Question about iTunes Match & Downloaded Music
Let's say iOS 5 is out, and I decide to subscribe to the $25/year iTunes Match program. If I download an album from a website, and add it to my iTunes library, will it upgrade that album DRM free to 256kbps as stated? Or is it safe to assume that like "find track names" it has to imported via CD to the iTunes library?
PS: Mods, not trying to get illegal music, or ask where to acquire it, I know the rules, and I know where to get music online, just asking about the feature.
- 06-07-2011, 10:43 AM #2
As far as they said at WWDC it should make the 256 version available DRM free. This is why you pay the cashola, I'm guessing this will only be for the songs that are available in iTunes so if you have some obscure or really new song then don't know what will happen then.
- 06-07-2011, 10:51 AM #3
I agree with Ipheuria, and for me it will be a great deal considering the fact that I still have about 1100 DRM tracks from the golden days of iTunes on my computer. I didn't want to spend the $245 when they offered to remove the DRM back during the + transition.
I guess I didn't explain clearly, in an attempt to not come off as breaking the rules of the forum about asking about piracy.
If I pirate an album from a website, and load it into iTunes now, it syncs fine and plays fine and everything. With this new feature, will it "upgrade" this album I've downloaded making it better quality and DRM free?
Assuming that is the case, isn't this a huge step backwards? Seems like Napster all over again only with free upgrades sponsored by Apple.. One person buys the album and rips it, and Apple takes it and upgrades it for you, DRM free so you can then distribute.
- 06-07-2011, 11:39 AM #5
@ Wiltron, that was my thinking as well. I buy all my music, mostly from amazon rather than Apple, but many don't, and I see this as a rather cheap and effective way to get high quality versions of music, with out regard to source.
- 06-07-2011, 11:45 AM #6
Which is why I said as far as I heard no matter where you got the song as long as it's in the iTunes catalogue then it will give you their 256 version DRM free. The money you pay for the service will offset wherever you got the song whether you ripped it from your CDs or whatever. If it's not in the catalogue then you wont get anything. If you have the song in iTunes and you have iTunes OTA sync then possibly it will go to the cloud and out to your other devices. If Apple didn't get the rights to the music aka it's not in their catalogue then they don't have that song.
- 06-07-2011, 11:52 AM #7
This might be a nice feature to pay for one year just to upgrade the quality of your existing music...assuming you get to keep the upgraded file after your subscription ends
- 06-07-2011, 11:58 AM #8
For self defense clarification: I also buy 95% of my music. I think I have one or two albums which were "acquired" by other sources, only because of it not being available on the store.
If the case that many are assuming that the $25 / year covers the cost of illegitimate downloaders getting upgraded music for free, I think it should be more. When an album is averaging $10 each, and most users have at least 30 albums on their iDevice (pulled that number out of my ***, it's probably more), it's a substantial loss. I think Apple is giving its users too much credit in thinking way more users buy rather than download.
- 06-08-2011, 09:15 AM #10
- 06-08-2011, 10:02 AM #11
Hmmm, I would suspect that it would work in the way you describe. I would guess that the music publishers get a taste of that $25 a month. So in the end I suppose they may be getting some time of payment for the music that is downloaded legally or illegally.
- 06-08-2011, 10:15 AM #12
If that is the case, then basically this amounts to the people who have legally ripped music from CD's are subsidizing the people who are illegally downloading music.
It's too bad there can be some sort of "scan CD" option so you can put a legal CD into the computer, and iTunes will do the MusicMatch once and for all.
- 06-08-2011, 11:00 AM #13
My biggest concern for iTunes Match:
I have a huge music library (over 100 gigs) and I have made "tag changes" to lots of my music files/info to unify how everything appears on my iTunes and ios devices (iphone, ipods). I've made tag changes to "artists, albums, album art" etc. . . and they are all organized just the way I like em.
I'm not too sure/confident that once my music library is "copied" onto iCloud via iTunes Match, if my tag changes on my music files will remain the way I have them or if it will "change" to the "default" values set by Apple. If the latter is true, this will be a deal breaker for me.
For now, I don't think anyone knows how this will play out (maybe other than Apple). I guess we'll just wait and see . .
- 06-08-2011, 01:16 PM #14
The way I understand iTunes match to work is that it will scan your existing itunes library and make the entire library available to you to download on all your idevices. If there is a song that apple is missing in their catalog of music, you will have the option to upload that song so that it is also available to download to your other device via icloud.
There will be no streaming option with iCloud. At least not that Apple has mentioned. It will simply be a list of all your songs available to download wherever. Apple has paid the labels and acquired the proper licensees to do this. Them doing this combats the piracy aspect of it. It will not matter how you acquired the music.
Heres a good article that explains how iTunes Match will work.
Apple Announces iCloud Music Service : The Record : NPR
- 06-08-2011, 01:53 PM #15
- 06-08-2011, 02:53 PM #16
I believe that if you want to maintain the iCloud access you have to keep paying the $25. If you just want a one time upgrade to the 256 AAC, you could pay it once and be done, then use the 5GB storage for down load, but then I am not sure what the iTunes access would be, as I am sure the files would only be listed under music as long as you are paying the $25 a year, but that is purely guess based off the information I have seen. For me, this new program is the push to switch to all AAC and iTunes for music, not to mention a way to get upgraded versions of music I got years ago at poor quality before I knew better. I have been waiting as I did not want to have mixed sources, and have been all MP3 till now.
- 06-08-2011, 03:31 PM #17
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