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    Quote Originally Posted by Adawg1203 View Post
    Respectfully disagree. I've done nothing to my Note 5 and it feels snappier than my 6s+. Whether it's true or not I don't know as they both are "beasts" in their own skin.

    The term android device when compared to an iPhone gets thrown around too loosely IMO. There are so many different levels of android devices and not all are iPhone equivalents. Folks experiences with android will vary by device because you have choice but not all android devices are meant to compete with an iPhone pound for pound.

    Today's top android devices give you top notch performance out the box without going into any developer options which most people don't do anyway.

    The fact is, android software and manufacturer hardware is better and can match iPhone performance or exceed it depending on the device.
    I agree with this. There are some Android devices that are on par or even better than the iPhone. But then there are some Android smartphones that struggle to do regular things.
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    Just curious did you choose the s+ or regular 6s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slammers08 View Post
    Just curious did you choose the s+ or regular 6s?
    6s plus
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    Note 5
    - Better screen (ALOT better)
    - Nicer design
    - Android works better for me
    - Fast Charging
    - Better camera

    6S Plus
    - Better battery life (9-5 Note 5 vs All day 6S Plus with moderate to heavy usage)
    - Warranty
    - iOS looks better to me and "Just works"
    - Facetime/Ecosystem
    - Accessories

    Battery Life being the most important thing for me the Note 5 just didnt cut it! Everything else was REALLY nice though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooMooPrincess View Post
    For me not really. I only got the 6s plus so it would be on par with a rooted note 5 once I jailbroke it. But no jailbreak so it's just the same as my note 5 *to me*. What i miss most is
    * fast charging (my note 5 and plus barely net me 4-5 hours screen time but note 5 charges in half the time of my plus...im at 15% and only have 4 hrs of useage)
    * screen (iPhones is sub-par for price tag/to note 5s)
    * play store (better free apps imo)
    * 3rd party keyboards (iOS 3rd party sucks)
    * being able to put music on my phone without iTunes or an app
    *ringtones
    *back button (just personal preference )
    *root
    *bigger screens but smaller phones (iPhone is super long)
    *easy access to my files and customization (folders only are just meh)
    *fonts
    But you sound pretty set on a iPhone, just go get one lol.
    Those are all pretty much spot on. If you can live with all of those limitations, then the iPhone will work fine for you.

    I really miss the fast charge. Getting 8 hours of use out of a 15 minute charge is amazing. Every time I am in the airport I see the Apple owners all lined up along the walls charging their phones... LOL

    I am actually getting pretty decent battery life though on my 6S Plus... It isn't the best I have had, but it isn't the worst.

    Having to rely on iTunes sucks, as that software platform is an abomination...

    But the phone works... If I hadn't come from Android, I wouldn't know what I was missing and I would think it was the neatest thing since sliced bread
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    Quote Originally Posted by mumfoau View Post
    Thanks! I'm certain I will. From using my iPad Air 2, I know 2GB of RAM on an iPhone will be nutty!
    2GB of RAM is nothing. My Air 2 and my 6S Plus run out of RAM all the time, forcing me to manually go in and swipe away apps to free up RAM so that my browser stops reloading pages and lagging, or Chromecast can start working, etc...

    2GB in this day and age is pitiful.

    Reboot your Air 2, wait 60 seconds, and then run a utility to see how much RAM you have available, The iOS footprint itself and the needed services, use over 1GB of your RAM, leaving you less than 1GB to actually work with.

    It's horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquireSCA View Post
    Those are all pretty much spot on. If you can live with all of those limitations, then the iPhone will work fine for you.

    I really miss the fast charge. Getting 8 hours of use out of a 15 minute charge is amazing. Every time I am in the airport I see the Apple owners all lined up along the walls charging their phones... LOL

    I am actually getting pretty decent battery life though on my 6S Plus... It isn't the best I have had, but it isn't the worst.

    Having to rely on iTunes sucks, as that software platform is an abomination...

