1. bgapfire's Avatar
    I will also disagree with the pixel being a better phone. I see no difference between the Pixel and the 6P. Android OS is just getting worse and worse. I've used Android OS since Android Eclair and they do improve but they take steps backwards. The lastest Android N is horrible with battery life even after factory reset, Bluetooth issues, and app force closing issues. It's not like it's going from Delvik to ART so issues like force closing should of been long fixed by now.

    I want a phone that just works. No reboots to get things to work, no messing around with settings for good battery life and battery that last all day.

    I get a full day 7am to 10PM with my 7Plus. I get 8-10 hours with my Nexus 6P.

    And I don't want to be buying a phone phone yearly. I used a 5C for two years and no issues except my company wanted to upgrade to the 7. My brother and wife uses their phones for 2+ years with no issues.
    The thing about these smartphones and Oses is that everyone will either have a strong preference for what they've been using for years and/ or individual experiences will vary. I am an Android guy that has owned Iphones. I prefer Android. No iOS hate at all. I just prefer Android. I see folks complain about Android being unstable or laggy from time to time. This can happen with the non-Nexus/ Pixel phones as I've had my share (very small though) of these issues. With that said, I've never encountered lag or stuttering with my Nexus devices or my current Pixel XL.

    The other thing I find interesting is that people complain about app quality. What exactly do you mean? When I look at the apps I use for both platforms, I don't see a difference or experience a difference. Android has more color but aside from that, I don't understand and would truly like to hear from others about what is so different to you.

    Lastly, I've had Iphones shut off randomly, freeze and stutter as well. These are electronic devices and they're all susceptible to these issues.

    Happy New Year.
    01-01-2017 07:34 PM
  2. bgapfire's Avatar
    I wish my brother would see what you're saying. He's the only one in my family on android and he's constantly left out of iMessage convos and FaceTime even though he lives the furthest away. He blames Apple and says they should develop cross platform. I have tried to explain to him that their ecosystem is their strongest marketing strategy so they will never do that.
    Truly out of curiosity, how is he missing out on iMessage convos? I can understand Facetime but he would still get an SMS if included in a group message, correct?
    01-01-2017 07:39 PM
  3. bgapfire's Avatar
    This, this, a thousand times this, especially the last sentence. Android bloggers have been hyping the Pixel as the best Android phone ever and that's far from fact. They fall for the hype of the device and spec wise, it's at best a mid-range phone. Heck, some mid-range Android phones are better (the OnePlus 3T comes to mind). The Pixel hype is quite irritating and that reason is why I don't read Android blogs anymore, that and my iPhone 7 Plus is the best phone on the market right now and there's no need to buy into the hype of anything else.
    Good evening.

    I can easily say the iPhone is over hyped in the grand scheme of it all. The companies that have the budget to market their products and get people to buy them en masse are very few. I don't think any of these smartphones are worth $1k on the high end -let alone the iPhone plus model.

    Example: I can get irritated that they advertise the speaker with an elderly man diving into a pool and he can still hear it while climbing steps and diving. Really?!

    Example: Camera marketed as best on planet but has such a small field of view.

    I think iOS notification system is horrendous but others think it is great. It is all about what works best for you at the end of the day.

