1. substring's Avatar
    Apple made two versions of iPhone 7 and one of them sucks. I am so glad that I am on Verizon Wireless.

    Apple made two versions of the iPhone 7 -- and one of them sucks
    10-21-2016 10:18 PM
  2. itsnotmeitsyou's Avatar
    Apple made two versions of iPhone 7 and one of them sucks. I am so glad that I am on Verizon Wireless.

    Apple made two versions of the iPhone 7 -- and one of them sucks
    I've heard people say they haven't noticed a bit of difference in real world usage.
    MooMooPrincess likes this.
    10-21-2016 10:20 PM
  3. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    The author of that article has published nine articles for "TNW" in the last 24 hours. I'm not sure how much I care about his opinion.
    10-21-2016 10:24 PM
  4. Garz's Avatar
    Out performs by 30%? I can't stop laughing. No bench marks or facts behind this.
    10-21-2016 11:23 PM
  5. itsnotmeitsyou's Avatar
    Out performs by 30%? I can't stop laughing. No bench marks or facts behind this.
    There was actually a reputable company who confirmed this with different speed tests. However, I have yet to hear anyone complain about any difference in actual usage.
    MooMooPrincess and decypher44 like this.
    10-21-2016 11:24 PM
  6. Garz's Avatar
    I think if it was 30%, this would have been all over the place. Could there be slight performance change that an average person wouldn't notice? Absolutely. But we are talking 30%. This would have been another Gate if so.
    10-21-2016 11:27 PM
  7. itsnotmeitsyou's Avatar
    I think if it was 30%, this would have been all over the place. Could there be slight performance change that an average person wouldn't notice? Absolutely. But we are talking 30%. This would have been another Gate if so.
    http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/20/...s-intel-modem/

    "In all three tests, both the iPhone 7 Plus models offered similar performance in ideal conditions, but as power levels decreased, Cellular Insights saw "unexplainable sharp dips in performance" in the Intel modem, finding a gap "north of 30%" in favor of the Qualcomm iPhone 7 Plus."
    decypher44 likes this.
    10-21-2016 11:29 PM
  8. Garz's Avatar
    http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/20/...s-intel-modem/

    "In all three tests, both the iPhone 7 Plus models offered similar performance in ideal conditions, but as power levels decreased, Cellular Insights saw "unexplainable sharp dips in performance" in the Intel modem, finding a gap "north of 30%" in favor of the Qualcomm iPhone 7 Plus."
    So I'm confused how this is still better. This is LTE modem, right? Then why are there so many Verizon users complaining about cellular issues? Maybe that was finally fixed with this last update. 30% better shouldn't mean many complaints about cellular issues. This still makes no sense.
    10-21-2016 11:35 PM
  9. itsnotmeitsyou's Avatar
    So I'm confused how this is still better. This is LTE modem, right? Then why are there so many Verizon users complaining about cellular issues? Maybe that was finally fixed with this last update. 30% better shouldn't mean many complaints about cellular issues. This still makes no sense.
    Based on the speed tests done in this article, only the T-Mobile and AT&T models are affected. Not sure why Verizon users are complaining about cellular issues.
    10-21-2016 11:38 PM
  10. Garz's Avatar
    Based on the speed tests done in this article, only the T-Mobile and AT&T models are affected. Not sure why Verizon users are complaining about cellular issues.
    Threads all over the forums here about it. Tests that one person does doesn't mean that is real life situation for everybody else. It's fluff.
    10-21-2016 11:43 PM
  11. itsnotmeitsyou's Avatar
    Threads all over the forums here about it. Tests that one person does doesn't mean that is real life situation for everybody else. It's fluff.
    Did you read the article or are you just ranting? They were professionally conducted tests, ran multiple times on multiple devices. I don't understand why you're arguing it? It's been proven already.
    nelonez likes this.
    10-21-2016 11:44 PM
  12. Garz's Avatar
    Did you read the article or are you just ranting? They were professionally conducted tests, ran multiple times on multiple devices. I don't understand why you're arguing it? It's been proven already.
    I read it. Proven what? Looks at real life usage with threads over Verizon users having issues in this forum. Should I believe 100's or a so called proven test. I believe the realize usage, thank you.

    Professional. Lmao.
    BreakingKayfabe likes this.
    10-21-2016 11:50 PM
  13. itsnotmeitsyou's Avatar
    I read it. Proven what? Looks at real life usage with threads over Verizon users having issues i this forum. Should I believe 100's or a so called proven test. I believe the realize usage, thank you.
    Lol
    10-21-2016 11:51 PM
  14. Garz's Avatar
    Lol
    It's not me. It's you.
    SwitchBeach likes this.
    10-21-2016 11:52 PM
  15. RHChan84's Avatar
    I remember reading that Qualcomm has the licenses for USA LTE bands so that's why there are two processors.

