great' it is. I honestly NEVER understood why people get like that - so ok fine android works best for you, and blackberry is best for George & Ashleigh uses an iphone. It all comes down to what fits the users NEEDS in what they want out of their device. If those fainboys/girls, or whatever you want to call them, would finally realize this, i'm sure there would be alot less annimosity between device users (well. we could hope at least lol)