    This isn't necessarily directed at you, so please don't take negatively. I just think all of our opinions are just that. Marketing is part of selling your product. The big boys market to death. With that, I think they all are over hyped electronics at the end of the day.
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    01-01-2017 07:49 PM
  4. bgapfire's Avatar
    The main difference between android and IOS is the IPhone just works where the android device will stumble while using it causing much frustration with users. But android is more customizable than apple so the choice is sometimes difficult.
    Totally disagree but you're entitled to your opinion since this may be your experience. My Pixel and other Android devices just worked fine. It was no different than my 6s+.
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    01-01-2017 07:55 PM
  5. G.4's Avatar
    Truly out of curiosity, how is he missing out on iMessage convos? I can understand Facetime but he would still get an SMS if included in a group message, correct?
    He says that they often come in jumbled. As in a different order than they were sent by one of us. It's like if someone types a long iMessage, on our end it's just one long message. But on his end it breaks it up into multiple messages (as if there is a character limit), and when they come through, they aren't often in the right order so he has to piece them together. With five people or more in a group message chatting this can get very confusing on his end. That's the main issue
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    01-02-2017 06:54 PM
  6. robertk328's Avatar
    He says that they often come in jumbled. As in a different order than they were sent by one of us. It's like if someone types a long iMessage, on our end it's just one long message. But on his end it breaks it up into multiple messages (as if there is a character limit), and when they come through, they aren't often in the right order so he has to piece them together. With five people or more in a group message chatting this can get very confusing on his end. That's the main issue
    Right. Anything over 160 characters (IIRC) is broken down into multiple messages. You can turn on the counter in settings and be mindful of it but not sure everyone is willing to do that.
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    01-03-2017 05:52 AM
  7. bgapfire's Avatar
    He says that they often come in jumbled. As in a different order than they were sent by one of us. It's like if someone types a long iMessage, on our end it's just one long message. But on his end it breaks it up into multiple messages (as if there is a character limit), and when they come through, they aren't often in the right order so he has to piece them together. With five people or more in a group message chatting this can get very confusing on his end. That's the main issue
    Thanks for the response!
    01-03-2017 07:41 AM
  8. Truman82's Avatar
    To my experience some android apps have worse graphics quality. For example some pop up adds have clearly seen pixels in it. Not sharp. And my bank app on iOS supports fingerprint unlock where on android it's nowhere to be seen.
    Some apps on android has stuttering connection when streaming where using same app in iOS works wonderfully. And both in same network.
    Did I mention pop up ads?which intrudes in your homescreen and you have no idea which app of your 80 apps does that. Uninstall 1 by 1?
    Guess not everyone experience these but that has been my experience in multiple android device, lastly used s7e.
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    01-05-2017 05:27 AM
  9. James Cagney's Avatar
    I am about to shift to iPhone 7 Plus from S7 Edge, but the only thing stopping me is the lengthy charging time of iPhone 7 Plus. If anyone can tell me how to manage the charging time of iPhone 7 Plus, then I may switch.
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    01-05-2017 06:59 AM
  10. Tartarus's Avatar
    I am about to shift to iPhone 7 Plus from S7 Edge, but the only thing stopping me is the lengthy charging time of iPhone 7 Plus. If anyone can tell me how to manage the charging time of iPhone 7 Plus, then I may switch.
    I put it on the dock before sleeping and take it out when I wake up. At the end of the work day, without charging in between I come home with still ~25 battery left. In case I need to charge when I'm outdoors, I plug it in my power bank, and frankly, I haven't done that in a lot now since having the 7 Plus.
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    01-05-2017 07:12 AM
  11. Nubwy's Avatar
    iPhones usually start lagging after the first two years, and most of the features in the new updates don't usually make it to the older phones. The Pixel phones already have more features than iPhones, plus they get 2 years of updates to add new features. In addition, they will get at least 3 years of security updates, which make up the majority of iOS updates anyway... Since the bootloader is unlockable on the Pixels you can always load Cyanogen Mod 10 years in the future and still get the latest features, since they still support really old phones. Just trying to be subjective, everyone has their preferences, but lets not throw misleading facts around.
    Like stating the Pixel has more features than the iPhone 7 +? It's obvious you're not very objective either considering the Pixel XL lacks:

    - Water/Dust resistance on par with iPhone 7
    - Telephoto zoom for rear camera and a dual pixel setup.
    - A more durable home button thanks to no mechanical button mechanism.
    - A faster processor by all conventional and practical benchmarks and speed tests.
    - Stereo speaker, one front firing.

    Let's not throw around misleading facts, yes.
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    01-06-2017 11:52 AM
  12. fury's Avatar
    I am about to shift to iPhone 7 Plus from S7 Edge, but the only thing stopping me is the lengthy charging time of iPhone 7 Plus. If anyone can tell me how to manage the charging time of iPhone 7 Plus, then I may switch.
    If you haven't already, try it with a 10-12 watt (2.1A - 2.4A) power adapter, like the ones that come with full sized iPads. The plus can draw more current to charge than is provided by the 5 watt adapter that comes in the box.
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    01-06-2017 12:38 PM
  13. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Like stating the Pixel has more features than the iPhone 7 +? It's obvious you're not very objective either considering the Pixel XL lacks:

    - Water/Dust resistance on par with iPhone 7
    - Telephoto zoom for rear camera and a dual pixel setup.
    - A more durable home button thanks to no mechanical button mechanism.
    - A faster processor by all conventional and practical benchmarks and speed tests.
    - Stereo speaker, one front firing.

