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    Default Re: How much better can lightning headphones be (technical details appreciated)?

    Quote Originally Posted by metllicamilitia View Post
    There are internal components on media players for audio. Like an audio chip, and soundboard, and such. An equalizer tweaks sound by frequency. If the internal components can't handle that tweaking, it's makes the sound bad even if it's slightly better. This is quite noticeable on iPhone. The app Radsone has a ten band equalizer, while it makes the sound much better than stock, it really makes the iPhones inferior audio components shine through.
    Audio on the iPhone is not considered to be inferior at all. It may not be the absolute best but is up there. But this is not relevant on the 7 unless you are talking about the phones loudspeakers. ANY AUDIO passed through the lightning port will not be processed by ANY audio chips or soundboards in the phone itself. Lightning cannot process analogue signal (USB-C can though) so all the signal processing for you to hear music on an iPhone 7 begins AFTER it had left the phone. The jack on the lightning cord contains the DAC and Amp which are used. If you want better sound, buy a better set of lightning headphones and they will have a different DAC and Amp. Or bluetooth headphones which also contain their own DAC and Amp.
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    Default Re: How much better can lightning headphones be (technical details appreciated)?

    Lightning headphones can be better. That being said, in practice, most won't go that route, and Apple will succeed in pushing most of us to take the leap to Bluetooth headphones.

    But sure, the audiophiles can get headphones with better DACs, and probably already have been doing so.

    But although that's been a pitch, let's not pretend this is about that. It's about getting people to move to wireless. And it'll work.
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    Default Re: How much better can lightning headphones be (technical details appreciated)?

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerinexile View Post
    Lightning headphones can be better. That being said, in practice, most won't go that route, and Apple will succeed in pushing most of us to take the leap to Bluetooth headphones.

    But sure, the audiophiles can get headphones with better DACs, and probably already have been doing so.
    What makes a better DAC, exactly, other than, say, hi-res 24 bit audio vs standard non hi-res audio?
    How important is a 'better' (however defined) DAC vs a 'better' sound-producing technology of the headphones/earphones? Eg let's say we listen to a track on a pair of Shure or Westone or Ultimate Ears top-of-the-range earphones, connected to an Iphone 6. How would this combination compare vs a 'better' DAC but poorer quality earphones?
    Quote Originally Posted by tigerinexile View Post
    But although that's been a pitch, let's not pretend this is about that. It's about getting people to move to wireless. And it'll work.
    I think it's about moving people to Apple proprietary technologies, regardless of whether they are wireless or not.
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    Default Re: How much better can lightning headphones be (technical details appreciated)?

    Quote Originally Posted by garfieldthecat View Post
    What makes a better DAC, exactly, other than, say, hi-res 24 bit audio vs standard non hi-res audio?
    How important is a 'better' (however defined) DAC vs a 'better' sound-producing technology of the headphones/earphones? Eg let's say we listen to a track on a pair of Shure or Westone or Ultimate Ears top-of-the-range earphones, connected to an Iphone 6. How would this combination compare vs a 'better' DAC but poorer quality earphones?

    I think it's about moving people to Apple proprietary technologies, regardless of whether they are wireless or not.
    The Hi-Fi headphones will make all imperfections shine, including poor DAC's. Assuming you have the ear for it of course.
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    Default Re: How much better can lightning headphones be (technical details appreciated)?

    Quote Originally Posted by garfieldthecat View Post
    What makes a better DAC, exactly, other than, say, hi-res 24 bit audio vs standard non hi-res audio?
    How important is a 'better' (however defined) DAC vs a 'better' sound-producing technology of the headphones/earphones? Eg let's say we listen to a track on a pair of Shure or Westone or Ultimate Ears top-of-the-range earphones, connected to an Iphone 6. How would this combination compare vs a 'better' DAC but poorer quality earphones?

    I think it's about moving people to Apple proprietary technologies, regardless of whether they are wireless or not.
    Re the DAC, it could've been done with an iPhone 5, 5s, 6 or 6s, via the Lightning port.

    Wireless headphones work with the 7, regardless of manufacturer. I use a $20 pair of Insignia wireless earbuds while I decide whether to do the Bose Soundsport ones or the Airpods. The $20 wireless ones are as good as the wired earbuds, imho.
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