1. Truman82's Avatar
    Many reviews says that pixel is as smooth as iPhone is. For part I believe it can be so but from my experience the apps are where things go south.
    11-04-2016 10:05 AM
  2. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    Many reviews says that pixel is as smooth as iPhone is. For part I believe it can be so but from my experience the apps are where things go south.
    Some apps. I'm still confused how the iOS versions of Google apps run better than the Android counterparts that are native to the operating system.
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    11-04-2016 10:08 AM
  3. KillerQ's Avatar
    Many reviews says that pixel is as smooth as iPhone is. For part I believe it can be so but from my experience the apps are where things go south.
    Having owned dozens on flagship Android devices in the past years, I can tell you with 100% confidence that ALL android phones start out smooth.... apps and daily usage quickly change that in as little as a few weeks.

    The hands-off file system of iOS is what keeps iPhones running so well. The fragmented, every-man-for-himself file structure of Android is its downfall.

    Until that changes, the fate of all android devices will be the same. When the processors get faster, it will just take a bit longer before they inevitably slow down.
    11-04-2016 10:32 AM
  4. toneofark's Avatar
    Having owned dozens on flagship Android devices in the past years, I can tell you with 100% confidence that ALL android phones start out smooth.... apps and daily usage quickly change that in as little as a few weeks.

    The hands-off file system of iOS is what keeps iPhones running so well. The fragmented, every-man-for-himself file structure of Android is its downfall.

    Until that changes, the fate of all android devices will be the same. When the processors get faster, it will just take a bit longer before they inevitably slow down.
    Having jumped back and forth with many phones myself, I agree with this assessment.
    11-04-2016 11:59 AM
  5. jsarino's Avatar
    As a Nexus 6P owner, I was somewhat disappointed that the leap from that phone to the Pixel is minimal IMO. The three things that pull it ahead are the tweaked camera, better optimization between hardware and OS, and Google Assistant. But, leaving out water resistance, a move back to a single speaker (vs. the dual speakers of the Nexus 6 and 6P), a scratch-prone partial glass back, and the higher price point were turnoffs for me. Having said all this, and as Mr. Mobile pointed out on AC, the intent is the phone to bridge the best of both what purists want (the Nexus line) with what the mainstream consumers want (Samsung, LG, Lenovo/Moto, etc.), and so far, this is working.

    I feel the app experience that people complain about wouldn't be so if devs caught up to hardware advances faster. But keep in mind that unlike iOS where you're serving up one phone series and tablet, there's literally hundreds of iterations of Android devices in the market. Devs have to design the apps to work with the majority of them, from say an entry-level device all the way up to flagships. For instance, I'm as of this writing running my 6P on the Dev Preview to Android Nougat 7.1.1 (nearly identical OS as the Pixel). Some apps are crashing just because they've not gotten up to speed to the new OS.

    Sort of on a sidenote, why the heck did they not change the charging ports for the iPhone 7s to the USB-C standard? People may rag on them, but you have a number of Android flagships that can natively connect to the 2016 MacBook Pro and 12" MacBook, but you can't do the same with the iPhone 7s.
    11-04-2016 02:28 PM
  6. KillerQ's Avatar
    Having jumped back and forth with many phones myself, I agree with this assessment.
    Thanks, Plow
    11-04-2016 02:59 PM
  7. Chemy JMHT's Avatar
    Sometimes it's about the side you are but of who you are, getting what you need is always better than having more and more each time, I use my phone (not an iPhone so far) very basically so I don't need the level or personalization, also I know it not only depends of the specs, sometimes it's about how optimized the OS is with the Hardware, with Android you simply can't totally optimize both things because the core of the OS is made by Google and the parts are made by an army of companies.
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    11-04-2016 02:59 PM
  8. KillerQ's Avatar
    Having said all this, and as Mr. Mobile pointed out on AC, the intent is the phone to bridge the best of both what purists want (the Nexus line) with what the mainstream consumers want (Samsung, LG, Lenovo/Moto, etc.), and so far, this is working.
    I see your point, but this has no more appeal to the mainstream than the Nexus 6p. Other than marketing saying so and pushing it that way.
    11-04-2016 05:31 PM
  9. T48's Avatar

