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    Well I love tech and wanted to give the iPhone a try and used my jump on demand at t-mobile and got the ip7. I'm really trying to like this phone but there are so many limitations with it.

    No real customization what so ever. The lack of a real back button is frustrating. The image quality from the camera is not that great. The keyboard is atrocious. The fact that you can't download files is another thing that's mind boggling. You can't side load apps with out apple blocking it even though it's your phone. This is some of my observations. Also no real widgets.

    The one thing I can say I like is how the apple does release the os on set date and time.

    I really want to like this device, but it is not meeting up to its expectations.
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    Well, at the end of the day you might realise that an Android phone would serve you better. It is not the phone or the OS that is the issue, it is what you plan to do with it and what UX actually makes you productive.

    So no good phone or bad phone - just one fits while the other does not.

    FWIW
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    Give it a few days. Everyone feels differently and the iPhone may not be the right device to meet your use cases.

    Welcome to imore!
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    Welcome to iMore!

    Those are all valid observations but you must understand that iOS is not, and will never be, like Android. You can download Swiftkey, if you used that on your Android devices (I did, it was a no-brainer for me to use it on iOS too) and that may alleviate your keyboard concerns.

    You get used to not having a back button. Trust me, if you stick around, after a while you'll not even notice it is missing.

    The fact that you can't sideload apps is a plus, in my opinion. It means that iOS is potentially far more secure than Android. Just looks at the recent legal cases against Apple by the FBI etc trying to get into iPhones That just does not happen with Android.

    I feel you on the file downloading. I wish I could too but then that goes against the security point above, so it will never happen. You can get apps to download files into. I use Goodreader for .pdfs, .docs and many more. You can link it to many of the popular loud storage apps to help facilitate moving docs about. Again, after a while you get used to it.

    The camera is something only you can solve though. I think my phones give me adequate pictures. If I want top-end photos, I pull out my Nikon but for a point-and-shoot camera in my back pocket, it's perfectly fine for me. If you want a high-end camera in your phone then you are going to have to look back at Android.

    the thing is, iPhones are either love or hate. If you come from Android, you either except the 'imitations' Apple puts on their devices in the name of security, or stability, or whatever, and appreciate what you have is a phone that largely 'just works' without tinkering under the hood, or, you go back to Android to get the exact user experience you desire.

    Either way, as an Android and iOS owner myself, they are two totally different ecosystems that cater to different people with different requirements.

    You pays yer money, yer takes yer choice.
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    Return it and get something you really enjoy.
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    Welcome to iMore, I kind of feel you went into it comparing it to android. You didn't really give it a fair try. Everyone knows android is better at customization so you knew that from the beginning. You should of just stuck with your android if you wasn't going to give it a fair try. Just my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by justins24 View Post
    Well I love tech and wanted to give the iPhone a try and used my jump on demand at t-mobile and got the ip7. I'm really trying to like this phone but there are so many limitations with it.

    No real customization what so ever. The lack of a real back button is frustrating. The image quality from the camera is not that great. The keyboard is atrocious. The fact that you can't download files is another thing that's mind boggling. You can't side load apps with out apple blocking it even though it's your phone. This is some of my observations. Also no real widgets.

    The one thing I can say I like is how the apple does release the os on set date and time.

    I really want to like this device, but it is not meeting up to its expectations.
    what device did you own before?
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    I was using the note 7 but we all know how that turned out. I was originally not going to get the IP7 but decided to because I wanted to give it a fair shot as I am sure some of you may have used android before but moved over to the iphone. I have 13 days now to return it and will still give it a try for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justins24 View Post
    I was using the note 7 but we all know how that turned out. I was originally not going to get the IP7 but decided to because I wanted to give it a fair shot as I am sure some of you may have used android before but moved over to the iphone. I have 13 days now to return it and will still give it a try for now.
    I used Apple for 3 years. Then Android for three years. And now I'm using Apple again.

    And let me tell you, all of your concerns are valid. I adapt quickly. So i did. And i started seeing things at which the iPhone was better and tried to forget about the compromises. The only pros I found were that the hardware ages flawlessly and that the apps work smoother and better on the iPhone.

    Have to mention here too that I really really believe from the bottom of my heart that material design and app designs are better on Android. But none of the Apple people agree with me. Anyways.

