- 03-21-2011, 02:14 PM #26
- 03-21-2011, 06:22 PM #27iPhone Newbie
- 10 Posts
I think this is just a scare tactic. if you are on a two year contract with a grandfathered unlimited data plan (like I am because I carried it into my iPhone 4 upgrade last year) if they are going to change the terms of your contract without your permission that should be grounds to be able to terminate that contract without ETF.
I would consider "heavy" or "high" data usage to be between 5-10GB and going up from there.
there were always issues with customers when they had those Data Connect Laptop plans for 5GB was $60 per month. They were sold to customers in stores as "Unlimited" laptop connect plans and then AT&T starting dinging accounts with over 5 GB usage over consistent billing cycles because in actuality, that was the plan threshold.
They gave those customers an option to change to a plan where after 5GB they would be paying per data transfer rate above that (dont remember what it was) or they could terminate their contract without penalty because of "false advertising at point of sale"
the number that is in those e-mails about the first poster is probably some "Excessive Data Usage" team that take calls for cases like this iphone deal and also for other devices that are tagged on the network as using too much data per month and also Excessive roaming within U.S.
I wouldn't worry about it and if they did try something like that on my account I would call and raise Cain because my contract says I have an unlimited plan and that is that!
- 03-21-2011, 06:42 PM #28
The problem with your argument is that AT&T isn't changing anything about the terms of their contract... the contract says that tethering is NOT allowed under the unlimited data plan... if you want to tether, you need a TETHERING plan... so technically you are already in violation of the terms of your contract... so legally they COULD cancel your contract and charge you the ETF... odds are very good that that will not happen, but they have the right to do so...
And yes, it's probably a scare tactic... find a "poster boy" type of abuser, throw the book at them and watch everyone else fall back into line... I suspect that will happen to a couple of people then this will all blow over... is tethering against the terms of your contract? Yes. Is it a huge deal for the casual tetherer? Not at all... Let's just wait and see what happens...
Then again, this guy (NOT Woody, but the "friend" that he references) is just begging for it...
- 03-21-2011, 07:05 PM #29
- 03-21-2011, 07:24 PM #30
- 03-22-2011, 12:23 AM #31
Again, I am personally taking a "wait and see" attitude... I think it's more sabre-rattling than anything else... and until they actually start forcing people off of the unlimited data plans and putting them on 2GB plans AND tethering plans, there's probably not a lot to worry about wether you're using mywi, pdanet or something else...
- 03-26-2011, 06:05 AM #32
- 03-27-2011, 09:38 AM #33
- 04-01-2011, 07:20 AM #34
I downloaded User Agent Faker from Cydia and have my iPad set to identify itself as the same string as my iPhone (custom).
I rarely tether, I have unlimited data, but when I tether I do not want to be forced into a higher priced lower data plan.
Hopefully this will help
- 04-01-2011, 07:29 AM #35
- 04-01-2011, 09:01 AM #36
- 04-01-2011, 04:03 PM #37iPhone Nanite
- 1 Posts
The iPhone 4 is my first iPhone. I was a big BB user before the switch. I used an app called "Tether" with my last BB. I still get emails from websites that sell BB apps and they are still promoting the Tether app. Is this only a problem with the iPhone or are they doing the same for other platforms? And this has all been with AT&T.
- 04-01-2011, 05:02 PM #38
- 04-01-2011, 05:51 PM #39
the Hard line
Thanks but I feel that you are taking a hard line.
I pay 45$ a month as my work requires an enterprise data plan.
For a very infrequent use of tethering I should lose this and go to a 2 gb cap??
I use very little data.
It's a shame that AT&T is so big that a real dialog between users and the company is not possible or that a real contract vs a "one size fits all" cannot be done
- 04-02-2011, 09:33 AM #40
Do I agree with the contract from a personal opinion, not so much. It could be better and more reasonable, however, I made the decision that I could deal with the contact. It will take far more than a few people that disagree with the contract terms to change AT&T's position. It would take a mass of people to do so, a majority of AT&T's users, and will that ever happen? Nope.