    This applies to Samsung Note devices. International versions has the Exynos processor and USA version has Qualcomm.
    10-22-2016 12:12 AM
  16. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Having been on AT&T and being on T-Mobile now (3 different iPhones on T-Mobile btw), I can tell you for a certainty that 1.) T-Mobile has faster LTE speeds than AT&T (last I checked), 2.) there is not a signal performance difference between the iPhones 6s/6s Plus/7 Plus on T-Mobile. This is also based on usage across the US in varied strengths of signal. If anything, the 7 Plus gets better reception/connectivity with weaker connections than previous models. In case you were wondering, I do not agree with a single point in the argument that the T-Mobile is worse than the Verizon one.
    mmohn01 likes this.
    10-22-2016 02:39 AM
  17. Jeroen7's Avatar
    Seems like almost the same discussion as last year...

    Two different processors are not the same, specially with the dual component that one side is used for low activity to save battery power and the other for performance, you can't really tell from these tests which kicks in. Maybe the one that looses a bit of performance when the battery is lower lasts a lot longer on a full charge? Has that also been considered?

    In the end, they both meet the standards set by apple.
    10-22-2016 02:43 AM
  18. jneusch's Avatar
    Based on the speed tests done in this article, only the T-Mobile and AT&T models are affected. Not sure why Verizon users are complaining about cellular issues.
    There was a software issue that was resolved with 10.0.3. My VZ phone has been flawless with LTE performance since the update.

    The VZ model with the Qualcomm modem will also be worth more at resale due to the modem covering all bands. The Intel modem doesn't include the CDMA radios. This of course doesn't affect performance, but certainly something to consider when buying.
    10-22-2016 06:17 AM
  19. substring's Avatar
    This might be slightly off topic, but being a Verizon Wireless customer for over 5 years, I never ever have reception or bandwidth problem everywhere I go. Very often when I attended professional conference where the conference WiFi could not handle the large crowd (30,000 - 50,000 attendees), I stayed on my VzW and was perfectly fine. But other attendees on AT&T complained they did not have the reception and had to rely on WiFi.
    10-22-2016 03:20 PM
  20. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    This might be slightly off topic, but being a Verizon Wireless customer for over 5 years, I never ever have reception or bandwidth problem everywhere I go. Very often when I attended professional conference where the conference WiFi could not handle the large crowd (30,000 - 50,000 attendees), I stayed on my VzW and was perfectly fine. But other attendees on AT&T complained they did not have the reception and had to rely on WiFi.
    Although this isn't really the subject of the OP, I can vouch for this. I used AT&T for a very long time. Since 2007 as a matter of fact. Then in June I switched to Verizon and can't believe that my phone uses data so well in low signal areas without a hitch. The bandwidth and lack of interference seems a lot better for me than it ever did on AT&T.
    MooMooPrincess likes this.
    10-22-2016 03:49 PM
  21. applefan4515's Avatar


    Yup. This intel modem is killing me. How ever can I make it through life with speeds this slow?!
    Tartarus, mhettrich and rdubmu like this.
    10-22-2016 07:33 PM
  22. eyecrispy's Avatar
    I read somewhere that the Qualcomm modem was better when the 7 released. I am using a Verizon mode on ATT. I did that for resale bc it supports CDMA and GSM but am glad it has the Qualcomm modem. I doubt I'd be able to tell a difference in real world use, but whatever.
    10-22-2016 07:37 PM
  23. jorge Hewitson's Avatar
    I'm sure apple, is that different versions of iphones have a similiar performance
    10-23-2016 07:16 AM
  24. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    This is why I never preorder or buy new tech the day it drops. I was going to buy a 7+ from AT&T when they became readily available. Obviously that would have been a mistake. Now I've decided to get the sim free version directly from Apple. It will cost a few dollars more per month but will be worth it to have the better modem.

    I've been checking my signal lately for another reason and I'm very often in the -100 dBm to -110 dBm range which is where the intel modem drops off the most. I'm glad this info came out before I made a mistake.
    10-23-2016 07:43 AM
  25. recDNA's Avatar
    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...f94d4f00b0.jpg

    Yup. This intel modem is killing me. How ever can I make it through life with speeds this slow?!
    The article says the problem arises only in weak signal areas.
    itsnotmeitsyou likes this.
    10-23-2016 10:17 AM
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