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    Default iPad-3 is it Locked or Unlocked ?

    I live outside the U.S and I was wondering If I buy a AT&T Wi-Fi + 4G LTE Model of the iPad-3, can I use it with the 3G service of my local service provider in my country without paying any International Roaming Charges !

    In Future if the 4G LTE service is provided with my Local service provider will this AT&T model work for the 4G LTE service with my local service provider ?

    The Current Models launched in the U.S for Pre-Order for iPad-3 are they Network locked ? Or Unlocked ?.
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    I'm not 100% certain, but I think they will be carrier locked ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    I live outside the U.S and I was wondering If I buy a AT&T Wi-Fi + 4G LTE Model of the iPad-3, can I use it with the 3G service of my local service provider in my country without paying any International Roaming Charges !

    In Future if the 4G LTE service is provided with my Local service provider will this AT&T model work for the 4G LTE service with my local service provider ?

    The Current Models launched in the U.S for Pre-Order for iPad-3 are they Network locked ? Or Unlocked ?.

    Carrier locked...
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    I think your both wrong. My iPad first gen and iPad 2 are unlocked. I have used my T-Mobile SIM on many occasions. I dont see the new one being different.
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    All iPads have been unlocked since day 1. I don't see why this would be different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post
    All iPads have been unlocked since day 1. I don't see why this would be different.

    Quote Originally Posted by XM_JDM View Post
    I think your both wrong. My iPad first gen and iPad 2 are unlocked. I have used my T-Mobile SIM on many occasions. I dont see the new one being different.

    The older ones were also only using a 3G standard, which made it easier to switch carriers. With the new 4G capabilities... It may just cause some trouble.

    But, since it does support 3G bands as well, it could still work.
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    I doubt a carrier lock - think about it, why would an operator worry about locking it up when LTE radios are frequency based and each carrier operates at a different frequency. VZW vs ATT ipads will run different LTE radios so lock or no lock still means locked to a carrier.
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    It said it was carrier locked when I ordered, it said to pick Verizon or AT&T and said it was locked to that carrier. Maybe just a scare tactic.
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    Default different frequencies

    If you look on the specs page, you can see the Verizon model is different than the ATT model. Verizon ha s CDMA instead of the second LTE frequencies.

    That said, the specs found on the France, Canada and Japan models as the same as AT&T, but I don't think Apple is marketing it as LTE there.

    I think LTE has 30+ different implementations around the world, even the 700MHz spectrum is handled in the US differently between AT&T and Verizon.

    I think the only thing we can count on is the GSM (and the few HSPA options).

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    They are unlocked according to Apple. The US ones wont work on LTE outside of the US though, different bands of LTE. 3G and HSPA+ should still work internationally as they stated during the keynote.

    Also, read:
    International 4G iPad Models Will Work on AT&T, Not on LTE in Home Countries - Mac Rumors
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    They're unlocked but, since LTE operates on different frequencies on different carriers, you must buy the one that works on your carrier. They'll all work universally on 3G.
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    Good to know. Was toying with ordering the 3 from the US, but it comes out here in Sweden on the 23rd so not that long of a wait .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayg View Post
    They're unlocked but, since LTE operates on different frequencies on different carriers, you must buy the one that works on your carrier. They'll all work universally on 3G.
    Did you reword what I posted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadu View Post
    Did you reword what I posted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XM_JDM View Post
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    Are Tmobile or Sprint Lte bands compatible with Verizon or At&t?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dloveprod View Post
    Are Tmobile or Sprint Lte bands compatible with Verizon or At&t?
    T-mobile is reporting that they will have LTE by 2013 and Sprint will builf out LTE using part if iden network from Nextel acquisition. Both will use different frequencies as well.
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    Default Re: iPad-3 is it Locked or Unlocked ?

    Is ur tmobile contrack
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavemanOOGA View Post
    The older ones were also only using a 3G standard, which made it easier to switch carriers. With the new 4G capabilities... It may just cause some trouble.

    But, since it does support 3G bands as well, it could still work.
    The standard has nothing to do with it being locked or unlocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadu View Post
    Did you reword what I posted?
    Since what you said wasn't exactly accurate, it would be nice if someone reworded it.

    Consider the iPhone as an example. The CDMA version works for both Sprint and Verizon. You'd have to delve more into the bands to find which providers it would work with for 4G, but as all carriers work with 3G, it's entirely asinine to suggest different LTE bands "carrier locks" the iPad.

    If you don't want people to reword what you say, don't say silly stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dionte View Post
    Are Tmobile or Sprint Lte bands compatible with Verizon or At&t?
    List of LTE networks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Model A1459* (GSM)
    LTE (Bands 4 and 17)

    Model A1460* (CDMA)
    LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 13, 25)

    You shouldn't be concerned with which providers match bands. You should focus on which bands match the iPad specs.

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