View Poll Results: Do you care about unlocking the iPhone 3g?
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Yes - I travel out of the country frequently.
Yes - I know 3g is useless on T-Mobile but I don't care.
No - no 3g with T-Mobile... AT&T is where it's at.
No - I just don't care about unlocking PERIOD.
How many of you care about unlocking?
I mean the only purpose unlocking your iPhone 3g would be if you traveled out of the country. There really is no point to buy a iPhone 3g just to unlock it for T-Mobile since 3g would not work. Might as well just pick up a 1st gen iPhone cheap and unlock that for the Edge network. So if you are in the USA do you even care about unlocking?
- 10-27-2008, 11:34 PM #2
I was pretty sure the 3g would only work on ATT or Tmobile. So if you unlock you could get on Tmobile along side the G1, but honestly I can say crap about att all day long, but I think I would rather take att than tmobile if I was given the choice.
- 10-28-2008, 12:06 AM #4
I'm not saying that I'm right, just want to know where you are getting that information so I can be clear on the why.
- 10-28-2008, 12:21 AM #6
Well since I was a kid I always asked a million questions and have never been satisfied with someone saying "it's like this just because it is".
So I did a little googling for more info
List of HSDPA networks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* AT&T is operating a 3G/HSDPA network, called BroadbandConnect, currently in most metropolitan markets. It provides average download speeds of around 1.7 megabits per second (Mbit/s), with bursts up to 3.6 megabits per second (Mbit/s).
* T-Mobile USA is currently rolling out a 3g network in the 1.7/2.1 GHz band.
iPhone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* Tri band UMTS / HSDPA: UMTS 850 / 1900 / 2100
- 10-28-2008, 05:26 AM #7
- 10-28-2008, 08:02 AM #10
I don't care too much as I do not travel out of the country very often. Most times when I am on the other side of the pond, I prefer not to be able to use my phone. I know having cheap data rates available would be nice, but half of the fun of exploring on vacation is getting lost!
- 10-28-2008, 08:40 AM #11
T-Mobile G1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Networks Quad band GSM / GPRS / EDGE: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Dual band UMTS / HSDPA / HSUPA: UMTS 1700 / 2100 (US/Europe) (7.2/2 Mbit/s)
att: 850 1900
So the G1 only does 1700 and 2100 which is in line with tmobile, but att doesn't run either of those so you would be out of luck. The iPhone is a triband phone and does 850, 1900, and 2100 (850 / 1900 for USA att and 2100 for most of the world in one device)
Right now att is mostly 1900, but they are going to start rolling out more on the 850 band which should give a much better signal as the lower frequencies can penetrate walls a lot better.
I did hear an unlock for the 3g is coming soon (IPhone 3G Unlock Coming: iPhone 3G Baseband Break-In, Unlock Closer)
So I guess we'll find out soon enough if my numbers add up to actually being able to use it.
UMTS frequency bands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
3G iPhone May Not Work on T-Mobile 3G Network | The "Break it Down" Blog
"It (iPhone 3g) is missing the critical 1700MHz band that would allow it to work universally on the U.S. carriers 3G networks. So you will be able to use the 3G portion only on ATT, and in Europe. But that would not stop you from cracking the 3G iPhone and using only EDGE on T-mobile’s network becuase it would still need EDGE radio to fall back onto on ATT’s sparse 3G network."
I can sit here all day posting links proving it will not work. But like I said from the very start, it will not work.
Last edited by Jeremy Sikora; 10-28-2008 at 01:34 PM.
- 10-28-2008, 06:44 PM #13
I have to know WHY, it's just in my blood.
- 12-05-2008, 09:45 AM #14
Ah, I don't think I saw that link before, seems like you need both 1700 and 1900 for the tmobile 3g and that explains the "WHY", thanks for the link.
"ATT offers UMTS or 3G using 850mhz(the old TDMA band) and 1900mhz.
While T-mobile offers HSDPA (technically 3.5g part of the UMTS specification) using 1700MHz for uplink and 2100MHz downlink."
- 12-05-2008, 05:53 PM #15
- 12-05-2008, 09:44 PM #16iPhone Newbie
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So maybe it's better off with AT&T customers to go with the IPHONE and the T-mobile customers sticking with the G1....although I have looked at many places where they have installed Opera Mini on the G1 running on EDGE, it was 10x faster still than the Iphone 3g safari browser