View Poll Results: iTunes 8.2.1 Breaks Palm Pre Sync -- Who's at Fault?
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BOTH! Palm shouldn't have done it, Apple shouldn't have broken it
NEITHER! In the tech game, everything changes
PALM! They shouldn't have hacked the system
APPLE! Way to alienate iTunes users who own Pre
- 07-16-2009, 06:09 AM #26
- 07-16-2009, 07:06 AM #27
- 07-16-2009, 07:10 AM #28
- 07-16-2009, 07:24 AM #29
more than likely Palm will just create another loop-hole that lets Pre users sync with iTunes again. and that cycle of Apple update - Pre update will just continue. the best solution for Palm is to go make their own massive software program that will compete with iTunes. and good luck with that. lol
- 07-16-2009, 09:15 AM #30
Yes, obviously some companies have left bigger holes than others (MS), but no company is perfect.
It's understandable when you are trying to prove you side of an argument you get a little 'amped up', but when you say stuff like "Snack on that" it comes off a little rude.
- 07-16-2009, 10:54 AM #31
There is no law on the books that says breaking and entering (trespassing) is a crime provided the doors are locked, if the doors aren't locked...it's OK to go in. Same with any of the examples you gave, it's not OK. Blame resides on the wrong doer, it's that simple, it's black and white, there are no shades of gray in this (or any of your examples) instance.
- 07-16-2009, 12:05 PM #32
O.R.C. Section 2911.13 Breaking and entering:
(A) No person by force, stealth, or deception, shall trespass in an unoccupied structure, with purpose to commit therein any theft offense, as defined in section 2913.01 of the Revised Code, or any felony.
(B) No person shall trespass on the land or premises of another, with purpose to commit a felony.
(C) Whoever violates this section is guilty of breaking and entering, a felony of the fifth degree.
"Stealth" has been construed to mean sneaking into a structure, whether the structure is locked or unlocked; door open or shut. There actually is a law..."on the books."
- 07-16-2009, 12:22 PM #33
Your reading comprehension needs some work, or perhaps my writing does, either way, you just proved my point.
There is no law on the books that says "breaking and entering (trespassing) is a crime provided the doors are locked, if the doors aren't locked...it's OK to go in".
Doors being locked would have to be an element of the crime in my example.
- 07-16-2009, 12:41 PM #34
In this hypothetical, Apple left the door open and Palm went in. What Palm did would be considered a crime (in the breaking & entering sense). You can't just walk into someone's house because the door is open with the intent to commit a felony. If you do that, you're guilty. Doesn't matter if the door is open or shut. I think you could consider Palm a thief here. If that's what you meant, I agree. My earlier hypotheticals were a play on someone ele's response to my first post.
Rene's question is: iTunes breaks Palm Pre Sync-who's at fault? The question isn't whether Palm is a thief. I don't think the term "fault" really applies here. Apple left the door open. Palm exploited it. I think there is a consensus in the forum that people don't blame Palm for doing it. Apple put a stop to it. Palm will find a work around. And around we go. Cat and mouse, just like the jailbreakers.
Perhaps Rene's question should have been framed: Was Palm wrong to leech iTunes, and do you blame Apple for blocking them? It seems to me from reading the comments that is the question people are really kind of answering. Then again, my reading comprehension (and a few other things) need work
- 07-16-2009, 12:52 PM #35
- 07-16-2009, 01:13 PM #36
Actually, how's this: Was Palm wrong to leech iTunes, and SHOULD Apple have blocked them?
Apple can do whatever they want with their software (and app approval process, and everything else) and that's all well and good; however, by locking Palm out do they run the risk of losing ground to more open source minded companies like Google?
- 07-16-2009, 09:13 PM #37iPhone Nanite
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In my opinion, Apple made a decision that could potentially hurt them in the long run. Apple is essentially pushing current and future pre user's away from iTunes. Those pre users will, with out a doubt, look at other options for purchasing their media on the future.
- 07-17-2009, 10:16 AM #38
- 07-19-2009, 02:44 PM #39
- 07-19-2009, 02:59 PM #40