    Sort of on a sidenote, why the heck did they not change the charging ports for the iPhone 7s to the USB-C standard? People may rag on them, but you have a number of Android flagships that can natively connect to the 2016 MacBook Pro and 12" MacBook, but you can't do the same with the iPhone 7s.
    Proprietary port that Apple either sells their own cable or charges a licensing fee to other mfg's who make it.
    The forum slogans of it just works should be, its only money...
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    11-05-2016 01:13 AM
  10. Savoy's Avatar
    To better honest I don't see why people complain about three lightening port so much. I had the USB c on my note 7 and it was certainly better than the mini USB I'd been using for years before that on all the other Android devices but I actually prefer the lightning connector. Why? To meet it seems more of a sturdy connection less prone to being bent and also less likely to bed pulled out while plugged in. USB c was fine too but I think I like the lightning port a little better. I just like how it feels when you plug it in and out. Feels very should to me.
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    11-05-2016 04:42 AM
  11. Truman82's Avatar
    On s7 edge I noticed that the mini USB port was made of plastic. Yesterday tried to see how it is on my 7 plus but I'm not sure yet?
    11-05-2016 06:03 AM
  12. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    On s7 edge I noticed that the mini USB port was made of plastic. Yesterday tried to see how it is on my 7 plus but I'm not sure yet?
    Hmmm. I'm not 100% sure but I'd be willing to bet the lightning port is NOT made out of plastic.
    11-05-2016 06:11 AM
  13. Friendzone's Avatar
    I looked into it and found out it's made out of vibranium, the same nigh-indestructible metal as Captain America's shield.
    11-05-2016 07:35 AM
  14. KillerQ's Avatar
    I looked into it and found out it's made out of vibranium, the same nigh-indestructible metal as Captain America's shield.
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    11-05-2016 08:16 AM
  15. KillerQ's Avatar
    To better honest I don't see why people complain about three lightening port so much. I had the USB c on my note 7 and it was certainly better than the mini USB I'd been using for years before that on all the other Android devices but I actually prefer the lightning connector. Why? To meet it seems more of a sturdy connection less prone to being bent and also less likely to bed pulled out while plugged in. USB c was fine too but I think I like the lightning port a little better. I just like how it feels when you plug it in and out. Feels very should to me.
    I agree 100%. Just speaking from a purely physical construction standpoint, I prefer the lightening port. My Nexus 6P had USB C, and I didn't really realize that it had any faults at all until I started using the LP connector on my iPhone 7 plus. Here are my points:

    1) LP has a smaller footprint
    2) LP has better physical insertion 'snap,' as well as retention
    3) LP doesn't scratch the area around the charging port like the thin-walled, metal USB C connector did.

    I'll happily take These three reasons alone ahead of faster change times if it came down to it.

    Not to mention, the way that USB C connectors are made still causes a seam/joint to be present on the metal sheath. This is a weak spot and I've often seen it fail or at least start to become misshapen here. The LP connector is molded from a single die - no seams or joints.
    Last edited by KillerQ; 11-05-2016 at 08:50 AM.
    11-05-2016 08:21 AM
  16. blueshapti's Avatar
    Get an iPad power adapter it cuts the time to charge almost in half.
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    11-05-2016 09:20 AM
  17. Savoy's Avatar
    I agree 100%. Just speaking from a purely physical construction standpoint, I prefer the lightening port. My Nexus 6P had USB C, and I didn't really realize that it had any faults at all until I started using the LP connector on my iPhone 7 plus. Here are my points:

    1) LP has a smaller footprint
    2) LP has better physical insertion 'snap,' as well as retention
    3) LP doesn't scratch the area around the charging port like the thin-walled, metal USB C connector did.

    I'll happily take These three reasons alone ahead of faster change times if it came down to it.

    Not to mention, the way that USB C connectors are made still causes a seam/joint to be present on the metal sheath. This is a weak spot and I've often seen it fail or at least start to become misshapen here. The LP connector is molded from a single die - no seams or joints.
    This right here.^

    That's exactly how I feel about the differences between the two. The LP is more secure feeling and has a more solid build to it. There's no doubt about it.
    11-05-2016 09:29 AM
  18. KillerQ's Avatar
    This right here.^

    That's exactly how I feel about the differences between the two. The LP is more secure feeling and has a more solid build to it. There's no doubt about it.
    Thanks, glad you notice the positives as well!
    11-05-2016 09:52 AM
  19. mogelijk's Avatar
    To better honest I don't see why people complain about three lightening port so much. I had the USB c on my note 7 and it was certainly better than the mini USB I'd been using for years before that on all the other Android devices but I actually prefer the lightning connector. Why? To meet it seems more of a sturdy connection less prone to being bent and also less likely to bed pulled out while plugged in. USB c was fine too but I think I like the lightning port a little better. I just like how it feels when you plug it in and out. Feels very should to me.
    The reason for the complaints about the lightning ports is that it is proprietary -- Apple owns it and requires companies to license it (pay royalty fees) to be able to use it. So, this means you have to buy unique chargers and, with the loss of the headphone jack, unique (wired) headphones that will only work on your iPhone. By contrast, USB-C is the new USB standard that everyone else will be using -- and even Apple is starting to use it on their computers.