    But the phone works... If I hadn't come from Android, I wouldn't know what I was missing and I would think it was the neatest thing since sliced bread
    I'm living happily with those limitations for a little over a month after years on Android (since 2010 with the original Droid X).

    For a quicker charge, get an iPad charger. I use that exclusively. It isn't quite as fast as the Samsung Quick charge, but it's absolutely comparable and MUCH better than the charger that comes with the phone.

    I don't use iTunes for anything other than doing a software restore. Other than that, I just backup to my iCloud.

    It definitely has its faults and isn't perfect by any means. But I have WAY less issues than I ever had on Android. Things tend to work as intended.
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    I switched from a Note 5, to an iPhone 6s Plus today. Still configuring it and all that. Albeit, I miss the option to place icons anywhere and make the bottom bar transparent.
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    Did the same thing recently as above. Don't see myself going back to the Note any time soon.
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    Fired up the Note 5 last night to play with it. Did some very unscientific tests with it against my iPhone 6S plus and it was just about what I thought it was going to be. Performance of the two are just about dead even. iPhone had a slight edge in web browsing and wifi speeds. The biggest difference was in gaming. It was a significant difference between the two devices with the nod going to the iPhone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordwaynewilliams View Post
    Fired up the Note 5 last night to play with it. Did some very unscientific tests with it against my iPhone 6S plus and it was just about what I thought it was going to be. Performance of the two are just about dead even. iPhone had a slight edge in web browsing and wifi speeds. The biggest difference was in gaming. It was a significant difference between the two devices with the nod going to the iPhone.
    Seriously, to me the ONLY thing I don't like about the iPhone, well, iOS, is I can't configure the screens as I want. Like having my icons only on the bottom row. Also for the love of cheese, can't we have a transparent bottom bar? Ugh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeTheNorthRTZ View Post
    Note 5
    - Better screen (ALOT better)
    - Nicer design
    - Android works better for me
    - Fast Charging
    - Better camera

    6S Plus
    - Better battery life (9-5 Note 5 vs All day 6S Plus with moderate to heavy usage)
    - Warranty
    - iOS looks better to me and "Just works"
    - Facetime/Ecosystem
    - Accessories

    Battery Life being the most important thing for me the Note 5 just didnt cut it! Everything else was REALLY nice though!
    I easily got through the day with the Note 5 however usage varies but the advantage of the Note 5 is its quick charge feature. You could go from zero to fifty in like 15 minutes. Not to mention the wireless charging capability. No reason for Apple to have excluded those features. Also do not forget the Note 5 while it has a much better display it's also a larger display than the iPhone 6/6s Plus in a smaller body that's easier hold. Can't forget the spen. There were two class of Note users 1. Those who used the spen 2. Those who did not use it. The beauty of the spen is its out of site, out of mind. It's there when you need it and out of the way when you don't. The software isn't configured in such a way that makes you use it either, which is nice.

