1. Ziich47's Avatar
    Not interested in the S8. At least the S7 let you decide between a normal screen or their "Edge" curved screen stuff. Now, the choice is made for you.

    Also don't care for the off-center fingerprint reader right next to the camera. High and off center, probably not ideal for both right or left handed use. Seems like an afterthought, like they ran out of time trying to imbed the scanner under the screen along with the home button. Camera is just a carry over. Probably leftover Note 7 units. Battery is pretty small, considering the processor, and size and resolution of the display it's powering. And I have less than zero interest in Samsung's own versions of software we can already get from Google. Why would I want Bixby over Google Assistant? Or Samsung Pay over Wallet?

    No thanks. I think the LG G6 is much more attractive, physically and features wise.
    While most of your points are valid There are two things I would like to correct..
    1. The camera sensor on the s8 is actually different from the one found on the Note 7 (imx 330 vs the imx 260)

    2. Samsung Pay is more capable than either the Apple Pay or Android Pay in that it is able to interface with terminals that only accept magnetic strip cards (which is still a majority of stores)
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    04-02-2017 08:07 PM
  2. AugustVance's Avatar
    I see. Do you keep a mental note of what phones all your contacts have because I pretty much only know the type of phone of 4 people, 2 parents and my best friend? Plus only one, my mom, is an iphone. All the others i've no idea of phone type and because of that i just enter their name and hit send with trying to pick a messaging system according to their phone.

    What are the "benefits of ios 10?" Can you send better video? I have ios 10 and tried to send a 2 minute video filmed on my iphone and couldn't the other day. But the person i was sending it two was my best friend on an android phone so imessage wasn't even an option. Which again illustrates my indifference to it.

    I wouldn't say I remember phones, but I do have the capacity to remember who does/doesn't have an iOS device. I don't talk to everyone in my contact list daily.

    I would say, everything that was added to messages in iOS 10 would be a benefit. Stickers, apps, one could say even the games. But it's takes someone to actually use the services to say they are good.

    However, yes to the video question. Sending/receiving video through iMessage yields way better quality than through mms. That's proven knowledge.
    04-02-2017 08:26 PM
  3. jmr1015's Avatar
    While most of your points are valid There are two things I would like to correct..
    1. The camera sensor on the s8 is actually different from the one found on the Note 7 (imx 330 vs the imx 260)
    Is that official? I thought it was rumored to be a 333, but no official word yet.

    2. Samsung Pay is more capable than either the Apple Pay or Android Pay in that it is able to interface with terminals that only accept magnetic strip cards (which is still a majority of stores)
    That little bit of added capability is not enough for me to trust Samsung with my financials, over Google or Apple. Google Wallet works at most establishments I frequent, as does Apple Pay. Samsung Pay might be a draw for some. But not for me.
    04-02-2017 08:44 PM
  4. Ziich47's Avatar
    Is that official? I thought it was rumored to be a 333, but no official word yet.



    That little bit of added capability is not enough for me to trust Samsung with my financials, over Google or Apple. Google Wallet works at most establishments I frequent, as does Apple Pay. Samsung Pay might be a draw for some. But not for me.
    Concerning the camera? Yes, Erica Griffin's Video on the device confirms this.

    Concerning samsung pay, I respect your preferences, I was simply pointing out the difference btw them.
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    04-02-2017 08:56 PM
  5. jmr1015's Avatar
    Concerning the camera? Yes, Erica Griffin's Video on the device confirms this.

    Concerning samsung pay, I respect your preferences, I was simply pointing out the difference btw them.
    Ah okay awesome. I love her reviews.
    04-02-2017 09:12 PM
  6. Jude526's Avatar
    Having been Android and Samsung 12 yrs switching to Apple was a breath of fresh air. And having visited an Apple Store for the first time today seeing firsthand the great customer care I am still happy. It's all about personal preference. There are diehard Samsung customers and they will defend to the very core. Same with Apple. Both platforms have great devices to offer their customers
    But with the negative experience I had recently am still glad I switched to Apple. Two family members made the move. A third might be happening. I need dependability and SECURUTY. I know I have it in Apple
    04-02-2017 11:30 PM
  7. Brian Embry's Avatar
    I use a Nexus 6. I love Samsung's build quality and feel of their phones but, I don't like their UI. I am seriously considering the new iPhone. In speed test after speed test, the iPhone with the integration of hardware and software beats the Samsungs continually. Would love to get a Pixel XL but, they seem to be almost nonexistent. So as I am open minded about tech, I will take a close and hard look at the new iPhone. I do love the MacBook that I use and the synergy of the Apple ecosystem would more than likely make life and work a little easier on me...

