1. itsnotmeitsyou's Avatar
    The article says the problem arises only in weak signal areas.
    I've already learned that there is no point in trying to present facts. People will hear/read what they want to hear/read and take everything out of context.
    10-23-2016 10:59 AM
  2. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    The article says the problem arises only in weak signal areas.
    I've already learned that there is no point in trying to present facts. People will hear/read what they want to hear/read and take everything out of context.
    It's ok, I use my Intel modem phone is areas of lower coverage all the time with no issues.
    10-23-2016 11:03 AM
  3. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    It's ok, I use my Intel modem phone is areas of lower coverage all the time with no issues.
    "No issues" as compared to what?? You have no clue whether it's performing as well as a Qualcomm version.

    Those who bought the Intel version and who are past their return date will argue until they're blue in the face that their phone isn't affected by the subpar modem. Doesn't make it so.
    10-23-2016 11:27 AM
  4. si001's Avatar
    This is why I never preorder or buy new tech the day it drops. I was going to buy a 7+ from AT&T when they became readily available. Obviously that would have been a mistake. Now I've decided to get the sim free version directly from Apple. It will cost a few dollars more per month but will be worth it to have the better modem.

    I've been checking my signal lately for another reason and I'm very often in the -100 dBm to -110 dBm range which is where the intel modem drops off the most. I'm glad this info came out before I made a mistake.
    I bought mine directly from apple and I have the intel modem so you might want to double check that before buying.
    10-23-2016 11:39 AM
  5. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    "No issues" as compared to what?? You have no clue whether it's performing as well as a Qualcomm version.

    Those who bought the Intel version and who are past their return date will argue until they're blue in the face that their phone isn't affected by the subpar modem. Doesn't make it so.
    And it's supposed to be better compared to what? Does my phone work? Yes.
    Does it work as expected? Yes. Are there any performance issues? No. Are there any connectivity issues? No. The problem with tests like these is that it's sole purpose is to make people claim theirs is superior. The effects are tiny and not noticeable.
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    10-23-2016 11:42 AM
  6. donnation's Avatar
    "No issues" as compared to what?? You have no clue whether it's performing as well as a Qualcomm version.

    Those who bought the Intel version and who are past their return date will argue until they're blue in the face that their phone isn't affected by the subpar modem. Doesn't make it so.
    I think you're making way to big of a deal over this. I have both versions of the 7Plus and I can tell you that when using both phones in weaker signal areas I can't tell a difference. If it was being measured by some people in a lab then they might be telling me that its different, but its not something I see with my eyes using both phones.
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    10-23-2016 11:53 AM
  7. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    I bought mine directly from apple and I have the intel modem so you might want to double check that before buying.
    Did you buy the sim free model on the iPhone upgrade program or did you upgrade using your att account? Who do you pay your payment to?
    10-23-2016 12:00 PM
  8. mogelijk's Avatar
    The article says the problem arises only in weak signal areas.
    It is also possible that the issue will be fixed with software updates.
    10-23-2016 12:47 PM
  9. recDNA's Avatar
    Did you buy the sim free model on the iPhone upgrade program or did you upgrade using your att account? Who do you pay your payment to?
    How can a phone be sim free?
    10-23-2016 12:48 PM
  10. mikezmac's Avatar
    http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/20/...s-intel-modem/

