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    Hi I'm considering jailbreaking my iPhone 3GS I want to know a few things:
    1. What are the benefits of jailbreaking?
    2. What am I able to do that I couldn't do with an unjailbroken device?
    3. What is Cydia and what does that offer?
    4. What jailbreaks are available?
    5. Can I reverse the process easily without ending up with a bricked phone?
    6. How legal is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyan_Cat100 View Post
    Hi I'm considering jailbreaking my iPhone 3GS I want to know a few things:
    1. What are the benefits of jailbreaking?
    2. What am I able to do that I couldn't do with an unjailbroken device?
    3. What is Cydia and what does that offer?
    4. What jailbreaks are available?
    5. Can I reverse the process easily without ending up with a bricked phone?
    6. How legal is it?
    1 and 2 are essentially the same question. If you could do it with the unjailbroken device, it's not really a benefit of jailbreaking after all.

    With that in mind, jailbreaking allows you to install apps and tweaks that Apple hasn't signed. These range from enhancements to the text messaging system to call screening to adding swiping functionality to allowing for themed appearances etc.

    Cydia is the "iTunes Store" for jailbreakers. You'll essentially carry two stores: one for jailbreak applications and the one you've always carried. Like Apple's store, Cydia contains a combination of free and paid applications.

    Jailbreaks available depend on your current iOS. If you're on 6.1.3, there isn't one. If you're on 6.0-6.1.2, evasi0n is your best bet. Prior to those builds, you'll have the least amount of trouble using redsn0w. That can be found here: Dev-Team Blog evasi0n is at evasi0n iOS 6.x Jailbreak - official website of the evad3rs

    To reverse the process, simply plug your phone into iTunes and tell it to restore your phone.

    It's as legal as breathing. Apple frowns upon it and voids your warranty if they find out. However, a quick restore hides it from them. I'm also not sure how much Apple is still servicing the 3GS to begin with so I'm not sure this is a factor in your decision or not.
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    Default Re: Benefits of jailbreaking

    This is a really good article that explains a lot of pro's and con's (mostly pro's)

    Why I continue to jailbreak | Macworld
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    Default Re: Benefits of jailbreaking

    Here's a stickie that will answer all ur questions

    Jailbreak FAQ: common questions & answers (read before posting!)
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    none, that i can see
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiNK View Post
    none, that i can see
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetserf View Post
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    what. it seems the minute i am jailbroken it turns into a waiting game.. waiting for some little quirk/glitch to happen. some people are fine with it and some are not. after a few years of this i finally had enough

    i'm not saying jailbreaking is "The Devil" just saying that after a while of doing it i realized it was only a hobby, not a necessity. others should look at it that way too especially since you cannot restore back to the desired jailbreakable firmware (A5+ devices) you're one terrible thing going wrong away from restoring to stock anyways
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiNK View Post
    what. it seems the minute i am jailbroken it turns into a waiting game.. waiting for some little quirk/glitch to happen. some people are fine with it and some are not. after a few years of this i finally had enough

    i'm not saying jailbreaking is "The Devil" just saying that after a while of doing it i realized it was only a hobby, not a necessity. others should look at it that way too especially since you cannot restore back to the desired jailbreakable firmware (A5+ devices) you're one terrible thing going wrong away from restoring to stock anyways
    You just put what I think I've always thought into words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiNK View Post
    what. it seems the minute i am jailbroken it turns into a waiting game.. waiting for some little quirk/glitch to happen. some people are fine with it and some are not. after a few years of this i finally had enough

    i'm not saying jailbreaking is "The Devil" just saying that after a while of doing it i realized it was only a hobby, not a necessity. others should look at it that way too especially since you cannot restore back to the desired jailbreakable firmware (A5+ devices) you're one terrible thing going wrong away from restoring to stock anyways
    You're confusing "benefits" with "necessity."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiNK View Post
    what. it seems the minute i am jailbroken it turns into a waiting game.. waiting for some little quirk/glitch to happen. some people are fine with it and some are not. after a few years of this i finally had enough