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    04-03-2017 12:20 AM
  8. Derrick4Real's Avatar
    I wouldn't say I remember phones, but I do have the capacity to remember who does/doesn't have an iOS device. I don't talk to everyone in my contact list daily.

    I would say, everything that was added to messages in iOS 10 would be a benefit. Stickers, apps, one could say even the games. But it's takes someone to actually use the services to say they are good.

    However, yes to the video question. Sending/receiving video through iMessage yields way better quality than through mms. That's proven knowledge.
    oh i'm sure you are capable of remembering all the devices. Me? shoot, i only end up texting a few people in my contact list anyways. And only two regularly and he doesn't have an iphone. I only know because he discusses tech with me and two, he is not a fan of iphones or generally apple things so i know. My mother I know her phone because i bought it for her. Other than that I'm just happy to not have to think about that level of detail.

    I'll be honesty i didn't know about the apps and games in messaging. I don't even really know how that works but i'll certainly google it just to see what it's all about. I think i know about stickers but it's not something i think i would use.
    04-03-2017 03:37 AM
  9. AlekseyShavman's Avatar
    I think Samsung is better company Iphone is very disappointing in the discovery of new technologies
    04-03-2017 11:51 AM
  10. dov1978's Avatar
    While most of your points are valid There are two things I would like to correct..
    1. The camera sensor on the s8 is actually different from the one found on the Note 7 (imx 330 vs the imx 260)

    2. Samsung Pay is more capable than either the Apple Pay or Android Pay in that it is able to interface with terminals that only accept magnetic strip cards (which is still a majority of stores)
    Maybe in the US but here in the UK and most of Europe (possibly the world) Chip and pin made the magnetic strip obsolete and nowhere uses that outdated system anymore so Samsung Pay offers nothing better than Apple Pay or Android Pay.
    04-03-2017 01:56 PM
  11. badelhas's Avatar
    I hope each company learns from one another to make betters smartphones. Any of them is a great device, with it´s own advantages...

    Cheers
    04-03-2017 04:00 PM
  12. Matty's Avatar
    I want to know what you all think Apple need to do to yet again make a device that raises the bar or changes the game?
    The first thing could be battery life. This is still a very key spec in smartphones today and people scrutinise that mAh size in phones. Especially when they are talking about QHD+ displays and 6.2" inches. So if Apple were able to make their 4.7" size last as long as the Plus Model, thats would be a great feature for me.

    The second would be increased resolution. Make the 4.7" inch have a 1080p screen. I know Apple like their 326 PPI but with VR slowly becoming more popular. A higher res screen would be pretty awesome. 1440p on the Plus model. Additionally, OLED please Apple

    Slimmer Bezels. At least on the Plus model. The device is pretty big and i think it would appeal to more people if it was easier to hold in the hand
    04-07-2017 01:20 AM
  13. T48's Avatar
    Not interested in the S8. At least the S7 let you decide between a normal screen or their "Edge" curved screen stuff. Now, the choice is made for you.

    Also don't care for the off-center fingerprint reader right next to the camera. High and off center, probably not ideal for both right or left handed use. Seems like an afterthought, like they ran out of time trying to imbed the scanner under the screen along with the home button.

    Why would I want Bixby over Google Assistant?
    Synaptics is the co that Samsung dumped cash in to imbed the fps under the screen. So yes, am guessing when that was not ready for mass market, the fps had to be moved around back. Maybe the tech will be ready for the Note 8 is release? That said, cannot imagine Apple taking a big risk on their anniversary device this fall & their oled screens are already ordered from Samsung. So they too may have to put the fps elsewhere.

    Also from what I can gather, Bixby will do different things than Google Assistant as well as be implemented across their entire line of electronics from phones, tv's, fridges etc. Samsung purchased Viv labs last fall & Viv labs are the creators of Siri. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viv_(software)
    04-07-2017 10:10 AM
  14. jmr1015's Avatar
    Synaptics is the co that Samsung dumped cash in to imbed the fps under the screen. So yes, am guessing when that was not ready for mass market, the fps had to be moved around back. Maybe the tech will be ready for the Note 8 is release? That said, cannot imagine Apple taking a big risk on their anniversary device this fall & their oled screens are already ordered from Samsung. So they too may have to put the fps elsewhere.

    Also from what I can gather, Bixby will do different things than Google Assistant as well as be implemented across their entire line of electronics from phones, tv's, fridges etc. Samsung purchased Viv labs last fall & Viv labs are the creators of Siri. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viv_(software)
    Neither of those explanations make me want those features any more. I'd imagine if Apple can't integrate the FPS under a display (if that is their intention) then they would stick with its current location, in the home button. I don't see Apple slapping it off center next to the camera.

