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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguarr40 View Post
    I prefer Navigon myself as well but giving the short ammount of time that the Native Apple maps has been out it is not as bad as people say and as long as we keep reporting mistakes we find by reporting them to Apple via the reporting link within the app i truly think this app will really be a great app but it is up to us to work with Apple in taking control of this.

    How many times can we say that Apple gives us the ability to have a proactive approach along with them to help make an app better. I love it and will do my share to help Apple with anything they ask help with.
    I'm not bashing the app. I use it everyday and sometimes just because. I've reported probably 50-75 errors to help them out. I was just saying not sure I trust it for cross country yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellimel2212 View Post
    Lol how did Google do it with not just maps but Google EARTH lol

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    They have almost 7,000 employees on maps alone and a multi-year head start, that's how. When google first started, their maps were complete garbage.
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    Over the last couple of years, I have been amazed at how quickly Google has updated their maps for new and/or rerouted roads. How do they get this information updated so quickly?

    In contrast, My 2012 BMW navigation update still doesn't have roads that were opened back in 2010. If Apple relies on TomTom or other GPS providers how are they ever going to keep up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by battrl View Post
    Over the last couple of years, I have been amazed at how quickly Google has updated their maps for new and/or rerouted roads. How do they get this information updated so quickly?

    In contrast, My 2012 BMW navigation update still doesn't have roads that were opened back in 2010. If Apple relies on TomTom or other GPS providers how are they ever going to keep up?
    Google updates their maps via 4 ways.

    1. They have partners from whom they license data. They do this for countries where they do not have a large presence. China is an example of this.
    2. They send out cars with cameras and GPS to take photos of pretty much all major metropolitan areas and suburban areas.
    3. They use satellite imagery to help them make corrections if needed.
    4. They use crowd sourcing to help them keep up with POI and rapid changes to roads


    Apple has Tom Tom as their partner, who generally does a very good job in the areas they have a large presence. They have other partners of course. I believe in China, they have partnered with a company called Gaode. They also use satellite imagery to make corrections to major roads and large POI. Finally, they also use crowd sourcing to help them correct POI, addresses, and incorrect street information. Crowd sourcing really has been the difference for Google in making their maps as good as it is. You have to remember, they've had as many as almost 400 million iOS users, and probably at least that many Android users moving around and helping them make corrections for the past 4 years. Give Apple some time, some data, and Apple's maps will improve in short order. One thing Apple will still lack though, is Street View, since that would require Apple to send out cars to literally take photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo Zilla View Post
    Google updates their maps via 4 ways.

    1. They have partners from whom they license data. They do this for countries where they do not have a large presence. China is an example of this.
    2. They send out cars with cameras and GPS to take photos of pretty much all major metropolitan areas and suburban areas.
    3. They use satellite imagery to help them make corrections if needed.
    4. They use crowd sourcing to help them keep up with POI and rapid changes to roads


    Apple has Tom Tom as their partner, who generally does a very good job in the areas they have a large presence. They have other partners of course. I believe in China, they have partnered with a company called Gaode. They also use satellite imagery to make corrections to major roads and large POI. Finally, they also use crowd sourcing to help them correct POI, addresses, and incorrect street information. Crowd sourcing really has been the difference for Google in making their maps as good as it is. You have to remember, they've had as many as almost 400 million iOS users, and probably at least that many Android users moving around and helping them make corrections for the past 4 years. Give Apple some time, some data, and Apple's maps will improve in short order. One thing Apple will still lack though, is Street View, since that would require Apple to send out cars to literally take photos.
    Apple should take a page out of Nokia's books and strike deals with FedEx and UPS to use their trucks as data collectors. Probably the easiest and fastest way to keep data up to date.
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    Thanks. It's good to know improvements are being made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Droid800 View Post
    They have almost 7,000 employees on maps alone and a multi-year head start, that's how. When google first started, their maps were complete garbage.
    Head start smead start lol apple is the richest american company and has the money and resources to have made a better maps than that if Google not to mention TomTom and multiple 3rd party apps (new and old)did it they could've done it also. Maybe if they spent that court time on maps than they could lol . Sorry had do say it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellimel2212 View Post
    Head start smead start lol apple is the richest american company and has the money and resources to have made a better maps than that if Google not to mention TomTom and multiple 3rd party apps (new and old)did it they could've done it also. Maybe if they spent that court time on maps than they could lol . Sorry had do say it

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    You apparently have zero understanding of how mapping works. When google started their maps stunk. They were absolutely awful. The only remedy is time to gather data. No amount of money will help that happen quickly.

    Now, why don't you take your fandroid self back to android central.
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    So I guess tom tom and all the others sucked too huh man please thats just u making excuses for apple. All I'm saying is no map system Google tom tom ect sucked the way apple maps did PERIOD

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    Never a phandroid just got common sense and aware of tech iOS or android I've used the 4 4s and 5 so I'm not just talking out my anal here

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    It's funny but... the biggest critics of Apple maps seem to be from people who don't have iPhones. I don't get it. That's like complaining about Acuras because you drive a Lexus.
    There are some people who for some strange reason, that if they're on a diet, they don't want you to eat a cupcake. If you do eat a cupcake, all they want to do is tell you that it tastes bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo Zilla View Post
    It's funny but... the biggest critics of Apple maps seem to be from people who don't have iPhones. I don't get it. That's like complaining about Acuras because you drive a Lexus.
    Especially the Maps app. Which has been no worse in performance than my Garmin Nuvi765t.
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    Where I am at, I love the Maps app. And I'm in Northwest Indiana.

    I've found no errors and it works well for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellimel2212 View Post
    So I guess tom tom and all the others sucked too huh man please thats just u making excuses for apple. All I'm saying is no map system Google tom tom ect sucked the way apple maps did PERIOD

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    You obviously didn't use google maps when it first started. It was as bad as apples effort, and actually worse in many many ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellimel2212 View Post
    So I guess tom tom and all the others sucked too huh man please thats just u making excuses for apple. All I'm saying is no map system Google tom tom ect sucked the way apple maps did PERIOD

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    Uh, yeah, it did. Google maps was a putrid pile of dog poo when it first launched. The big difference was that there wasn’t anything to compare it to in those days.
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    I've never had a problem with maps or turn by turn.
    This probably could be credited to the fact that I've been using it in San Francisco, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausty82 View Post
    Uh, yeah, it did. Google maps was a putrid pile of dog poo when it first launched. The big difference was that there wasn’t anything to compare it to in those days.
    Compare the last version of Google maps on iOS to Google maps on Android, the iOS version has always been a putrid pile of dog poo

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    I've never had a problem with maps or turn by turn.
    This probably could be credited to the fact that I've been using it in San Francisco, however.
    I've used the Map app in SW Wisconsin Amish country, where you're just as likely to see a horse drawn buggy as another car and the Map app performs just fine - in fact comparable to my Garmin Nuvi765t.
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    I've been using Maps for several weeks now in the Charleston, SC area and it has worked very well. It will only get better with time. Anyone who is that unhappy with Apple can always switch to an Android phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausty82 View Post
    Uh, yeah, it did. Google maps was a putrid pile of dog poo when it first launched. The big difference was that there wasnt anything to compare it to in those days.
    OK its funny out of the diff map apps I said u still see google lol. OK Google maps might have but what bout tom tom navigon or the plenty plenty others did they suck also....

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