    i'm not saying jailbreaking is "The Devil" just saying that after a while of doing it i realized it was only a hobby, not a necessity. others should look at it that way too especially since you cannot restore back to the desired jailbreakable firmware (A5+ devices) you're one terrible thing going wrong away from restoring to stock anyways
    And none of this BS would be an issue if Apple had kept up with the times and actually updated their os, or allow people to do as they please with their phones, they could even bury an option in settings to open them up to customization with several warnings that it is for advanced users only. Yet here we are on iOS 6.1.3, and it's the same as it was in 2007 minus a few tacked on tweaks they copied from Cydia devs or Android. I am stuck on 6.1.3 now and I am probably getting a HTC one when they come out. No more waiting and hoping, Apple is the new Blackberry of old, let's see if it takes them as long to realize it. Any company that rests on past success is doomed to fail.
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    What I can't understand is why apple don't embrace the fact that people want to jailbreak their iDevices and if I was a dev I would put a port on the OS which jailbreakers could use instead of exploiting vulnerabilities plus apple could monitor usage like prevent piracy
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    At least on the old blackberry OS there was built in customisation
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    my lock button started acting up. I installed a tweak so I can tap and hold the battery icon to lock the device. You can also apply themes, install file managers, custom logos and fonts, ad blockers, have the alarm be on a set volume regardless of what the phones volume is set to, add an icon to auto close all apps instead of doing it one by one, safari downloader. One of my favorite and most useful tweaks is math alarm which doesnt let you silence the alarm until you solve a math problem. I hated how easily the alarm can be silenced and overslept often. With my old blackberry I had an app as my alarm so I had to unlock the phone to silence it. Iphones allow you to silence while locked which is pointless when the goal is to get you to choose to silence the alarm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyan_Cat100 View Post
    What I can't understand is why apple don't embrace the fact that people want to jailbreak their iDevices and if I was a dev I would put a port on the OS which jailbreakers could use instead of exploiting vulnerabilities plus apple could monitor usage like prevent piracy
    Read redbeard's rant.

    He's associated any frustration he's had with Apple and looks to go to other companies. As frustrated as he is, users like him are the reason Apple won't endorse it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natasftw View Post
    Read redbeard's rant.

    He's associated any frustration he's had with Apple and looks to go to other companies. As frustrated as he is, users like him are the reason Apple won't endorse it.
    I don't know if you're just trolling, but users like me are exactly why they should open up the iPhone to customization. They can either stop being control freaks or continue to lose customers.. I know exactly what I'm doing, iOS isn't as stable and user friendly as people make it out to be..
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbeard View Post
    I don't know if you're just trolling, but users like me are exactly why they should open up the iPhone to customization. They can either stop being control freaks or continue to lose customers.. I know exactly what I'm doing, iOS isn't as stable and user friendly as people make it out to be..
    Nope. It wasn't a troll.

    You managed to break this phone. You've managed to break others.

    You've stated this on these forums.

    You're equating the frustration you've had with Apple as a whole. By doing so, you're validating their argument.

    They're gaining market share. That's the opposite of your rant's claim of lost customers.

    Each OS has pros and cons. You're focusing on cons arising from your actions. You are exactly the type of user they speak of when they state reasons they don't want to allow a jailbreak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyan_Cat100 View Post
    What I can't understand is why apple don't embrace the fact that people want to jailbreak their iDevices and if I was a dev I would put a port on the OS which jailbreakers could use instead of exploiting vulnerabilities plus apple could monitor usage like prevent piracy
    Apple clearly ain't bothered about jailbreaking as they took a month to close the exploits. They also use many tweaks created by the community in iOS updates. They have a care of duty to close vulnerabilities for the majority of iOS muggles who are quite happy with stock and have no idea about the jailbreak scene.

    Having a section/port for people to run jailbreak tweaks is a great idea but will never fly with Apples mantra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyan_Cat100 View Post
    What I can't understand is why apple don't embrace the fact that people want to jailbreak their iDevices and if I was a dev I would put a port on the OS which jailbreakers could use instead of exploiting vulnerabilities plus apple could monitor usage like prevent piracy
    Jail breaking a device exposes exploits which Apple will plug both proactively and reactively.

    The walled garden that is iOS delivers a secure, stable, consistent environment and user experience. This is paramount to Apple's success philosophically.

    Eventually the jb community will run out of exploits and this topic will be a thing of the past.

    Piracy is hurting developers. The Android platform is not financially viable for most developers any longer because of the extremely high rate of piracy. We dropped it from our paid app strategy, and others are doing so every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timhewitt View Post
    Eventually the jb community will run out of exploits and this topic will be a thing of the past.
    You do understand that exploits used in recent versions of iOS didn't necessarily exist in older versions? The community will run out of exploits when Apple stops updating iOS, not until.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natasftw View Post
    You do understand that exploits used in recent versions of iOS didn't necessarily exist in older versions? The community will run out of exploits when Apple stops updating iOS, not until.
    How do they generally find the exploits? Do they have to decompile code or does apple release information to developers that can be used to find exploits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timhewitt View Post
    Piracy is hurting developers. The Android platform is not financially viable for most developers any longer because of the extremely high rate of piracy. We dropped it from our paid app strategy, and others are doing so every day.
    well for every one that is dropping android there must be 2 that are starting to develop for it because the apps available for android are growing every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natasftw View Post
    As frustrated as he is, users like him are the reason Apple won't endorse it.
    but he seems angry that he is stuck on 6.1.3, not that he jailbroke the device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timhewitt View Post
    Jail breaking a device exposes exploits which Apple will plug both proactively and reactively.

    The walled garden that is iOS delivers a secure, stable, consistent environment and user experience. This is paramount to Apple's success philosophically.

    Eventually the jb community will run out of exploits and this topic will be a thing of the past.

