- 12-01-2010, 11:07 AM #26
if there were to be one thing i "disliked" about jailbreaking it would be the fact that as soon as something goes wrong (battery performance/keyboard lag/app lag/etc..) i'm quick to blame the jailbreak, even though it may have nothing to do with it at all..
then i find myself restoring, re-jailbreaking & adding all my apps/tweaks back on... maybe since i am a rookie (1 year) this is the only way i can have peace of mind
still... i would never go with TeamPure
- 12-01-2010, 12:07 PM #27iMore Intermediate
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But after a month or so with jailbreak i am finding safari using plethora of memory and other apps are left out without any memory and don't run properly.
So my point is... jailbreaking doesnt change basic operation but having some apps that eat mem will cause overall instability.
SBSettings is fantastic to kill safari or any other app eating mem.
- 12-03-2010, 04:36 PM #28
I couldn't have said this better. Most people that are Team Pure have never jailbroken or did it for such a limited amount of time, they don't really know what they're doing, or even know what jailbreaking is or does.
They assume it alters your filesystem in a way that makes it buggy or laggy, and that's far from the case. There's been a few software issues w/ my iPhone that most people would have just taken the phone back to Apple, since I have access to my file system and a few jailbreak tools, I poke around and fix them myself half the time.
As a side note - we are probably going to get nothing but Team jailbreak people in here, I'd say this thread should probably be moved to the general forum so Team Pure members see it and can offer their arguments. I don't think many of them lurk around the jb forums very often
- 12-04-2010, 01:57 PM #29
You can bet your best pair of pants Rob Whitby follows and reinforces all the rules. When operation "frankenpre" went downhill and became legally iffy, the whole thing got pulled immediately.
Of course I still find it hard to believe myself, apple would easily be able to implement these policies legally, or even care to try
-- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums Beta
- 12-04-2010, 02:19 PM #30
The iPhone has problems the Pre does not. Since there are so many iPhone owners, specifically in the US, data usage control is a severe problem. AT&T contractually obligates Apple to limit certain features like video streaming and Facetime. Even if Apple "embraced" homebrew, no one would follow such rules. Even if Apple embraced this type of software, they need to give some type of support for it as well. Have fun with that at the app store.
Palm's customer base is much much lower than Apple's which affords them choices that are not possible for Apple. Any rules Apple would impose would quickly be ignored anyway...
And FYI, pirated apps on WebOS are very easy to install...
- 12-11-2010, 02:57 AM #31
Team Pure here. Lol. Well, not that I'm not willing to change, but let me give u my perspective and go easy on me, I'm interested in jailbreaking. First time I heard about a jailbroken iPhone was that my friends friends iPhone was jailbroken and her phones battery dies like in 3 hours. My gf's sisters phone all of a sudden died on her and it wouldn't turn on. And overall I never hear anybody tell me, "oh hey, it's cool to jailbreak ur phone because blah blah blah"... At least not from anywhere other than us techy forum peeps and if I'm hearing all that stuff, imagine those who don't even come to the forums?
I'm coming from a blackberry and I used to tweak the crap out of that thin with the OS's and stuff. I used to be all over crackberry.com. But the one thing I hated was having to find a problem with the phone because I did something to it and u know now, I just don't have room for problems and having to go back to tweak it again or do a restore and all the stuff.
I read this whole thread and you guys have very good points. Honestly, I don't know what more explaining I want from u guys or what more convincing points I need to convert lol But then again, I'm finding no real reason to jailbreak my phone other than to have free apps (from what I've been told, that's possible). I don't want my iPhone 4's look to change or anything. I don't SMS( believe it or not) and so I dont find a real use to do it. I guess my mindset is like that saying "why fix it if It isn't broken." plus the whole limesnow or jailbreaking names is confusing to me. Who is doing what? Why are they called that and who's better.
I'm not afraid to ask these questions as I believe there are some people that are team pure that are afraid to ask so I'm just shootin it out there.
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- 12-12-2010, 11:56 AM #34
So speaking in a software sense, what does the jailbreak do to the phone. I'm not talking about, "oh it let's u customize it," I'm talking about internally. Why does it cause it to "jailbreak?" (I want facts, not guesses, if you don't know, you don't guess). Lol thanks.
- 12-12-2010, 12:26 PM #35
Recent jailbreaks also include modifying the afc2 (used by iTunes to access the filesystem) so it allows access to the full file system and patching the kernel to get around code signing and other restrictions.
Its all explained in my FAQ...
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- 12-12-2010, 01:23 PM #42
Chris reminds me a little of the guy that goes to the dentist for a cleaning and comes away with a root canal - and spends the rest of his life telling people they should stay away from dentists cause things can go horribly wrong.
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- 12-13-2010, 06:18 PM #46
I'm looking at what the benefits are of having my iPhone 4 jb'd as I've had it done before but restored it after a week when all I did was customise my lock info. I liked it but it felt wrong as weird as it sounds. I know it may well be covered elsewhere but I'm navigating from my device and forums confuse me anyway but I'd love to hear your favourite jailbreak apps and what the do. I hear biteSMS, tlert mentioned. Come on JB's, convince me!! Thanks!
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- 12-14-2010, 08:39 AM #49
I NEED to know what the benefits are and what makes it worth while. I used "convince me" as a figure of speech. Maybe I could have worded that part better to get a helpful reply! Please could someone tell me the benefits so I can make the decision myself. Thank you people?
- 12-14-2010, 09:26 AM #50
1. Being able to install apps from Cydia that take advantage of core iOS functions that Apple won't allow developers to use, such as BiteSMS.
2. Using Cydia to change the look of your UI with winterboard.
3. Using those apps alluded to above to allow you to enjoy real multitasking in operations such as sms.