    Now that Apple has their version of a "stylus" it will be interesting to see if they incorporate a version of it in their plus line devices in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ivantwilliams View Post
    Seriously, to me the ONLY thing I don't like about the iPhone, well, iOS, is I can't configure the screens as I want. Like having my icons only on the bottom row. Also for the love of cheese, can't we have a transparent bottom bar? Ugh...
    I arrange all of my apps in folders anyway so the app arrangement doesn't bother me. But, I agree with you regarding the transparent bottom row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordwaynewilliams View Post
    I arrange all of my apps in folders anyway so the app arrangement doesn't bother me. But, I agree with you regarding the transparent bottom row.
    But that is such a dated and archaic way of doing things... It makes for a really cluttered interface. It's not an interactive desktop environment the way that an Android phone, PC or MacBook is... It's just a static slab of icons...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquireSCA View Post
    But that is such a dated and archaic way of doing things... It makes for a really cluttered interface. It's not an interactive desktop environment the way that an Android phone, PC or MacBook is... It's just a static slab of icons...
    I guess I don't understand. What's so archaic about having icons in folders on the home screen as opposed to having a grid of icons in an app drawer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordwaynewilliams View Post
    I arrange all of my apps in folders anyway so the app arrangement doesn't bother me. But, I agree with you regarding the transparent bottom row.
    I also use folders to organize my apps but that's not the issue. The limitation is you cannot place those folders or apps anywhere on the screen of your choosing. So if you only want four folders on one screen you cannot place those four folders at the bottom, or in the middle or wherever you find them to be most convenient, they automatically just snap to the top. The only way to do that is fill the entire screen with apps and folders then move what you want to the bottom row and work upwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adawg1203 View Post
    I also use folders to organize my apps but that's not the issue. The limitation is you cannot place those folders or apps anywhere on the screen of your choosing. So if you only want four folders on one screen you cannot place those four folders at the bottom they automatically snap to the top. Or in the middle. Or wherever you find them to be the most convenient. The only way to do that is full the entire screen with apps and folders then move what you want to the bottom row and work upwards.
    Sure. If thats what you need to do, I can see how that could be a frustrating limitation. But, is that a deciding factor for you to choose Android over ios?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordwaynewilliams View Post
    Sure. If thats what you need to do, I can see how that could be a frustrating limitation. But, is that a deciding factor for you to choose Android over ios?
    It speaks to the overall UI differences.

    iOS still has a lot of the same limitations that it had in 2007, this being but one of them. Apple has been very slow to adopt and adapt to what have become industry standard features... At some point they catch on and adopt some Android features and it is met with success.

    Large screens, HD displays and a good Notification module, are among those things that Apple and their fanbase scoffed at for years, but when Apple finally got on board, suddenly sales increased and Apple fans rejoiced over these "new" features... LOL

    The desktop, needs work. Especially when you look at the iPad line, where that same, tired and dull interface is now super-sized.

    I don't want every app installed to be forced to be on the desktop. I want to arrange the icons the way I want, just pulling out my "must have" icons on the desktop, arranged the way that I wish to see and use them, and having an app drawer for everything else.

    I know. you can put all the apps you don't want into a single folder and name it as such, but it just isn't the same.

    If you have used flagship Android phones for awhile, the differences are pretty stark...
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    So the two systems work in reverse to each other. On Android, your homescreen has or could have widgets. And then to get into your apps you go into your app drawer which are static icons in a grid. On iOS your homescreen is an icon grid that you can manage in folders and when you want to see your widgets just pull down the notification shade. They basically do the same thing but in a different fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordwaynewilliams View Post
    Sure. If thats what you need to do, I can see how that could be a frustrating limitation. But, is that a deciding factor for you to choose Android over ios?
    That specific limitation. I'd say, no. I think there are strong arguments that can be made for both platforms when deciding which to go with.

    I'd like to think Individual needs and taste would be the determining factor but I know that's not always the case either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adawg1203 View Post
    That specific limitation. I'd say, no. I think there are strong arguments that can be made for both platforms when deciding which to go with.

    I'd like to think Individual needs and taste would be the determining factor but I know that's not always the case either.
    And that's my issue. My personal preferences lie somewhere in between the two.
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    Again, it is hard to explain...

    on Android, you can really organize things to how you work, and widgets are not limited to a notification screen. The home screens can use them.

    So, I can have a home page for work, with my work email widget, other work apps and at the top of the screen is an email widget showing and accessing my email in real-time. All my work stuff on one screen, new emails streaming by as they come in...

    Another screen is my clock, live weather report and my most used icons...

    Another screen might be my multimedia. One for social media... The live widgets presenting me with real time information and updates right on the home page, with any relevant icons above, below or next to it, depending on how far my thumb can reach when using the phone one handed. I can place the icons in such a way that they are ergonomically easily accessible the way I hold my phone.

    I can organize and arrange things to conform to how I like to work.

    As with anything, Apple has workarounds and you can "sorta do that", but it isn't the same.

