1. italodance's Avatar
    I always hate jack 3.5 so useless and ugly.
    09-29-2016 09:19 AM
  2. anony_mouse's Avatar
    I don't understand.
    #1 If you use BT you can use them with the phone as well as the laptop
    #2 If you use corded, just use the adapter when on the iPhone and take the adapter off (literally 1-second of your time) and use it on the laptop.

    It's not an issue. I don't see a problem here... you're just making it one to argue the missing jack.
    No.

    1. Bluetooth headphones need regular re-charging and don't work on planes. They are not an option for me.
    2. Have you not read what I said about adaptors - i.e. that they get lost regularly? It's not just an extra cost, it might mean not being able to use headphones for a significant period of time, e.g. a long flight.

    The most important point is that there is NO GAIN TO THE USER from dropping the headphone socket. You can use Bluetooth headphones with any smart phone since probably 2009 and probably before that. Apple could put audio on the lightning connector and still keep the headphone socket. Other manufacturers manage to make phone with better battery life and still include a headphone socket. I simply cannot see how anyone can defend this.
    10-03-2016 08:47 AM
  3. anony_mouse's Avatar
    I was saying if you bought the phone, they will provide you with your 2nd set of headphones, you could just keep those with the adapter. I fly twice a month and don't lose anything so personally I'm not worried about losing the adapter. As far as other phone makers go, I have been to all the other sides and I haven't found better than Apple. That's with battery life, security and just being an overall solid phone
    Are you seriously suggesting that I carry two sets of expensive, bulky noise cancelling headphones around with me?
    10-03-2016 08:48 AM
  4. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Headphones with laptop, phone, or tablet is done via BT.

    Plane ? I specifically replaced my QC 15s with the QC 35. The 35 is both BT and comes with a wire to plug into aircraft entertainment centers. It helps keep my sanity while flying, especially on overseas flights.

    It's nice not having the cable. I had to replace the cable on my 15s when it got sucked into the intake of my blower.
    I don't know what QC15s or QC35s are but they sound expensive and presumably need to be recharged. Why not just include the headphone socket on the phone, then everyone is happy?
    10-03-2016 08:49 AM
  5. Craig's Avatar
    No.

    1. Bluetooth headphones need regular re-charging and don't work on planes. They are not an option for me.
    2. Have you not read what I said about adaptors - i.e. that they get lost regularly? It's not just an extra cost, it might mean not being able to use headphones for a significant period of time, e.g. a long flight.

    The most important point is that there is NO GAIN TO THE USER from dropping the headphone socket. You can use Bluetooth headphones with any smart phone since probably 2009 and probably before that. Apple could put audio on the lightning connector and still keep the headphone socket. Other manufacturers manage to make phone with better battery life and still include a headphone socket. I simply cannot see how anyone can defend this.
    #1 - BT works for me on a flight.
    #2 - *Adapters (not Adaptors)... just keep them attached to the device. It's not that big an effort.
    10-03-2016 03:12 PM
  6. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I took a moment to connect the new EarPods to the lightning port of my iPhone 7 and listen to some music. As expected, the music sounded great. Well done, Apple. Well done!...
    10-03-2016 04:28 PM
  7. Trigati's Avatar
    Yup.
    10-03-2016 06:01 PM
  8. tr1ad's Avatar
    No issue for me, don't keep music on my device
    10-03-2016 07:39 PM
  9. Gonzbull's Avatar
    Yup! I use an Audioquest Dragonfly with CCK for my Audeze headphones. Much better sound then the 3.5mm jack.
    10-03-2016 10:50 PM
  10. RECON1's Avatar
    Just got these in
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    10-06-2016 08:41 PM
  11. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    I know I posted before I got my 7+, after using it for a little over a week, the no headphone jack has been no issue for me. I've used the adapter, the lightning earphones, and the Bluetooth earphones I picked up. However I'm thinking about picking up a pair of AudioTechnica Bluetooth headphones, $40 more than the air pods, massively more battery life, comes with a cable in case the battery dies, and still allows controls on the headphones themselves.
    10-06-2016 11:46 PM
  12. RECON1's Avatar
    I know I posted before I got my 7+, after using it for a little over a week, the no headphone jack has been no issue for me. I've used the adapter, the lightning earphones, and the Bluetooth earphones I picked up. However I'm thinking about picking up a pair of AudioTechnica Bluetooth headphones, $40 more than the air pods, massively more battery life, comes with a cable in case the battery dies, and still allows controls on the headphones themselves.
    Which ones specifically?
    10-06-2016 11:47 PM
  13. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Which ones specifically?
    AudioTechnica ATH-SR5BT
    10-06-2016 11:49 PM
  14. RECON1's Avatar
    AudioTechnica ATH-SR5BT
    Nice thanks. I'm still looking around for alternatives just in case.
    10-06-2016 11:50 PM
  15. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Nice thanks. I'm still looking around for alternatives just in case.
    No problem, if you're looking for in ear, Jaybird Freedom and Jaybird X2 are good options and $10 cheaper than AirPods, while still giving you more controls and with an included battery pack gets roughly 8 hours of battery life.
    10-06-2016 11:51 PM
  16. RECON1's Avatar
    No problem, if you're looking for in ear, Jaybird Freedom and Jaybird X2 are good options and $10 cheaper than AirPods, while still giving you more controls and with an included battery pack gets roughly 8 hours of battery life.
    I was looking at those at bestbuy the other day. Hopefully more brands will be able to take advantage of the W1 chip later.
    10-06-2016 11:52 PM
  17. Mr.Willie's Avatar
    I don't know what QC15s or QC35s are but they sound expensive and presumably need to be recharged. Why not just include the headphone socket on the phone, then everyone is happy?
    Bose Quite Comforts. The 35s are BT, and come with a wire. They recharge through USB. Perfect for those international flights, working in the yard, etc. best noise cancelling headphones available. Expensive is a relative term, what's costly for you may not be for someone else, but I find them worth every penny. I considered their new ear bud models, but those don't have wired capability, so you can't plug them into aircraft entertainment system.