    Let's not throw around misleading facts, yes.
    Those are just 5 features that you said the Pixel lacks, with 3 of them being incorrect, and 2 that don't really make a difference.
    The pixel home button is on screen, making it just as durable as the iPhone's. I might even add that it was more convenient when it shifted around when I rotated the screen.
    The only time you're going to be able to take full advantage of the A10 fusion chip is in games, and heavy graphics. The rest of the time, it doesn't matter how fast the processor is since it doesn't really make a difference.
    If you root the Pixel like I was talking about, you can give it the ability to have stereo sound from the earpiece.
    The telephoto lens only really comes in handy for close ups, and the regular lens is probably going to be used more. Its just a more clearer zoom, but yes its a feature that the Pixel does not have, even though its not going to be used nearly as much as the regular lens.
    Lastly, the Pixel is able to survive submersion in water (there are some videos that show this), however that doesn't even matter since both Apple AND Google will void your warranty if there is any water damage.
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204104
    I'm not trying to throw misleading facts, I'm just an informed consumer that fully researched my options before I came to the conclusion that the iPhone 7 Plus is a pretty good fit for me.

    Edit: Meant to say objective in the original comment, not subjective. My bad.
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    01-06-2017 04:46 PM
  14. Truman82's Avatar
    Those are just 5 features that you said the Pixel lacks, with 3 of them being incorrect, and 2 that don't really make a difference.
    The pixel home button is on screen, making it just as durable as the iPhone's. I might even add that it was more convenient when it shifted around when I rotated the screen.
    The only time you're going to be able to take full advantage of the A10 fusion chip is in games, and heavy graphics. The rest of the time, it doesn't matter how fast the processor is since it doesn't really make a difference.
    If you root the Pixel like I was talking about, you can give it the ability to have stereo sound from the earpiece.
    The telephoto lens only really comes in handy for close ups, and the regular lens is probably going to be used more. Its just a more clearer zoom, but yes its a feature that the Pixel does not have, even though its not going to be used nearly as much as the regular lens.
    Lastly, the Pixel is able to survive submersion in water (there are some videos that show this), however that doesn't even matter since both Apple AND Google will void your warranty if there is any water damage.
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204104
    I'm not trying to throw misleading facts, I'm just an informed consumer that fully researched my options before I came to the conclusion that the iPhone 7 Plus is a pretty good fit for me.

