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    i was just thinking how iPhone 5 users might not want to get too excited yet due to the fact that jailbreak devs will still need to optimize their apps/tweaks correctly. if true it could be a little while longer to get your favorite tweak on your jailbroken iPhone 5

    am i wrong??
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiNK View Post
    i was just thinking how iPhone 5 users might not want to get too excited yet due to the fact that jailbreak devs will still need to optimize their apps/tweaks correctly. if true it could be a little while longer to get your favorite tweak on your jailbroken iPhone 5

    am i wrong??
    In addition to that issue is that I can't recall an initial jailbreak tool that did not have issues. Generally several iterations of release candidate x, y and z before the final and stable tool is established. I definitely won't be using v1 of whatever is releases. Just don't want to spend the time redoing it after they discover and iron out the kinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiNK View Post
    i was just thinking how iPhone 5 users might not want to get too excited yet due to the fact that jailbreak devs will still need to optimize their apps/tweaks correctly. if true it could be a little while longer to get your favorite tweak on your jailbroken iPhone 5

    am i wrong??
    "Am I wrong?" Kinda

    No offense! it really comes to the devs and their dedication. As far as I know jailbreak devs already have the untethered jailbreak and are (should be) testing their apps to make sure they're compatible. In the mean time evad3rs are working on a tool usable by humans (i.e. us).


    Quote Originally Posted by Highrisedrifter View Post
    I was always told, and this goes back to the dawn of the iPhone i'll admit, that being jailbroken opens the phone up to malicious external hacking due to a root password that is usually locked down now becoming open for an external third party to exploit. Now of course, I haven't got a clue if this is truth or just complete rubbish but security is definitely the number one reason I have held off jailbreaking so far.
    Once jailbroken the phone is exactly as secure as it was before. After that it all depends on what you decide to install that could lower your security. That's why we highly recommend you research your apps before installing them (and if you can't find any good info ask here ).

    As far as root passwords go, that will only affect you if you have the tweak OpenSSH on your device which allows remote viewing of the file system of the device. Note that this tweak doesn't come "out of the box" with a jailbreak. Once installed you automatically get "root" for name and "alpine" for password. A security hole to be sure, but a simple command in Mobile Terminal will allow you to change the password to anything you like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Highrisedrifter View Post
    I was also told (again probably by a source that had no real knowledge himself) that as the apps exclusively available to a jailbroken iPhone were not stringently tested by Apple to make sure there were no exploits, hacks or other dodgy code that would exploit any weaknesses in the phone, that you would be taking pot luck when you installed a third-party app to a jailbroken phone.
    Here you're correct. None of the jailbreak tweaks are tested by Apple. If fact jailbreaking has no real connection to Apple apart from being run on their devices (and arguably Apple choosing the best tweaks and implementing them in the next iOS iteration).
    As far as vulnerabilities go, there are different servers (repositories) that carry tweaks. There's a thread in the stickies on this forum that lists the most reputable repositories. But don't worry - once you jailbreak, the most used repo's will be automatically added, so you'll be good to go!


    Quote Originally Posted by Highrisedrifter View Post
    On an Android phone, it is recommended that you install a virus checker and firewall, especially to a 'rooted' phone. Is that the case for an iPhone too please?
    That's Android. On iOS we don't do these things.
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    Great stuff, thanks iDonev. So basically, as long as I don't install OpenSSH, which I have no plans to doing as I don't intend on using my phone for telnet/FTP etc, then security is not an issue. I've been looking through the Repositories on here and paying particular interest to the 'favourite JB apps' thread as I reckon the most favoured apps are the ones that are least likely to be exploited as someone would have found the hack before now (providing I get the apps from recommended repositories naturally).

    I'm perhaps one of those people that does maybe a little too much research and evaluation before delving into anything, hence asking all the damn fool questions over the last few months. My greatest strength and my biggest flaw all rolled in one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highrisedrifter View Post
    Great stuff, thanks iDonev. So basically, as long as I don't install OpenSSH, which I have no plans to doing as I don't intend on using my phone for telnet/FTP etc, then security is not an issue. I've been looking through the Repositories on here and paying particular interest to the 'favourite JB apps' thread as I reckon the most favoured apps are the ones that are least likely to be exploited as someone would have found the hack before now (providing I get the apps from recommended repositories naturally).

    I'm perhaps one of those people that does maybe a little too much research and evaluation before delving into anything, hence asking all the damn fool questions over the last few months. My greatest strength and my biggest flaw all rolled in one.
    You know what they say: better safe than sorry

    In any case those aren't foolish questions - we've all asked them at one point or another.
    As far as repositories/popular apps go you've got it right. In fact the majority of trusted repositories test each and every tweak themselves, so you can be sure that new tweak won't set your phone on fire
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich67 View Post
    I am so stoked I can JB my 6.1. I missed it when I upgraded, but the extra features made it a little worthwhile. However, now I can't wait to customize my screens again...
    been there feel your pain
    can't upgrade via iTunes check this thread http://forum.tipb.com/jailbreak-unlo...ml#post1717460
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    Quote Originally Posted by luispl View Post
    Yes I've used my sisters USA account but I tried using my bank account from here. It's inconvenient to use her credit card information and make her pay for it. My point is, will jail breaking help me able download apps from USA store even though I'm overseas. Isn't jail breaking , getting free apps the whole point of it?
    you don't need a creditcard get a $10 itunes card and make an account. As to the reason to JB search there are tons of threads devoted to the reasons to JB.
    can't upgrade via iTunes check this thread http://forum.tipb.com/jailbreak-unlo...ml#post1717460
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    i highly doubt every JB dev out there is beta testing evasi0n. plus last i read the JB was still in the works of getting bugs resolved. bottom line there WILL be a wait on more than a few re: the updating of OS alone. especially for the Devs that have no incentive to do so

