1. Craig's Avatar
    I find it very annoying. I've only had the phone for a week. I walk the dog in the morning before getting ready for work and have wired headsets all around the house. I listen to podcasts and business audios while I walk. This morning I missed my audio because I left both the lightning adapter and headset at the office. There are reasons for simple standards. Convenience is one of those.
    Question... if you left the "headset" at home.. why would having a jack or not having a jack matter. If you don't remember to bring the headset, why would the form of connection make a difference. Like saying the "iPhone sucks" because I left it at home, and I could not make a phone call without the phone. If you don't bring an umbrella, is it the manufactures fault you got wet?
    10-14-2016 03:10 PM
  2. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    I find it very annoying. I've only had the phone for a week. I walk the dog in the morning before getting ready for work and have wired headsets all around the house. I listen to podcasts and business audios while I walk. This morning I missed my audio because I left both the lightning adapter and headset at the office. There are reasons for simple standards. Convenience is one of those.

    BT is a simple standard.

    I do the same thing you do, except I do it wirelessly.

    Some people still write out checks, by hand.
    10-14-2016 04:03 PM
  3. mogelijk's Avatar
    Question... if you left the "headset" at home.. why would having a jack or not having a jack matter. If you don't remember to bring the headset, why would the form of connection make a difference. Like saying the "iPhone sucks" because I left it at home, and I could not make a phone call without the phone. If you don't bring an umbrella, is it the manufactures fault you got wet?
    Because 2ndHalfCor mentioned having multiple headsets at home; with a headphone jack, if you leave one headset at the office you can still use one of the others that are at home. Kind of like, since umbrellas are made to fit in your hand, you can use any of the other umbrellas at home if you forget one at the office -- in fact you might intentionally leave one at the office. Of course, if one umbrella maker requires a special adapter to use the umbrella, and you leave that adapter at the office....
    10-14-2016 04:52 PM
  4. taeisme's Avatar
    I am kinda of annoyed that I can't charge my phone and listen to music or talk at the same time but i am patiently waiting for the Airpods and life will be peachy again.
    10-14-2016 05:17 PM
  5. Craig's Avatar
    Because 2ndHalfCor mentioned having multiple headsets at home; with a headphone jack, if you leave one headset at the office you can still use one of the others that are at home. Kind of like, since umbrellas are made to fit in your hand, you can use any of the other umbrellas at home if you forget one at the office -- in fact you might intentionally leave one at the office. Of course, if one umbrella maker requires a special adapter to use the umbrella, and you leave that adapter at the office....
    He said multiple at home, never said he brought any of them with him.. If he said he brought the "wrong one" I would have not mentioned it. However I have a few too, so I got 3 adapters and they are permanently attached to the headset. Solved that issue easily.
    10-14-2016 05:17 PM
  6. eve6er69's Avatar
    My issue isn't music. It's call quality. I have the x2 headphones and they sound great but nothing relays the quality of volte like wired headphones. The quality doesn't transfer on BT headphones or at least on all the ones that I've used.
    10-16-2016 09:58 PM
  7. normangl's Avatar
    From a safety point of view yes. No headphone jack is the way forward.

    If you consider a kitchen appliance such as a washing machine, it's whole chassis can be earthed for electrical safety. Sadly, a smartphone cannot be earthed for safety, so if one is listening to music while the phone is charging and the charger becomes faulty delivering 240v to the iPhone and to ones head. The result is certain death!!
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    10-17-2016 02:29 AM
  8. badelhas's Avatar
    I know this is the future. By I don't have to like it.
    eve6er69, Mr.Willie and decypher44 like this.
    10-17-2016 12:46 PM
  9. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    My issue isn't music. It's call quality. I have the x2 headphones and they sound great but nothing relays the quality of volte like wired headphones. The quality doesn't transfer on BT headphones or at least on all the ones that I've used.
    Plantronics Edge

    Bose QC 35.
    10-17-2016 10:48 PM
  10. SimonAustin's Avatar
    Not so cool. If the next iretation still has no jack, I won't buy it.
    10-17-2016 10:57 PM
  11. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    Not so cool. If the next iretation still has no jack, I won't buy it.
    What are you going to do when Sammy removes the chimneys, sorry, audio jack from their devices ? Again, Apple wasn't the first, and I am pretty sure they won't be the last.
    10-17-2016 11:02 PM
  12. badelhas's Avatar
    By the way, what's the best value micro usb c headphones out there?

    Cheers
    10-18-2016 03:52 AM
  13. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    By the way, what's the best value micro usb c headphones out there?

    Cheers
    Amazon has some LG branded for $10. They are regular micro USB, not C. Not sure about the quality.

    There are many lightning earphones and headphone, covering most price ranges. I won't do it.

