1. James Falconer's Avatar
    Kind of a sly question here, but I know a lot of folks are a little upset about the Touch Bar. Some I've talked to in fact have said they'd ditch their new Touch Bar MBP for the previous gen. I suspect they're not alone, but I also suspect there are MANY that absolutely love it.

    Would you consider the downgrade, or are you more than happy with the Touch Bar and all of the new features it brings?
    11-21-2016 03:22 PM
  2. jsarino's Avatar
    If I did have a MBP with the Touch Bar, I might consider trading it in for a last gen if there's not much functional 3rd party support out there. I say functional because I want the applications they offer to be valuable time savers, not gimmicks just to make use of the Touch Bar.
    11-21-2016 03:34 PM
  3. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Unfortunately, I am not an owner of the new MacBook Pro, but if I were, I still wouldn't swap it out for an older model, but that's Just Me, D....
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    11-21-2016 04:37 PM
  4. James Falconer's Avatar
    If I did have a MBP with the Touch Bar, I might consider trading it in for a last gen if there's not much functional 3rd party support out there. I say functional because I want the applications they offer to be valuable time savers, not gimmicks just to make use of the Touch Bar.
    Seconded. I really think I'd get heavy use out of it with Photoshop, but can't say for sure. For now, quite happy with my current setup
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    11-23-2016 01:39 PM
  5. MasterDarque's Avatar
    I haven't purchased a new MacBook Pro with touch bar (TB) yet, but I'm definitely considering doing so. As to whether I'd switch out a TB version for a non TB version, I'd have to say no - I really think that the TB will offer up a meaningful additional way of interacting with the computer. A local Best Buy had all three versions of the new MacBooks Pro in: both of the 13" ones (with and without the TB), and the 15" with TB and I was able to try them out. On the TB versions I opened/used both Pages and Safari to get a feel for the keyboard and the TB. The touch bar's context awareness is definitely a thing: without any apps open you're presented with the ESC key and function keys on it, upon opening Safari it switched to offering navigational browser options including a central 'key' (touch area) for entering a web address. Pressing that brought up a dialogue box on the computer screen for inputting a site, among other options IIRC. Also in the TB there was a 'key' for opening a new tab in Safari, then, at another point in Safari on the TB there were icons of sites that you could 'one click/touch' to navigate to, such as Google, Bing, or Facebook, and other sites that were also 'one touch' icons to navigate to (i.e. the 'favorites' section). There were also similar context sensitive/relevant options of the TB when I was using Pages. In my brief time at Best Buy using the new MacBooks Pro I got a sense of the TB's potential and could see how not only is there context awareness and different choices offered up on the TB between apps, but also different choices/options displayed on the TB depending upon where you are in an app and what you're doing at any one time in the app. As far as whether the TB is more/less of a gimmicky feature, or a useful additional method of interacting with the computer - that will be up to Apple, and app developers to work out. Imo though, the potential is certainly there for the TB to be something meaningful (useful).✌️️
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    11-23-2016 03:28 PM
  6. msm0511's Avatar
    Kind of a sly question here, but I know a lot of folks are a little upset about the Touch Bar. Some I've talked to in fact have said they'd ditch their new Touch Bar MBP for the previous gen. I suspect they're not alone, but I also suspect there are MANY that absolutely love it.

    Would you consider the downgrade, or are you more than happy with the Touch Bar and all of the new features it brings?
    I'll let you know if mine ever ships!
    11-23-2016 10:34 PM
  7. James Falconer's Avatar
    I'll let you know if mine ever ships!
    Still waiting on the elusive shipping notification?
    11-25-2016 10:48 AM
  8. James Falconer's Avatar
    I haven't purchased a new MacBook Pro with touch bar (TB) yet, but I'm definitely considering doing so. As to whether I'd switch out a TB version for a non TB version, I'd have to say no - I really think that the TB will offer up a meaningful additional way of interacting with the computer. A local Best Buy had all three versions of the new MacBooks Pro in: both of the 13" ones (with and without the TB), and the 15" with TB and I was able to try them out. On the TB versions I opened/used both Pages and Safari to get a feel for the keyboard and the TB. The touch bar's context awareness is definitely a thing: without any apps open you're presented with the ESC key and function keys on it, upon opening Safari it switched to offering navigational browser options including a central 'key' (touch area) for entering a web address. Pressing that brought up a dialogue box on the computer screen for inputting a site, among other options IIRC. Also in the TB there was a 'key' for opening a new tab in Safari, then, at another point in Safari on the TB there were icons of sites that you could 'one click/touch' to navigate to, such as Google, Bing, or Facebook, and other sites that were also 'one touch' icons to navigate to (i.e. the 'favorites' section). There were also similar context sensitive/relevant options of the TB when I was using Pages. In my brief time at Best Buy using the new MacBooks Pro I got a sense of the TB's potential and could see how not only is there context awareness and different choices offered up on the TB between apps, but also different choices/options displayed on the TB depending upon where you are in an app and what you're doing at any one time in the app. As far as whether the TB is more/less of a gimmicky feature, or a useful additional method of interacting with the computer - that will be up to Apple, and app developers to work out. Imo though, the potential is certainly there for the TB to be something meaningful (useful).✌️️
    @Master - some great points you've made here. In the end I think it's still early days, and you're right, developers need time to work it. On top of that, people generally do not like change. Change is hard!
    11-25-2016 10:49 AM
  9. msm0511's Avatar
    Still waiting on the elusive shipping notification?
    Yessir! My MBP has estimated delivery Dec 20-26, and my JB iPhone 7 Plus Dec 07-28. Blah, this wait is killing me!!!
    11-25-2016 10:54 AM
  10. chad_winker's Avatar
    Would love to trade for the new Macbookpro with touch bar
    11-26-2016 04:56 AM
  11. Matty's Avatar
    Kind of a sly question here, but I know a lot of folks are a little upset about the Touch Bar. Some I've talked to in fact have said they'd ditch their new Touch Bar MBP for the previous gen. I suspect they're not alone, but I also suspect there are MANY that absolutely love it.