My suggestion to everyone out there is to take some initiative, read your contract start to finish, and become knowledgable in what you signed. If you already have, good on you, defend yourself if you have found that you have a defendable position.
- 04-02-2011, 09:49 AM #41
While I agree that the contract may be excessive, we all willingly signed it, so that becomes moot very quickly.
macharborguy, unfortunately everything you have mentioned is indeed exactly right. in fact, even if the whole entire jailbreak community were to try to change AT&T's position it would most definitely not make a difference
i recently jailbroke again and have not loaded MyWi back onto my device... yet
that being said, i guess all i can really say is it was a good run and i am money ahead?
however, what frustrates me is the fact IF i do decide to use AT&T's tethering option i will lose my unlimited data plan
- 04-02-2011, 12:14 PM #43
I am sure no one has any doubt on where I stand on this issue overall, it really bothers me that AT&T wants to have their cake and eat it too. Yes, using the tethering apps without paying for tethering service is a violation of the ToS, and therefore, is morally wrong (IMHO), I can see the other side if the issue - that AT&T is forcing/daring you to use them.
You are paying $30/month for "unlimited" data (that's a whole 'nother discussion), but NOT letting you tether for that $30. And IF you do play by their rules and get a tether plan, you CANNOT have "unlimited" data. That is just plain stupid. AT&T needs to get off the dime and state their position: either you get "unlimited" data for $30 or you don't. They should charge $30 for unlimited data and let you use it however you want. Or they give you 2GB for $20 and let you use that however you want. But the whole concept of charging $20 for tethering AND $20 for 2GB (and $10/GB for overage) is flat out wrong on so many levels...
- 04-03-2011, 01:24 PM #44
- 04-04-2011, 08:48 AM #45
- 04-04-2011, 09:15 AM #46
They did the one size fits all model for over 3 years and we almost brought the network down with exploding data use. It's supply and demand. Demand is high for mobile data and supply is low. They are going to charge more for those who use a lot.
They don't care what you think it should be because you are telling them it's ok by paying them every month. It's nothing personal, it's business. Take your money else where and they will get the message.
- 04-07-2011, 06:25 PM #47
One size fits all
What I mean is that I am on the $45/month enterprise data plan (unlimited) for my work.
The tethering data plan is $45 for 2 gb but is not the enterprise plan.
I cannot tether and keep the enterprise plan.
If I did get the tethering plan AT&T would not make more money.
If this was a deal negotiated between 2 parties, I'm sure that we could reach an understanding, but as I cannot directly deal with an AT&T contract negotiator I cannot resolve this legally.
- 04-08-2011, 12:24 AM #48
I have a question: for those of you who say that theft of paid apps aren't condoned here within this forum (which I agree with by the way) then why is it that so many of you swear by MyWi and othe tethering apps available via Cydia? Wouldn't the use of said apps count as theft of data that we aren't paying for from our carriers?
- 04-08-2011, 12:41 AM #49
Some people cite huge #s thru miwi. Thats just not smart and crosses the line OMHO. They will certainly eventually get caught.
As much as it stinks that ATT is cracking down they could have done it in a much less nice way by delivering a $1000 bill or more for the usage off of the plan. Big red has done that to people occassionaly in the past.
- 04-08-2011, 08:30 AM #50
I agree with you. I was just questioning why so many would praise MyWi in the way that that they do. I'll be honest I've bought the MyWi app and am grandfathered in on AT&T's unlimited data plan. Does that mean I'm using MyWi every waking moment of the day using up crazy amounts of data? No. I've used it a couple of times in the past but always find myself turning it off after a few minutes of use as I feel guilty using a "privilege" that I'm not actually paying for.
Do I think AT&T's pricing structure for those of us who want tethering is fair? Hell no. Not by a long shot.