    Coming from Apple to Android, is a bit of an eye opener. There are still plenty of things that Android does that Apple can't, and things that Apple fans just got that they think are "new features", they learn that Android had that 2+ years ago. They also find that there are often better, faster ways to do things... Not just the UI, but easy transfer of files without iTunes. Being able to use whatever default apps they want, rather than forced to use Apple apps in order to increase Apple's stock price.

    Apple likes to pretend that their users are more educated and sophisticated. If that's true, they shouldn't they be smart enough to decide for themselves what browser or GPS app to use?

    If I have 30GB free on my phone and want to use it as a USB thumb drive with any Windows/Mac/Linux box in the world for simple drag and drop functionality, why shouldn't I be?

    Coming from Android to Apple, is a bit of a shock for most people. A lot of industry standard, simple and USEFUL features that you just take for granted, you give up. You have to do what took 1 step, now takes 3 steps and you have to buy an app to "sorta" do it, etc...

    That turns a lot of people off. Apple wants to lock you into their ecosystem, so they spend a lot of effort forcing you into their usage model, to pull you in and keep you there, and if that's all you have ever known, it probably won't bother you. Lots of Apple fans that I know, don't even know that they are 2 years behind the curve. They only know what Apple allows them to have, spoon-fed one feature at a time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordwaynewilliams View Post

    So the two systems work in reverse to each other. On Android, your homescreen has or could have widgets. And then to get into your apps you go into your app drawer which are static icons in a grid. On iOS your homescreen is an icon grid that you can manage in folders and when you want to see your widgets just pull down the notification shade. They basically do the same thing but in a different fashion.
    IMO the two systems do not work in reverse of each other, at all.

    You DO NOT have to go into the app drawer to get into your apps on android IF they are on one of your home screens. As an example, on an android device if you do not keep the clock app on a home screen and want to access it later then go into the app drawer. On iOS for iPhone there is nothing you can do with the clock app other than put it in a folder, but it will always be a part of one of your home screens, along with other apps you rarely use, as there is nothing you can do with them, per se. Not sure what's being done in the reverse here.

    Onto the widgets. iOS' attempt at widgets are not nearly to the same scale of what android widgets are. Android widgets are interactive, customizable, and can be placed anywhere. No pull down required. I don't see anything being done in the reverse here either.

    Android provides customization when it comes to home screens and iOS does not. Or it can be said that iOS is very limited with how you can customize its screens. Widgets, I just do not think is a contest between the two operating systems, even if done in a different fashion. Perhaps Apple will expand the capabilities of what they call "widgets" but as of now it's not something that can be compared to the android experience.
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    I have an iPhone 6s Plus and Nexus 6P currently but had a Galaxy s6 and a note 5 for awhile. I will say the note 5 is an absolutely gorgeous phone to hold and use and the camera is much better than the iphone. It focuses and snaps pics so much faster than my iphone or nexus. For me I prefer the nexus and iphone because they are de-cruddified. After using Samsung for a few month it always started to bother me with the slowdowns and having to tweak things constantly to get decent battery life. If they released a GPE of the Notes or Galaxies I'd probably be back in with Samsung more often than I am.
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    IMO the two systems do not work in reverse of each other, at all.

    You DO NOT have to go into the app drawer to get into your apps on android IF they are on one of your home screens. As an example, on an android device if you do not keep the clock app on a home screen and want to access it later then go into the app drawer. On iOS for iPhone there is nothing you can do with the clock app other than put it in a folder, but it will always be a part of one of your home screens, along with other apps you rarely use, as there is nothing you can do with them, per se. Not sure what's being done in the reverse here.

    Onto the widgets. iOS' attempt at widgets are not nearly to the same scale of what android widgets are. Android widgets are interactive, customizable, and can be placed anywhere. No pull down required. I don't see anything being done in the reverse here either.