    Because I adapted well I asked a friend to give the iPhone a shot too after using Android from the beginning. And he had the EXACT issues you're having. He couldn't do it. He switched back to Android. And i remember the message he sent the day he went back. It was 'It feels like I'm home again. I can finally breathe'.

    Give it a try. IPhone isn't for everyone. Android is definitely built for everyone. But sadly it doesn't have the Apple logo on it so it eliminates a few percentage of people. If you don't like it then return it.
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    The battery is pretty damn good though.
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    I, too, have given android 2-3 "fair shakes" and could never truly love it. It was too laggy and buggy for me. And too fragmented so I couldn't get updates or have consistency across devices. And this is coming from someone who was obsessed with jailbreaking and tweaking devices for years. I thought android would work great for me.

    My husband love android. Refused to try iPhone until his LG G4 suddenly crapped out and he had to use my 6s for a few weeks. He, like you, could not adjust. But he really never gave it a chance. Not sure that he would ever give it a chance, but whatever. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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    I liked android also but have been iPhone since the screens got bigger (iPhone 6 plus, 6s and now the 7). I came from the note 2. It was a good phone but I don't miss the pen or anything really. Actually I do miss split screen, that is the only thing I miss.
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    You said iPhone 7 doesn't live up to its expectations. You're wrong it does. It just doesn't live up to your expectations

    Edit: also why is a screen full of widgets not good enough widgets? I rather have them in one place then lose them on multiple screens like android does
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    I have tried and enjoyed both operating systems. I've even used a windows phone and didn't mind that either except for the lousy app support. As others have said, to really give it a fair try will take several days. When I switched to iPhone from Android, I wanted to return it so badly the first few days but now if I try to go back to android I can't. Both are good platforms, but iOS works best for me. Good luck with your decision. You'll end up with something good one way or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noaim View Post
    You said iPhone 7 doesn't live up to its expectations. You're wrong it does. It just doesn't live up to your expectations
    Agree. I love mine and I came from iPhone 6s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justins24 View Post
    Well I love tech and wanted to give the iPhone a try and used my jump on demand at t-mobile and got the ip7. I'm really trying to like this phone but there are so many limitations with it.

    No real customization what so ever. The lack of a real back button is frustrating. The image quality from the camera is not that great. The keyboard is atrocious. The fact that you can't download files is another thing that's mind boggling. You can't side load apps with out apple blocking it even though it's your phone. This is some of my observations. Also no real widgets.

    The one thing I can say I like is how the apple does release the os on set date and time.

    I really want to like this device, but it is not meeting up to its expectations.
    Since the 7 plus is back ordered, will be interested to see what your view is in another 10 days if you keep it that long. I too am currently on the android side. But want to give a fair shot between, well the 7's from Apple & Samsung.

    Curiously & think I am the only person that ever asks this. Is there difference in signal/reception for you between your Note 7 & your iPhone 7?
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    Prior to having an iPhone I was a die-hard android user. I never would have made the switch. I was very anti iPhone. Prior to that it was blackberry. I can say that I have been on an iPhone since the 5 was released, having purchased the 4s and then getting the 5 not long after. So I have had the 4s,5,5s,6 plus and 6s plus prior to getting the 7 plus. I could never go back to android. It just does not work as efficiently as an iPhone does. At all. That is just my opinion. If you want your phone to do what android devices do, you should consider going back to an android device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justins24 View Post
    I was using the note 7 but we all know how that turned out. I was originally not going to get the IP7 but decided to because I wanted to give it a fair shot as I am sure some of you may have used android before but moved over to the iphone. I have 13 days now to return it and will still give it a try for now.
    You really need to give it some time. It's different with different strengths and weaknesses. You'll get it, and begin to appreciate it I'm sure.
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    I am anxious on how the experience will go for me as well. I've been an android user since the day the first Droid came out. Ordered the Iphone 7 plus and should be here next week. MY gf talked me into giving it a shot so had to return the note 7 anyways so decided why not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justins24 View Post
    Well I love tech and wanted to give the iPhone a try and used my jump on demand at t-mobile and got the ip7. I'm really trying to like this phone but there are so many limitations with it.

    No real customization what so ever. The lack of a real back button is frustrating. The image quality from the camera is not that great. The keyboard is atrocious. The fact that you can't download files is another thing that's mind boggling. You can't side load apps with out apple blocking it even though it's your phone. This is some of my observations. Also no real widgets.