    I understand and support the removing of the headphone jack, but not the use of Lightning. I would have rather seen USB C, like on the Mac Book. I am not a big fan of proprietary.
    10-18-2016 04:47 AM
  14. badelhas's Avatar
    Amazon has some LG branded for $10. They are regular micro USB, not C. Not sure about the quality.

    There are many lightning earphones and headphone, covering most price ranges. I won't do it.

    I understand and support the removing of the headphone jack, but not the use of Lightning. I would have rather seen USB C, like on the Mac Book. I am not a big fan of proprietary.
    I'm a strong opponent to proprietary tech also.
    10-18-2016 05:18 AM
  15. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    I'm a strong opponent to proprietary tech also.
    While I'm not a fan of proprietary tech either I actually like lightning a lot. It's easy and efficient. If Apple switched to USB-C on iPhone we'd have thousands of people complaining because, like me, they have dozens of lightning cables and accessories at home and zero USB-C cables and accessories.
    10-18-2016 05:49 AM
  16. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    While I'm not a fan of proprietary tech either I actually like lightning a lot. It's easy and efficient. If Apple switched to USB-C on iPhone we'd have thousands of people complaining because, like me, they have dozens of lightning cables and accessories at home and zero USB-C cables and accessories.
    Oh, I like lightning a lot too, except it's Apple only. Yes third party vendors make lightning accessories, but can HTC make a phone with a lightning port ? That's the issue I have. It's why I use Kindle instead of iBooks. While I'll probably use Apple stuff till one of us dies, I want it to be my choice, not because I have $10,000 with of accessories that only work with Apple stuff.

    BT is open. My BT stuff works with any modern device. Lightning headphones do not. BT is wireless, lightning, mini USB , and plain old headphone jack aren't. To me, BT is the winner. .
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    10-18-2016 09:22 AM
  17. mogelijk's Avatar
    By the way, what's the best value micro usb c headphones out there?

    Cheers
    Just to be clear, it is simply USB-C, there is no USB-C micro; all USB-C ports (per the standard) have the same connector. The micro connector is only for the older USB ports.
    badelhas likes this.
    10-18-2016 01:49 PM
  18. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    Just to be clear, it is simply USB-C, there is no USB-C micro; all USB-C ports (per the standard) have the same connector. The micro connector is only for the older USB ports.
    So those infamous grill lighting devices that have USB C have a full sized USB connectors on them ? Just asking. Never really had any interest in Android devices since dumping them a while ago.
    10-18-2016 07:35 PM
  19. mogelijk's Avatar
    So those infamous grill lighting devices that have USB C have a full sized USB connectors on them ? Just asking. Never really had any interest in Android devices since dumping them a while ago.
    If they are USB-C, then yes, they are full sized. And Apple was actually among the first to use USB-C ports, using them on the current line of MacBooks.
    Mr.Willie likes this.
    10-18-2016 09:05 PM
  20. SamSamSmith's Avatar
    no problem so far.
    10-20-2016 05:14 AM
  21. priyeshpachori's Avatar
    I listen to music mainly during workouts and use wireless earphones(jaybird x2s) so having or not having an audio jack is not an issue for me
    adam13141 likes this.
    10-20-2016 10:12 AM
  22. decypher44's Avatar
    I'm not liking it. At all. I have several headphones for different locales, and have different qualities. I have a nice pair of Bose at home, another decent pair at home, a decent pair of in-ears at work. It doesn't work for me to keep the dumb adapter to one pair, because it will stay at only one locale. So, I'd have to buy another adapter. And all that to receive lower quality sound.

    Your mileage may vary.
    10-21-2016 01:00 PM
  23. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    I'm not liking it. At all. I have several headphones for different locales, and have different qualities. I have a nice pair of Bose at home, another decent pair at home, a decent pair of in-ears at work. It doesn't work for me to keep the dumb adapter to one pair, because it will stay at only one locale. So, I'd have to buy another adapter. And all that to receive lower quality sound.

    Your mileage may vary.
    Is it lower quality sound ? (I have nice BT headsets, and I don't have a 7 series yet, so even when I make it back to the states and get a 7+, I still won't use the adapter.) What happens in a year or two when all cellular device have removed the headphone jack ???
    10-21-2016 07:50 PM
  24. nikkisharif's Avatar
    Doesn't bother me. I haven't used a headphone jack in years. Always have wireless headphones on deck
    11-17-2016 10:50 PM
  25. ImNotSatan's Avatar
    Switched from 6 to 7 here, i like that they removed the headphone jack. When there are headphones in your phone the lightning connector cant get dirty. (Barely) , and the heasphone jack is ugly af to look at. The new (fake) 2 speaker design looks epic
    nikkisharif likes this.
    11-18-2016 05:15 AM
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