    Piracy is hurting developers. The Android platform is not financially viable for most developers any longer because of the extremely high rate of piracy. We dropped it from our paid app strategy, and others are doing so every day.
    I choose iOS because of the JB emulating webOS features and got burned out running patches and scripts to keep my daily driver frankinpre2 running on sprint...

    an overclock heating made my keyboard unreliable so I pulled the trigger and upgraded to a 5

    now I'm stuck on 6.1.3 with no jailbreak getting by with my TP....don't get me wrong iOS6 is very stable dependable but I guess I miss the custom touch

    as far as devs are concerned most of my friends are fanboys that never paid for an app in there life even thou I spent at lest 30 bucks in a months time....if we don't support them there won't be many left
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyan_Cat100 View Post
    Hi I'm considering jailbreaking my iPhone 3GS I want to know a few things:
    1. What are the benefits of jailbreaking?
    2. What am I able to do that I couldn't do with an unjailbroken device?
    3. What is Cydia and what does that offer?
    4. What jailbreaks are available?
    5. Can I reverse the process easily without ending up with a bricked phone?
    6. How legal is it?
    1) possibilities are limitless. Themeing, tweaking, remove ads from apps, customization of the UI.

    2) Technically, offers more controlled security. A couple of weeks ago, I was at a party where my phone was stolen from my hotel room. Luckily I had iCaughtUPro installed and was able to track down the thief, show the police the evidence I had and retrieve my phone. $2.49 tweak saved me nearly 900 bucks. Mind you, this was with the phone not having a sin card. I received a picture, location, and time stamp of the event whenever someone tries to shut down my phone. You cannot do this in stock and I know without my jailbreak is never see my phone again. Well worth it.

    3) Cydia is the web store for all things jail breaking. It offers a bunch of tweaks like BiteSMS, Callbar, IntelliscreenX, Twitkafly, Auxo, Remote Messages 2, and the list goes on. I have all of these tweaks (paid for, don't support piracy, support our DEVs) and they each make the iOS experience much more fluid than stock.

    4) YouTube top Cydia Tweaks and you will see a bunch of videos that show tweaks, what they do, how go use them, where you can find them and for how much. My favourite 5 are BiteSMS, IntelliscreenX, Auxo, iCaughtU Pro, and Applocker.

    5) If you want to remove jailbreak completely, simply plug in the phone to iTunes and restore. It's that simple. If you want to return to the state right after jail broken, but clean from tweaks, go into Cydia and remove tweak "mobile substrate." This is probably the most important thing on your phone and controls everything. Removing this doesn't remove jailbreak, just lets you start over from scratch if you have issues. Also, if you end up in a bricked state, then the phone off, hold the volume up button and turn on. Hold this until it powers up in safe-mode. This mode allowed you to use the phone like stock and remove any recently installed tweaks that may be causing the phone to crash.

    6) Jailbreaking is legal, locking the carrier of the phone is illegal I believe in the states. Over here in Canada it is not illegal to modify your phone.

    If anything else you want to know, message me
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    How do they generally find the exploits? Do they have to decompile code or does apple release information to developers that can be used to find exploits?
    I've never done it myself, so I can't say entirely. There is something Apple gives developers that facilitates a quick jailbreak. However, using it would violate the NDA and I believe Copyright Laws as well. Typically, they use that to get access to their device and then start poking around. I'm not sure what exactly they do at this point as I haven't delved too deeply into the details. I do know a lot of what they've used in the past is no longer applicable.

    Ie, they used to get bootrom hacks. These worked on the iPhone4 and older and remained with the device, regardless of iOS version. These exploits made getting into the iOS a much easier task. As a result, once they had that exploit, they had the ability to facilitate downgrades and jailbreaks quickly. From the 4s and beyond, they haven't been able to get into the bootrom. This is in part due to Apple hiding and encrypting the bootrom starting with the 4. I believe it was geohot that managed to hack the 4's bootrom even with the encryption. The lack of a bootrom means they need to find exploits that allow them to get out of the "sandbox" Apple uses to keep apps away from root access.

    In the past, they've used things like safari or pdf exploits to gain root access. That's how you had pages such as jailbreakme.com able to jailbreak your phone directly from the web. This is also part of why Apple built the sandbox. By placing safari into the sandbox, they kept it away from root.

    All I know about the most recent jailbreak is they took advantage of the space on your phone used to transfer new music via iTunes and managed to sneak their code from there onto the device itself.

    I'd love to tell you exactly, but I'd prefer be honest and say I don't know than lie to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by androidluvr2 View Post
    but he seems angry that he is stuck on 6.1.3, not that he jailbroke the device.
    He posted elsewhere that he ran into a problem with his jailbreak and restored. That's why he's "stuck" with the most recent iOS. He continued to rant about the phone being "useless" and other such things. My post really wasn't meant as an insult. It's just passing on something one of Apple's wireless managers shared with me. It's honestly the only explanation I've ever given any weight to.
    Last edited by natasftw; 04-13-2013 at 11:38 PM. Reason: forgot to reply to the second half. oops :P
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