- 07-09-2012, 10:33 AM #51
The only thing that needs to be argued here is whether Trayvon attacked GZimm or not. If he attacked him, then the shooting was justified. If not, then GZimm is guilty. The best way to tell that is of GZimm had the wounds on his body as described. Photos and evidence show he had wounds to the face. That basically proves he was attacked. That gives him the authority to use any means necessary to protect himself under the stand your ground laws. He will be judged not guilty before long and be a free man.
- 07-09-2012, 10:45 AM #52
- 07-09-2012, 07:25 PM #53
^ I'll just wait to see what comes out in the court room as I am not convinced that it actually went down that way since Zimmerman's story hasn't been a consistent one from the start. I can't feel sorry for a guy who purposely went after someone when he was outright told to stay back. However, I do not think it's right and do feel bad that Zimmerman and his family have been receiving death threats, that is just wrong....
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- 07-09-2012, 09:12 PM #54
- 07-09-2012, 09:17 PM #55
- 07-09-2012, 09:48 PM #56
The manual, from the National Neighborhood Watch Program, states: "It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers, and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles. They should also be cautioned to alert police or deputies when encountering strange activity. Members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous." http://gma.yahoo.com/neighborhood-wa...-abc-news.html
He is NOT a cop and therefore should not have acted like one that night. He is the one who put himself in the situation that he is in now and absolutely there should be a trial since he did MURDER someone.
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- 07-09-2012, 09:50 PM #57
- 07-09-2012, 10:07 PM #58
The stand your ground laws specifically state that if you feel "in imminent danger" you have the right to "defend yourself with any necessary force, up to and including deadly force." Whether he was out on business or not, if someone touches him he has the right to fire. So if Trayvon even so much as layed a hand on him, he has the right to shoot.
And he never confronted him. He was following him on the neighborhood sidewalks until he was approached by Trayvon. If he wasn't looking for trouble then he should not have been walking in a hoodie in a fenced neighborhood.
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- 07-09-2012, 10:31 PM #59
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- 07-09-2012, 10:52 PM #60
I vote we let the court system work it out. One way or another it will get resolved and justice as it is, will be served. We will never know the truth but that is our system... I just hope no innocent people get hurt after the outcome whatever it is.
- 07-09-2012, 10:57 PM #61
- 07-09-2012, 11:28 PM #62
There are lots of intricacies to these laws; however, the message is clear and the implementation is pretty standard across all states that have them. You can use any force you are legally allowed to obtain. If you can carry a firearm, you can use if you you are threatened. If you carry a knife, you may use it when threatened.
In this case, GZimm felt threatened and he acted accordingly. We will see what happens in court.
- 07-09-2012, 11:44 PM #63
- 07-13-2012, 11:55 AM #64
- 07-13-2012, 03:22 PM #65
I'm late to the punch here but this is my stance...
Whether he killed that kid legitimately or maliciously, that is for the court to figure out now that it has been placed in their hands, and as a tax paying citizen who enforces law, if it were me, i would want the justice system to properly handle this situation.
Damn the disgusting, and nightmarish media (as usual) for turning this situation into a racial fiasco...and that is EXACTLY what happened. It's the mob mentality...and the media is the one that sparked the fire, kept pouring gas on the fire, and when the fire fizzled, reignited it. Over and over and over again.
It's a nasty practice, but it also shows the gross generalized racism that exists on all sides of the fence in our country now, which is unfortunate, because this proves to be a detriment to getting proper treatment after being convicted of a crime...innocent or not.
- 07-13-2012, 04:19 PM #66
- 07-13-2012, 04:37 PM #67
Just to put this out there too...at one point the NAACP was getting involved by putting money behind the prosecution of this man. I've felt this way for years, but rarely does it so blatantly show its ugly face like this...the NAACP is no different than the KKK in my eyes, because they not only fuel rebel rousing, but they also sway social groups by misdirection, looking beneficial to the black community in one light, but operating as a poison in the shadow.
I've received a lot of flack for this stance over the years...and even did a thesis paper at school reflecting my thoughts on this years ago (with some serious details to back up my claims). You want to see focused bigotry in our society that disguises itself as something pure? Look no further than the NAACP...at least the disgusting practices of the Ku Klux Klan are done wide out and in the open (again, i emphasize my distaste for them as well).
- 07-13-2012, 06:38 PM #68
Just Me, D
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