    Android provides customization when it comes to home screens and iOS does not. Or it can be said that iOS is very limited with how you can customize its screens. Widgets, I just do not think is a contest between the two operating systems, even if done in a different fashion. Perhaps Apple will expand the capabilities of what they call "widgets" but as of now it's not something that can be compared to the android experience.
    You are right on the money.

    I think that iOS when it came out, was brilliant. But at one time, Windows 3.11 was considered cutting edge, compared to DOS.

    Technology and how people interact with their phones, has changed, dramatically.

    Widgets and real time info of things as they happen, is common. Apple took a crack at it and it is better than nothing, but it is not in the ballpark of Android. Is it usable? Sure! Is it as good as it COULD be?

    Not even close.

    Apple tries too hard to make things "*****-proof", but if taken too far, you actually make it harder to use.

    Case in point.

    I have a large PDF file, it is a shop manual for one of my ATV's. I want a copy on my iPad or phone, not in the cloud, because I could be on a trip somewhere and need it and might not have a cell signal in the woods...

    On an Android or Windows device, you just plug it into a PC, it pops up like a thumb drive, I drag it to the device and it copies. That's it. I have a file manager on the device, just like you do on a PC or Mac, and I click the icon, grab the file and the first time I try to open it, it asks me which app I prefer to use to read the file and presents me with a list. I select my preferred app and it will remember that.

    From now on, all I have to do is click the PDF file and it just launches it with the app that I told it to. One click, simple.

    On iDevices if you don't wan to use the cloud... I can't just drag and drop a PDF to the device. I have to install an app and mess around with it in iTunes to get it to copy it over.

    Then I need an app to simulate a file manager to go and find that file. When I click on the file, it only lets me select the default app that Apple in all their wisdom decided that I should use because as a 43 year old tech savvy guy, I can't have that kind of power and freedom. LOL

    Ok, so it launches with that app. But there is a problem! The default app can only access a 50mb file, and my file is 75mb!

    So after telling me it cannot open with that, it THEN lets me pick another app to open it with, and it copies the file over to that and finally lets me open it.

    Here is the catch. I now have two copies of that file taking up space on my device. The Default app has a copy in its sandbox, and my preferred app has one.

    But wait, there's more! Next time I want to access that file, I have to go through the whole process again... open the pseudo file manager app, find it, select it, have it open in the default app, have it fail, and then have it allow me to select which app I want and then and only then can I open my damned file.

    On what planet is that considered "user friendly"? That is a horrible user experience by any measure and if I have to jump through that many hoops every time I want to open s stupid PDF, how the hell is my mom gonna figure it out? LOL

    The fact that there is no user file system, for me to just save email attachments(other than pics) to a "My Stuff" or "My Downloads" folder that I can just go to and access later, or easily attach a saved file to an email, like every other platform on the planet allows, is another crazy limitation that doesn't need to be there.

    Long time Apple fans just accept it as "what it is", because most of them don't know that there is a better way. They have lived with those limitations and molded their usage patterns around them. They don't know what they don't know, in many cases...

    Coming from Android though, where a simplified user experience is common, with a much more streamlined way of dong things, and many of them "just work" out of the box, is an eye opener.

    Like others have said, most of these things "can" be done on an iDevice, but more often than not it is through apps, work-arounds, cloud services and extra steps... It's not nearly as intuitive as many Apple fans like to claim.

    The Apple hardware, TOP NOTCH. And iOS does have some cool elements. But side by side, measured against the features, the polish and the overall ease of use, mixed with more power and customization... iOS is an antiquated platform in many ways compared to Android. Google is pushing the envelope, and Apple is playing catch up.

    Google is now the world's most valuable company. Android is installed on more devices that ANY OS in the world. That includes the PC and server markets. It is the most installed OS of any kind, that the world has ever seen, and their stock price has doubled while Apple's is half of what it used to be.

    This isn't a bash on Apple, as you know, I am now running both an iPad and an iPhone... But it is what it is...

    Both are great products, but Android clearly has a lot of advantages...
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