    for example, on of my favorite tweaks of all time is RemindMeLater. that particular dev decided (last i checked) to not even update to work on 5.x.x. i even had conversations with him about it and he said it wasn't worth his time anymore. sad
    i just have a funny feeling that it's not going to be this glorious day once the JB is released when there will be work to be done out if our control. hopefully i am wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiNK View Post
    i highly doubt every JB dev out there is beta testing evasi0n. plus last i read the JB was still in the works of getting bugs resolved. bottom line there WILL be a wait on more than a few re: the updating of OS alone. especially for the Devs that have no incentive to do so

    for example, on of my favorite tweaks of all time is RemindMeLater. that particular dev decided (last i checked) to not even update to work on 5.x.x. i even had conversations with him about it and he said it wasn't worth his time anymore. sad
    i just have a funny feeling that it's not going to be this glorious day once the JB is released when there will be work to be done out if our control. hopefully i am wrong.
    I think you've hit the nail on the head there. Dev cycles usually have lag in them when it comes to third party take up anyway. Pretty much everything I have been involved with has suffered in exactly this way and I don't see this forthcoming JB to be any different.

    Whilst it's true that some devs may already have a beta of the JB in order to get their apps up and running in readiness for the launch, by no means will all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iDonev View Post
    As far as vulnerabilities go, there are different servers (repositories) that carry tweaks. There's a thread in the stickies on this forum that lists the most reputable repositories. But don't worry - once you jailbreak, the most used repo's will be automatically added, so you'll be good to go!
    Windows is the most used desktop OS, and is therefor the most hacked. My point being, the question was about security, not popularity of the repositories. Do the various repository admins do any checking to at least attempt to ensure that the JB apps/tweaks distributed through them are safe? Most of what I've looked at via Cydia is at BigBoss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gordol View Post
    Windows is the most used desktop OS, and is therefor the most hacked. My point being, the question was about security, not popularity of the repositories. Do the various repository admins do any checking to at least attempt to ensure that the JB apps/tweaks distributed through them are safe? Most of what I've looked at via Cydia is at BigBoss.
    I can't claim any concise knowledge of these matters as I've never gone through an approval process with BigBoss. But considering that they offer plenty of paid tweaks, one expects them to be held to the highest standard. At least in my experience never have I encountered a malicious tweak on their repo, or one that's paid and doesn't deliver.
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    Yeah I think that in order to be approved, the tweaks are verified and tested.

    By the way we're now at 75% on the jailbreak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iDonev View Post
    I can't claim any concise knowledge of these matters as I've never gone through an approval process with BigBoss. But considering that they offer plenty of paid tweaks, one expects them to be held to the highest standard. At least in my experience never have I encountered a malicious tweak on their repo, or one that's paid and doesn't deliver.
    Me neither, and all of the items I've downloaded from Cydia have come recommended by users here on iMore. I just wanted to try to make sure that if/when I do download something without advice from others, that I'm at least reasonably safe doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gordol View Post
    Me neither, and all of the items I've downloaded from Cydia have come recommended by users here on iMore. I just wanted to try to make sure that if/when I do download something without advice from others, that I'm at least reasonably safe doing so.
    As long as you stick to reputable repos you have little to worry about. One month I was bored out of my mind and started going through the different categories and tried tweaks that caught my interest. Sure, by the end my phone became somewhat unstable due to old hardware, tweak incompatibilities and several with sloppy coding, but I didn't experience anything really scary, dangerous or unexpected. Bottom line is: none of BigBoss' tweaks will harm your phone.
    If you have jailbreak woes, you can iMessage me at iDonev@me.com. I'll try to help (provided I have time to spare).
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    Jailbreak service announcement:

    I know when the hour hits many people would go to evad3rs' site to download the tool without reading through the whole thing. So I thought I'd bring something to everyone's attention:
    Official 6.1 Jailbreaking Tool Announced, Will Be Called Evasi0n-image.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by iDonev View Post

    Once jailbroken the phone is exactly as secure as it was before. After that it all depends on what you decide to install that could lower your security. That's why we highly recommend you research your apps before installing them (and if you can't find any good info ask here ).
    That's not ENTIRELY true. Jail breaking does remove some security measures. If it didn't, you wouldn't be able to install the jailbreak apps.

    But, it shouldn't be a concern. In the past, the jailbreak community has offered patches to security holes in iOS before apple pushed an update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iDonev View Post
    You don't need a jailbreak for that. Simply create a second dummy account for iTunes and choose USA as the country. That will allow you to download the free apps from the App Store. If you want to purchase apps, buy US iTunes Gift Cards from eBay and redeem them to your dummy account.
    Did not know you could do this.
    Thanks for the tip iDonev.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iDonev View Post
    Jailbreak service announcement:

    I know when the hour hits many people would go to evad3rs' site to download the tool without reading through the whole thing. So I thought I'd bring something to everyone's attention:
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    Is that just during the initial jailbreak?
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    also keep in mind that when released Cydia server(s) will be getting slammed and give appearance that something is broken when in fact there is not

    patience...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLiNK View Post
    also keep in mind that when released Cydia server(s) will be getting slammed and give appearance that something is broken when in fact there is not

    patience...
    Cydia is going to install fully updated. So the (default) repos listings will be up to date and load super quick… downloading tweaks may be an issue though

    Quote Originally Posted by AmpedPotato View Post
    Is that just during the initial jailbreak?
    Yes only for the five
    Minutes it takes for your device to load the jailbreak and reboot.
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