    As for Bixby, regardless of what they have it tied in to (I currently own zero Samsung devices) I personally don't need another option in personal assistants. If I go Android, Google Assistant is great. If I go Apple, Siri is great. Nothing draws me to Bixby over Google assistant whatsoever. I'm also not drawn to iOS for Siri, Siri just happens to come with iOS... so Bixby being made by Viv means little to me.

    I'm not saying the S8 is a terrible device for everyone. But for me personally, is does little to draw my interest, and actually has some features I straight up don't like. I'd go LG G6 if I was in the market for a new Android flagship this year.
    Last edited by jmr1015; 04-07-2017 at 05:21 PM.
    04-07-2017 10:41 AM
  15. badelhas's Avatar
    Neither of those explanations make me want those features any more. I'd imagine if Apple can't integrate the FPS under a display (if that is their intention) then they would stick with its current location, in the home button. I don't see Apple slapping it off center next to the camera.

    As for Bixby, regardless of what they have it tied in to (I currently own zero Samsung devices) I personally don't need another option in personal assistants. If I go Android, Google Assistant is great. If I go Apple, Siri is great. Nothing draws me to Bixby over Google assistant whatsoever. I'm also not drawn to iOS for Siri, Siri just happens to come with iOS... so Bixby being made by Viv means little to me.

    I'm not saying the S8 is a terrible device for everyone. But for me personally, is does little to draw my interest, and actually has some features I straight up don't like. If go G6 if I was in the market for a new Android flagship this year.
    I have to agree on that. The fingerprint position is ridiculous. But Apple can learn a thing or two with Samsung great screens.
    04-07-2017 03:30 PM
  16. Adawg1203's Avatar
    I have to agree on that. The fingerprint position is ridiculous. But Apple can learn a thing or two with Samsung great screens.
    I believe Apple did learn. Didn't they elect to go with Samsung's OLED display for the next iPhone?
    04-07-2017 05:34 PM
  17. badelhas's Avatar
    I believe Apple did learn. Didn't they elect to go with Samsung's OLED display for the next iPhone?
    Let's hope so.
    04-07-2017 10:20 PM
  18. Brian Embry's Avatar
    I believe Apple did learn. Didn't they elect to go with Samsung's OLED display for the next iPhone?
    Samsung makes the best displays. I've owned a couple of Samsungs. The S7 Edge display is beautiful.

    I think that iron sharpens iron. That Samsung can cause Apple to look at the iPhone and improve some aspects. Same with Apple causing the same reaction in Android OEMs.

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    04-07-2017 11:01 PM
  19. Adawg1203's Avatar
    Samsung makes the best displays. I've owned a couple of Samsungs. The S7 Edge display is beautiful.

    I think that iron sharpens iron. That Samsung can cause Apple to look at the iPhone and improve some aspects. Same with Apple causing the same reaction in Android OEMs.

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
    Totally agree. And what you stated is the beauty of competition!
    04-08-2017 02:47 AM
  20. SyedWaqasHassan's Avatar
    Totally agree with you they have to do some changes ...
    04-08-2017 04:59 AM
  21. badelhas's Avatar
    Totally agree. And what you stated is the beauty of competition!
    Exactly. And we don't need more monopolies, we need proper competition indeed!

    Cheers
    04-08-2017 09:55 AM
  22. TG_USMC_VET's Avatar
    There are several things I'd like to see like much smaller bezels. But, I don't think Apple needs to do anything groundbreaking to be able to compete with the S8! I feel like the majority of the iPhone customer base will flock to the new iPhone because it's the new iPhone. Maybe I'm just speaking for myself.

    Add some new awesome features that have previously not been offered in an iPhone and you're looking at record sales yet again!
    Absolutely! iPhones will sale regardless!..
    Yesterday 09:28 AM
  23. dov1978's Avatar
    May I ask do you live outside of the U.S.? I live in the U.S., imessage is turned on I don't know anybody that doesn't have unlimited text so i've never ever had anyone even ask me what messaging i'm using. I type a name and hit send. whether it's sms or imessage i don't pay attention to. And maybe in other places I'm thinking they plans don't come with unlimited texting or your texting out of your country and maybe imessage is a free way to do that?
    Most people have unlimited sms outside the US too but the difference is when people want to share photos etc. MMS at least here in the UK is very expensive and isn't included in your plan so if you're having an sms conversation with someone and you want to send a picture you either have to switch apps or pay through the nose to send it. With iMessage you don't even need to think about it as media files are sent free because it's using a data connection. So here in the UK for example people on Android or iPhone users talking to people on Android tend to use WhatsApp instead because it's free to send media

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