    Edit: Meant to say objective in the original comment, not subjective. My bad.
    Even tho you claim to end up with 7 plus, still that opinion of yours seems a bit one sided. All the points you bring up makes the iPhone look bad. Bad or inferior to the Pixel. In the end I wonder why did you decide to go with the iPhone? If Pixel is as good you claim it is why not choose it over?
    Sorry for typos, English isn't my native language.
    01-07-2017 02:11 AM
  15. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Even tho you claim to end up with 7 plus, still that opinion of yours seems a bit one sided. All the points you bring up makes the iPhone look bad. Bad or inferior to the Pixel. In the end I wonder why did you decide to go with the iPhone? If Pixel is as good you claim it is why not choose it over?
    Sorry for typos, English isn't my native language.
    I'd say it's more honestly pointing out the faults of iOS and the iPhone 7/7 Plus. Nothing is all rainbows and butterflies. Every platform and phone has faults. I think it's good to be able to look at the pros and cons of everything and not just so blindly think one thing is the end all be all.
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    01-07-2017 07:57 AM
  16. Truman82's Avatar
    Well said and can agree with that. Most people lack the will to be critical nowadays.
    iPhone isn't perfect as mentioned. Neither is android. In the end it boils down to personal preference and how much you can pay for a phone.
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    01-07-2017 11:36 AM
  17. Larry Cook1's Avatar
    I switched to Android a couple of years ago. Switched back to ios because as they say It just works.
    01-07-2017 12:28 PM
  18. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Even tho you claim to end up with 7 plus, still that opinion of yours seems a bit one sided. All the points you bring up makes the iPhone look bad. Bad or inferior to the Pixel. In the end I wonder why did you decide to go with the iPhone? If Pixel is as good you claim it is why not choose it over?
    Sorry for typos, English isn't my native language.
    I chose the iPhone because a large chunk of my social group (friends/family) are invested in the Apple ecosystem, and it integrates well with the rest of my Apple products. I also like the better app experience on iOS since devs tend to support it more. It just works. My opinion may seem a bit one-sided, but that's because there was more to the story than that person's reply stated. These days, the iPhone is not definitively better than Android phones like it used to, so your personal preferences are more important than "which is the better phone".
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    01-07-2017 10:28 PM
  19. mrdoon's Avatar
    I just made the same switch and am more than pleased with the outcome. After 6 months, my S7 Edge became buggy and unstable. Android OS was responsible for draining my battery on a daily basis (to the point where I was under 50% by lunch time on most days). Sure I could charge quickly and wirelessly but who wants to be connected to a charger half of the day. If this was the first Android device that I had that experienced these kinds of problems, I'd chalk it up to a bad software build but I have had a fair number of (at least 10) Android devices since my last iPhone (3GS) and this is the rule rather than the exception. I honestly haven't come across any major tasks that I could do on Android that I can't do on my 7 Plus. While I miss the customization of Android, that's not enough of a reason to put up with the shortcomings. For now, I just want a phone that works the way it's supposed to work. I still like the idea of Android and will continue to follow developments and would be willing to try again if these things were addressed.
    Last edited by mrdoon; 01-08-2017 at 02:06 AM.
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    01-08-2017 01:55 AM
  20. mrdoon's Avatar
    The lack of "fast charging" has been a non-issue for me since the battery life is far better on my 7 Plus than it was on the S7 Edge. I know that battery life varies depending on how you use your phone but I pretty much use the iPhone the same as I did my S7 Edge so, at least for me, I am comparing apples to apples.
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    01-08-2017 02:05 AM
  21. EMostafa's Avatar
    Google Pixel and Galaxy S7 edge are good phone, but I like iPhone 7 Plus better. For me I have used Android and iOS, so I can switch between them without any problem. But for some Android user, they may be more accustomed to using an android phone. So anyone should select the most suitable phone for themselves. And I can said these phones may not be too much different, may iPhone 7 Plus slightly better, but not much, just a little bit. Thank you!
    01-09-2017 08:01 PM
  22. Almeuit's Avatar
    I am about to shift to iPhone 7 Plus from S7 Edge, but the only thing stopping me is the lengthy charging time of iPhone 7 Plus. If anyone can tell me how to manage the charging time of iPhone 7 Plus, then I may switch.
    Just get an iPad charger (the brick) and it will charge faster.
    01-10-2017 10:57 AM
  23. Nubwy's Avatar
    Those are just 5 features that you said the Pixel lacks, with 3 of them being incorrect, and 2 that don't really make a difference.
    The pixel home button is on screen, making it just as durable as the iPhone's. I might even add that it was more convenient when it shifted around when I rotated the screen.
    The only time you're going to be able to take full advantage of the A10 fusion chip is in games, and heavy graphics. The rest of the time, it doesn't matter how fast the processor is since it doesn't really make a difference.
    If you root the Pixel like I was talking about, you can give it the ability to have stereo sound from the earpiece.
    The telephoto lens only really comes in handy for close ups, and the regular lens is probably going to be used more. Its just a more clearer zoom, but yes its a feature that the Pixel does not have, even though its not going to be used nearly as much as the regular lens.
    Lastly, the Pixel is able to survive submersion in water (there are some videos that show this), however that doesn't even matter since both Apple AND Google will void your warranty if there is any water damage.
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204104
    I'm not trying to throw misleading facts, I'm just an informed consumer that fully researched my options before I came to the conclusion that the iPhone 7 Plus is a pretty good fit for me.

    Edit: Meant to say objective in the original comment, not subjective. My bad.
    Real world Speedtest a show that the iPhone's memory management is superior to the Pixel phone and its ability to retain background tasks far better than any other android including Pixel. The iPhone is water and dust resistant. Why does it matter? Because android enthusiasts say it does and its a growing feature that many Pixel owners wish they had. The only thing the Pixel does better is the display and even then I'd wager the battery saved by an LCD iPhone is worth the trade off.

    As for the camera, I'm pretty sure washed out colors and a terrible video capture for real life colors compared to the excellent and rich true to life colors captured by the iSight software and hardware in the 7 plus is much superior than Pixel's.

    In the end, I'm not saying that the Pixel is a bad phone. But in the original post, you made the claim that it's better than the iPhone 7/7+. It's simply not. That's an objective statement based upon specs for specs breakdowns. As well as real world speed tests and benchmarks.
    01-10-2017 04:28 PM
  24. Nubwy's Avatar
    Also, you shouldn't need to root a device to make it compete with any phone. That's the supposed trump card android fans pull. Whereas I can go buy an iPhone and it will work fantastic out of the box with no rooting or jail breaking necessary.
    01-10-2017 04:29 PM
  25. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Also, you shouldn't need to root a device to make it compete with any phone. That's the supposed trump card android fans pull. Whereas I can go buy an iPhone and it will work fantastic out of the box with no rooting or jail breaking necessary.
    The fact of the matter is that its possible on both phones and its just your preference.
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    01-10-2017 10:28 PM
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