    The one thing I can say I like is how the apple does release the os on set date and time.

    I really want to like this device, but it is not meeting up to its expectations.
    I feel you. I recently bought an iPhone SE for the wifey who wanted a second, smaller phone for when leaving the house and I ran into limitations that were pretty frustrating. Her daily phone is the pink Note 4 N910C.

    The gallery app is a huge friggin mess b/c despite moving pics into albums, the pics still exist inside the Camera Roll and if I delete the pics inside the Roll, they also get deleted inside the albums. I find that very stupid & unintuitive.

    The lack of a back button - hardware or software - is also inconvenient. Even on the small 4" iPhone SE, having to stretch my hand every time to go back is a pain.

    And as you mentioned, the lack of customization options feels very stuffy & suffocating (no deep automation apps like Tasker and Macrodroid, no truly custom keyboards, no personal homescreens, no way to change icons, etc).

    But the iPhone has good points too, I have learned. I love its superb battery standby time (Google has serious wakelock issues), decent camera, and prompt app updates.

    When at home, my wife uses the Note 4 but carries the iPhone SE when going out b/c it fits better into her bags & clothes.

    If Apple would make a few changes, I would consider trying the iPhone as my daily driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justins24 View Post
    Well I love tech and wanted to give the iPhone a try and used my jump on demand at t-mobile and got the ip7. I'm really trying to like this phone but there are so many limitations with it.

    No real customization what so ever. The lack of a real back button is frustrating. The image quality from the camera is not that great. The keyboard is atrocious. The fact that you can't download files is another thing that's mind boggling. You can't side load apps with out apple blocking it even though it's your phone. This is some of my observations. Also no real widgets.

    The one thing I can say I like is how the apple does release the os on set date and time.

    I really want to like this device, but it is not meeting up to its expectations.
    I have tried to go the other direction, and had a whole list of stumbling blocks similar to your own. You simply can't go from Android to iPhone or vice versa and expect them to fit the same use case. They are different designs with their own set of goals. Apple aims for a simple, valuable user experience. There's generally a very good reason for a particular limitation, whether it be for security, simplicity, preventing a bad user experience, or otherwise. And within the guidelines they set, they try to make the experience delightful, consistent, and easy. Not a whole lot of controls, just a simple button tap or two to take a good picture, record a quick memo, or shoot a presentation off to a coworker.

    For instance, customization. I know on Android you can even change the launcher and the dialer if you wanted to, and probably could get yourself in a lot of trouble if you didn't know what you were doing. Apple very intentionally limits how much you can customize so that it's really hard to get the iPhone into a state where you can't use it or can't figure out what's going on. But what is it that you actually want to customize? I mean, you can have an incredibly unique experience tailored specifically to you on an iPhone by installing and using your favorite apps and letting them populate the widget area to the left of the home screen, or the proactive assistance features littered through the system. It takes some time for it to learn what you do, since it isn't stored on the cloud as it would be with, for instance, Google Now. iOS 10's getting better at it, and as time goes on I'm sure they'll be opening up even more extensions to developers. They do these things slowly but surely to make it more powerful without making it harder to use, and without opening up too many bugs. Doing it the "right" way, as some would say.

    To me, a back button that always takes up space is not nearly as useful as thoughtfully designed apps that accept back gestures from just about anywhere on the screen. In many apps, a swipe from the left side of the screen toward the right navigates backward. On the 6s and 7, a "deep" swipe from the left switches back and forth between the most recently used apps (3D touch app switching). In some apps, like Twitter for instance, when viewing a photo from someone's post, you can get back to the previous view just by throwing the image up or down. I like that better than having to reach a button that's always in the same spot, since I don't have to move my thumb from the app. On the other hand, I can appreciate Android's approach to a universal "back" stack and kinda feel like the deep link back/forward arrows iOS threw into last version are a bit wonky and cause conflicts with actual back buttons in the nav bars.