    "In all three tests, both the iPhone 7 Plus models offered similar performance in ideal conditions, but as power levels decreased, Cellular Insights saw "unexplainable sharp dips in performance" in the Intel modem, finding a gap "north of 30%" in favor of the Qualcomm iPhone 7 Plus."
    You read that wrong. That 30% is the delimitation point where the deviation in the chart begins.
    10-23-2016 12:56 PM
  11. mikezmac's Avatar
    This issue only comes into play when you have low signal strength. One of them will be able to handle the low signal strength much better than the other.
    10-23-2016 12:59 PM
  12. si001's Avatar
    Did you buy the sim free model on the iPhone upgrade program or did you upgrade using your att account? Who do you pay your payment to?
    SIM free, no update program. My payment was made to the Apple Store
    10-23-2016 01:23 PM
  13. itsnotmeitsyou's Avatar
    It's ok, I use my Intel modem phone is areas of lower coverage all the time with no issues.
    Again, proving my point that nobody reads and takes everything out of context. If you read any of my previous posts, you'd see that I was only talking about the numbers. I even specifically wrote that I have not seen anybody complain about it affecting actual use.
    10-23-2016 01:33 PM
  14. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    SIM free, no update program. My payment was made to the Apple Store
    If you have the unlocked sim free version then you have the Qualcomm modem.
    10-23-2016 02:48 PM
  15. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Again, proving my point that nobody reads and takes everything out of context. If you read any of my previous posts, you'd see that I was only talking about the numbers. I even specifically wrote that I have not seen anybody complain about it affecting actual use.
    And that's my point too. The numbers, that's all they are. Do the numbers matter when they bear no real world effects?
    10-23-2016 04:46 PM
  16. applefan4515's Avatar
    The article says the problem arises only in weak signal areas.
    Then people are complaining that that it's slow in low service areas. Hmm. Alright. I'm at home right now. Where I go between 1-2 dots of service. I'd call that low service. Again. How will I ever live with these slow speeds?!
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    10-23-2016 06:06 PM
  17. recDNA's Avatar
    Then people are complaining that that it's slow in low service areas. Hmm. Alright. I'm at home right now. Where I go between 1-2 dots of service. I'd call that low service. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...ce620f91c3.jpg Again. How will I ever live with these slow speeds?!
    But with an iphone 6 you might have 4 bars
    10-23-2016 06:11 PM
  18. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    But with an iphone 6 you might have 4 bars
    Incorrect, the piece of tech in question is not the radio itself. It also states the performance difference occurs when your connectivity reaches a strength of roughly -105. So it would be a comparison of a Verizon/Sprint iPhone at 1-2 bars and an AT&T/T-Mobile at 1-2 bars.
    10-23-2016 06:26 PM
  19. itsnotmeitsyou's Avatar
    And that's my point too. The numbers, that's all they are. Do the numbers matter when they bear no real world effects?
    Okay? Why did you need to quote me in it? I'm not the one who created the thread. I was only citing sources.
    10-23-2016 06:31 PM
  20. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Okay? Why did you need to quote me in it? I'm not the one who created the thread. I was only citing sources.
    I quoted you because you're comment was about people taking it out of context. The context is that in areas with weak coverage the intel chip is a subpar chip. However in real world usage there is no difference. As far as the source, they manufactured the situations for testing rather than testing in real world situations.
    10-23-2016 06:38 PM
  21. applefan4515's Avatar
    But with an iphone 6 you might have 4 bars
    Nope. I have averaged 1-2 dots where I live with this 7 plus, the 6s plus, the 6 plus, the 5s, and the 5.
    recDNA likes this.
    10-23-2016 07:15 PM
  22. donnation's Avatar
    But with an iphone 6 you might have 4 bars
    Where is it saying that the intel version has a weaker antenna than the Qualcomm version? They'd both have 2 bars, but according to the source the Qualcomm version would be faster in the lower signal areas.
    10-23-2016 07:51 PM
  23. Ling Cheung's Avatar
    These is not unusual because apple often use different suppliers for the same components.
    10-24-2016 01:39 AM
  24. comiken205's Avatar
    The Cubs are going to the World Series because the iPhone for Verizon has a Qualcomm. If it didn't, then the Dodgers would be going.
    donnation likes this.
    10-24-2016 01:52 AM
  25. YankInDaSouth's Avatar
    This is interesting... when I first got my T-Mobile iPhone 7 Plus I ran speed tests and got about 60-70mbs down in an area that my S7 Edge consistently got 100+mbs down. Honestly didn't think anything of it but reading this article may explain why.
    10-24-2016 04:16 AM
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