    Would you consider the downgrade, or are you more than happy with the Touch Bar and all of the new features it brings?
    No Ways! The touch Bar is awesome!

    I tried the touch bar in one of the Apple stores and i wouldn't give it up for a older gen laptop. I would also be giving up that gorgeous new screen and also the MASSIVE touch pad. (which may or may not scare me a little) haha
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    11-26-2016 07:56 AM
  12. Thomas Walcutt's Avatar
    I might be in the minority. The touch bar is what excites me about this new MacBook. I really want one; I had the chance to get one in November, but didn't want wait till December. I ended up buying the 13 inch model right before this brand new one.
    11-27-2016 12:13 AM
  13. ElenaCanada's Avatar
    Yes, I've tried one of the new ones and they are oh so nice
    11-27-2016 09:51 AM
  14. James Falconer's Avatar
    I might be in the minority. The touch bar is what excites me about this new MacBook. I really want one; I had the chance to get one in November, but didn't want wait till December. I ended up buying the 13 inch model right before this brand new one.
    Have you been to the store to give it a try?
    11-29-2016 09:16 AM
  15. groy22799's Avatar
    I don't think that it's about the functionality or lack there of at this point, but the potential of the TouchBar. Given time, I feel this is going to be a revolutionary addition to the MBP. Even though the new MBP does not out perform the previous by much, it is still an upgrade. Yes, there is the need for dongles to have the same connectivity options and there is no magsafe, but TB 3.1 is the future. In time, I think the industry will embrace TB 3.1/USB C and those that have invested in the new MBP will be glad they did...especially once the potential of the TouchBar is realized.
    11-29-2016 09:25 AM
  16. alphatectz's Avatar
    I doubt it. I just ordered the new high end 13" w/ the touch bar. Should be coming to me sometime this week. I just need to find a good USB-c hub
    11-29-2016 09:56 AM
  17. semperidem's Avatar
    If I got one by some divine intervention, I wouldnt trade down, but I would likely keep my old MBP too. In all likelihood, I would turn it into a desktop replacement and leave it attached to the monitor and all the peripherals while using the new MBP for my main laptop, as I mostly work in various locations rather than at my home.
    11-29-2016 10:13 AM
  18. msm0511's Avatar
    I doubt it. I just ordered the new high end 13" w/ the touch bar. Should be coming to me sometime this week. I just need to find a good USB-c hub
    How in the world is yours coming this week when mine isn't scheduled to be delivered until the 20th-26th? I ordered mine Nov. 12th.
    11-29-2016 01:59 PM
  19. alphatectz's Avatar
    How in the world is yours coming this week when mine isn't scheduled to be delivered until the 20th-26th? I ordered mine Nov. 12th.
    No clue. I was told it will be in the 1st week of December. Which is between this Thursday and next.
    11-29-2016 02:00 PM
  20. msm0511's Avatar
    No clue. I was told it will be in the 1st week of December. Which is between this Thursday and next.
    Did you order silver or space grey? Did you get the 2.9 i5/512gb?
    11-29-2016 02:02 PM
  21. alphatectz's Avatar
    Did you order silver or space grey? Did you get the 2.9 i5/512gb?
    Space grey 2.9/512
    11-29-2016 02:06 PM
  22. msm0511's Avatar
    Space grey 2.9/512
    Same one I got. Maybe it's cuz I bumped the RAM to 16gb instead of the base 8. Hopefully we'll love em when we get em, b/c they're sure not cheap!
    11-29-2016 02:09 PM
  23. alphatectz's Avatar
    Same one I got. Maybe it's cuz I bumped the RAM to 16gb instead of the base 8. Hopefully we'll love em when we get em, b/c they're sure not cheap!
    Indeed, I'm actually going to take a look at the tear down from ifixit. Hopefully we can manually upgrade them with more GB and a 1TB.
    msm0511 likes this.
    11-29-2016 02:10 PM

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