    The complaint isn't about the technology of the lightning port, it is about needing to buy separate chargers/headphones/etc. for your iPhone, rather than using the standard the rest of the industry will be moving to. I should also mention that fast charging is built into the USB-C standard, another feature that many seem to be wanting for the iPhone.
    11-05-2016 10:44 AM
  20. KillerQ's Avatar
    The reason for the complaints about the lightning ports is that it is proprietary -- Apple owns it and requires companies to license it (pay royalty fees) to be able to use it. So, this means you have to buy unique chargers and, with the loss of the headphone jack, unique (wired) headphones that will only work on your iPhone. By contrast, USB-C is the new USB standard that everyone else will be using -- and even Apple is starting to use it on their computers.

    The complaint isn't about the technology of the lightning port, it is about needing to buy separate chargers/headphones/etc. for your iPhone, rather than using the standard the rest of the industry will be moving to. I should also mention that fast charging is built into the USB-C standard, another feature that many seem to be wanting for the iPhone.
    I just keep something like this on my keychain and I'm good. I have never needed it, but it's there.

    https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD820ZM...mUvbUpU2846620

    You can find a generic version of these adapters and some have key loops build into them.
    11-05-2016 11:45 AM
  21. Savoy's Avatar
    The reason for the complaints about the lightning ports is that it is proprietary -- Apple owns it and requires companies to license it (pay royalty fees) to be able to use it. So, this means you have to buy unique chargers and, with the loss of the headphone jack, unique (wired) headphones that will only work on your iPhone. By contrast, USB-C is the new USB standard that everyone else will be using -- and even Apple is starting to use it on their computers.

    The complaint isn't about the technology of the lightning port, it is about needing to buy separate chargers/headphones/etc. for your iPhone, rather than using the standard the rest of the industry will be moving to. I should also mention that fast charging is built into the USB-C standard, another feature that many seem to be wanting for the iPhone.
    Ok well that makes sense no argument here. Since I'm a new apple person the whole LC thing is newish to me and so I didn't see a problem when in fact I thought the build quality and fitment of it is very well done. As far as having to play a little more for their cables ehh that doesn't bother me. I also never use headphones with my phone so the whole loss of the 3.5mm port doesn't affect me at all.
    11-05-2016 12:00 PM
  22. vondrook4's Avatar
    I'm a bit of a resolution snob, so Android phones with 1440p screens kind of make me jealous, as well as fast charging, but overall I'm very content with my 7 Plus. It's just so snappy, fluid, and reliable. And I'm LOVING Portrait mode. It's not perfect yet but so far I've taken some awesome shots.
    11-05-2016 11:00 PM
  23. Savoy's Avatar
    I'm a bit of a resolution snob, so Android phones with 1440p screens kind of make me jealous, as well as fast charging, but overall I'm very content with my 7 Plus. It's just so snappy, fluid, and reliable. And I'm LOVING Portrait mode. It's not perfect yet but so far I've taken some awesome shots.
    I felt the same way at first coming from 3 phone's with 1440p res back down to 1080p but I got over it when I realized how nice this screen is. The pixel arrangement makes the higher res unnecessary and is pretty much as sharp as an AMOLED arrangement on a screen of similar size. The only trade off is saturation for color accuracy. I like them both in their own ways. Neither one is better just different.
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    11-06-2016 07:02 PM
  24. KillerQ's Avatar
    I felt the same way at first coming from 3 phone's with 1440p res back down to 1080p but I got over it when I realized how nice this screen is. The pixel arrangement makes the higher res unnecessary and is pretty much as sharp as an AMOLED arrangement on a screen of similar size. The only trade off is saturation for color accuracy. I like them both in their own ways. Neither one is better just different.
    Good call. I must say, however, that the iPhone screens are nearly FLAWLESS under direct sunlight. Which is waaaay more than I can say for my past phones - especially my Nexus 6P
    11-06-2016 07:08 PM
  25. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    The higher the resolution the more data you could potentially burn. I don't have unlimited data through my carrier so I slightly lower resolution helps me keep my consumption in check.
    11-07-2016 05:20 AM
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