    I'm no photographer, but I've generally had better luck with getting great photos on an iPhone than I have with an Android. Any phone can take a bad picture, and these days most phones can also take good pictures. This is very much dependent on where and what you're shooting. Low light is pretty hard for any phone save for maybe the Lumia 1520. I have enough of a problem with the camera bump as it is, I don't want a big 5" lens hanging off of my phone that it needs to be able to take in a lot of light, so that's one area which will always be a problem for phones until somebody breaks the laws of physics. In many reviews I read, the iPhone's camera is consistently praised because of the decisions Apple makes with regard to automatic image processing and post processing. Again, that goes to Apple's goal of the simple and consistent user experience. Push a button, take a picture, and that picture is usually pretty good without having to fart around with it. Pro camera apps might add some manual controls that are to your liking if you prefer--these are even getting RAW support nowadays.

    Keyboard is highly subjective, as with many other things. You can try a new keyboard app, or you can give it some time and practice. I've been an iPhone user since the original, so I'm pretty well used to the keyboard, and find it hard to try any others besides the native keyboard. Those swiping keyboards, for instance. I can't seem to retrain my brain to use them, though I've got friends and family that swear by them and will hammer out a text or email easy peasy. I don't know that they're any faster than me with my old fashioned iPhone keyboard. Especially when I know what I want to say. :P

    Downloading--you can, it's just not a shared downloads folder. You have to copy it to each app you want to use it in, due to sandboxing. Apps are heavily sandboxed to prevent a lot of security and privacy issues. And it really just depends on what you want to download and if there's a better way to do it anyway. Want to download and mark up a PDF? Download the file in Safari, tap "Open in", tap the app. Music? Well, record industry will never let Apple let you download from a page and put right on the phone's library. But some apps can store files and play whatever you want. I've got some music I play from within the OneDrive app--not pretty, but works. And for whatever reason iTunes on the Mac and PC is the biggest piece of crap Apple has ever made, so dragging and dropping music onto your phone is like pulling teeth. But music streaming services are rampant now anyway and are a much better experience. Ringtones? You're kinda screwed there, but can make them for free on a Mac, sideload them through iTunes on Mac or PC. For the rest of the miscellaneous, I just stick with cloud storage apps like OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.

    Sideloading apps, again, security issue, but also piracy, user experience, and maybe a little bit protecting a huge revenue stream (wouldn't you want to keep making billions of dollars?). On Android, it is as easy as a checkbox and then you can just go download apps to your heart's content. Apps from another store, perhaps substandard quality apps, or illegal/altered apps. And the user experience of the third party store might not be that great (I still haven't figured out Amazon's underground app on Android, to be honest--sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and it never has any indication of why something isn't working, it just kinda looks "off" and doesn't have any way for me to download the app or explain why I can't). Jailbreakers can occasionally get in there and install all kinds of tweaks and non-Apple-authorized apps, but at the same time, that's an avenue of attack. An attack that could quite possibly strike gold, considering how much stuff lives on someone's personal smartphone. As such, Apple is obligated and incented to close those holes and make them harder to break into.

    Ultimately, your phone is extremely personal to you, and your preferences and taste will vary. All of your points are perfectly valid points for someone coming from that perspective with the great freedom that you get on Android. It's a different ballgame over here in the reality distortion field. Can you find ways around the things that you're stumbling on, and have a better experience within the choices and compromises Apple makes? Maybe.

    I found a generally reliable phone in the iPhone that is built exceptionally well, tends to work the way I'd expect it to work and in few enough steps. On top of that, Apple stands behind it with really good customer service. I couldn't find that with Android yet, though some have come pretty damn close in some of those categories. Battery life is never good enough for me, but it never will be. I am sufficiently blown away nonetheless that we all walk around with supercomputers in our pocket, connecting instantly with people and information and entertainment all around the world. That you only have to plug them in a few times a day is quite frankly amazing. These days, you can't really get a terrible phone. No matter what badge is on the back.
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    I agree in Highrisedrifter's opinion.
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    I noticed less bars or dots on my iPhone 7 vs. the Note 7. But neither have dropped calls or had any real issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shutterbugg30 View Post
    I noticed less bars or dots on my iPhone 7 vs. the Note 7. But neither have dropped calls or had any real issues.
    Thanks. I travel a lot over the road & also buying a phone for someone who is 61 yrs old. She lives right off of the Interstate, but is a known weaker signal area for both Verizon & ATT.
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    There are some things that Apple does better and some things that Android does better. It's really up to the individual. I have two close friends who still use dumb phones and are totally happy with them (mind blowing I know). Use what you like and ENJOY
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