    If you don't need noise cancellation capabilities, there are hundreds of other BT headsets out there. Once you lose the wires, you'll never want to go back, but Apple includes lightning earbuds and an adapter if you insist, plus lighting headset from other manufactures have already hit the market.

    According to iFixit, the new Taptic Engine and a larger battery occupies the spot the jack was in. Apple wasn't the first (I believe they are the fourth) to can the jack. Even if you switch to a new platform, you're only delaying it.

    Lose it now and enjoy.
    10-07-2016 12:32 AM
  18. zwuncki's Avatar
    First I thought it was a dealbreaker for me. I always used wired headphones. But for maybe 5 months now I have used the Powerbeats 2 Wireless for listening to music on the go. Not good quality at all but it's ok for listening to it for maybe 30 minutes. So I was used to it.

    Now with the iPhone 7 I wanted something better and bought the very small and ultra light Bose Soundlink On-Ear. And OMG. What a difference to the Powerbeats 2 Wireless. I am in no way an audiophile. But these headphones are great compared to any earphones. And the voice guide plus the 2 devices syncing is so comfortable. No much more expensive and bigger Beats Solo 3 needed here. Amazing headphones for this price. So I don't even need any wired headphones anymore. That's it.

    I was always against wireless headphones. Not only because of quality, although I'm no audiophile in any way, but because of battery life and charging another device. But I got used to it and the iPhone doesn't use that much more battery compared to wired headphones and BT off.

    And there is so much charging nowadays. Not only cellphone anymore. Watches, headphones, trackers etc.
    Mr.Willie likes this.
    10-07-2016 03:36 AM
  19. adam13141's Avatar
    After the Apple announcement i see a lot of people are not ok with this change, and some even completely hate it. I'm wondering are there people out there OK with the change and don't mind the fact that there is no audio jack? or maybe you are happy about this change.

    I for one don't mind it, i actually don't listen much with my headphones so i'm ok and can't wait to get a new iPhone.
    It doesn't bother me. I use the lightening cable ear buds that came with the iPhone and Beats Studios. I never need to charge and listen with wired headphones at the same time. I do understand why some people would be upset. If you have really nice wired headset or you need to charge and listen at the same time and don't want to use an adapter.
    10-07-2016 10:07 PM
  20. iEsther's Avatar
    I'm staying with my iPod -_-
    10-08-2016 06:30 AM
  21. mogelijk's Avatar
    It seems like Apple would be smart to make a couple of lightning port dongles, beyond the lightning port to headphone jack. Make one like Anker is that goes to two lightning ports, and a second one that goes to a lightning port and a headphone jack.
    10-08-2016 12:05 PM
  22. Craig's Avatar
    It seems like Apple would be smart to make a couple of lightning port dongles, beyond the lightning port to headphone jack. Make one like Anker is that goes to two lightning ports, and a second one that goes to a lightning port and a headphone jack.
    I think there will be enough 3rd party companies making accessories to keep the marketplace happy. It's doubtful Apple will make one, for the simple reason by doing so.. it's sort of admitting it's an issue. Let companies like Belkin make the $ off those items with Apple's thumbs up!
    10-08-2016 12:44 PM
  23. alex.shimp's Avatar
    I'm fine with it.....i haven't used traditional headphone in years since I got my first pair of Bluetooth ones
    10-08-2016 02:53 PM
  24. Shanicenicolle's Avatar
    Doesn't bother me. I use wireless headphones for the most part and have Bluetooth in my car. Family member hinted at having bought me some wireless beats as well so I should be all set.
    10-08-2016 08:45 PM
  25. 2ndHalfCor's Avatar
    I find it very annoying. I've only had the phone for a week. I walk the dog in the morning before getting ready for work and have wired headsets all around the house. I listen to podcasts and business audios while I walk. This morning I missed my audio because I left both the lightning adapter and headset at the office. There are reasons for simple standards. Convenience is one of those.
    10-14-2016 03:03 PM
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