1. ILUMINATIUNDEAD's Avatar
    Has anyone gone from Z10 to iphone5s or vice versa? What's your experience and input on it? I'm just curious. Thanks
    12-21-2013 05:50 PM
  2. rajeshr68's Avatar
    Have used a Z10 (and a Q10) and then moved to Android \ iOS now.

    The advantages of the Z10 were the keyboard (IMHO, the best virtual keyboard on any platform), the Hub and BBM(now available on other platforms). I also personally liked the customizable notifications. However, I think most people will find iOS (and Android) more to their taste as the amount of the apps available on BB10 is minuscule as compared to iOS/Android. You'll also find that the iPhone 5S sports one of the best smartphone camera (along with the Nokia 1020), so I think that once you move over you will not find a reason to go back to the Z10 (unless the notifications are a deal breaker).
    12-21-2013 06:19 PM
  3. Spencerdl's Avatar
    Have used a Z10 (and a Q10) and then moved to Android \ iOS now.

    The advantages of the Z10 were the keyboard (IMHO, the best virtual keyboard on any platform), the Hub and BBM(now available on other platforms). I also personally liked the customizable notifications. However, I think most people will find iOS (and Android) more to their taste as the amount of the apps available on BB10 is minuscule as compared to iOS/Android. You'll also find that the iPhone 5S sports one of the best smartphone camera (along with the Nokia 1020), so I think that once you move over you will not find a reason to go back to the Z10 (unless the notifications are a deal breaker).
    EXACTLY.....could not have described it better. I still have my Z10, but rarely use it
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    12-21-2013 06:39 PM
  4. Ricky Ramadhan's Avatar
    I currently use Z10 and ip5s.
    Z10 is the best virtual keyboard
    And ip5s the best camera and touch ID so awesome
    I need them, can't lose one of them
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    12-21-2013 07:25 PM
  5. kataran's Avatar
    Welcome to iMore

    I heard the Z10 is a solid device but I never had the chance to try one out


    Sent from my iPhone 5s Gold 64GB
    12-21-2013 10:28 PM
  6. ILUMINATIUNDEAD's Avatar
    so you're saying it all comes down between a keyboard and a camera? It seems like a keyboard would be more important then.
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    12-21-2013 11:53 PM
  7. Speedygi's Avatar
    I have a Z10, and to me, the Blackberry 10 is just a better phone OS for me. It's more communication centric and it shows through with the keyboard and the hub which in my opinion are better than iOS' implementations. I have an iPad mini for deeper app needs if necessary.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
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    12-22-2013 04:06 AM
  8. Spencerdl's Avatar
    so you're saying it all comes down between a keyboard and a camera? It seems like a keyboard would be more important then.
    The Z10's virtual keyboard is second to none, the best out there, but thats it. The Hub just makes it easier to see different notifications at a glance which is also awesome, however the iphone is better at everything else. I currently have both devices, but I find that my "go to device" is the Gold iphone 5s. The iphone just works
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    12-22-2013 05:28 AM
  9. radar_1969's Avatar
    100% what the doc said. Z10 has THE best virtual keyboard.
    12-22-2013 07:26 AM
  10. Speedygi's Avatar
    The Z10's virtual keyboard is second to none, the best out there, but thats it. The Hub just makes it easier to see different notifications at a glance which is also awesome, however the iphone is better at everything else. I currently have both devices, but I find that my "go to device" is the Gold iphone 5s. The iphone just works
    It's true, iOS just has so many more apps than anything else except Android, that it becomes a joke at this point...
    12-22-2013 07:51 AM
  11. i7guy's Avatar
    The Z10's virtual keyboard is second to none, the best out there, but thats it. The Hub just makes it easier to see different notifications at a glance which is also awesome, however the iphone is better at everything else. I currently have both devices, but I find that my "go to device" is the Gold iphone 5s. The iphone just works
    As much as i like my iphone, the z30 would have been my next choice if slightly smaller. I dont require millions of apps. BB has much better notifications plus more options for customizations. As far as the iphone just working, yes within a margin.
    12-22-2013 07:19 PM
  12. mikeo007's Avatar
    I have a Q10, so obviously the keyboard experience is better, but the iPhone is just a much better all-around device. That being said, Blackberry does have some niche features that some people can't do without. If the hub or the keyboard are absolute deal-breakers, then you'll want to get a Blackberry phone. However, if they're just "nice to haves" then the iPhone has a heck of a lot more "nice to have" features.

    You've also got android in the mix, which offers more features than Apple or blackberry, but it also comes with its own trade-offs.
    12-22-2013 07:26 PM
  13. shief24's Avatar
    I had the z10 for a while and it's really not a bad phone. I loved custom notifications, the hub, deleting mass emails easily, led light. The smoothness. But I hated the apps and the fact that you can't really run background apps. I actually disliked the keyboard but I loved it on the q10.
    12-22-2013 08:00 PM
  14. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Welcome to the forums.
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    12-22-2013 08:35 PM
  15. meashishnd's Avatar
    Has anyone gone from Z10 to iphone5s or vice versa? What's your experience and input on it? I'm just curious. Thanks
    1stly welcome to iMore and iOS , wow its so nice and very lovely thinking to changeover simplicity the best
    12-22-2013 10:43 PM
  16. whatsever's Avatar
    I had the z10 for a while and it's really not a bad phone. I loved custom notifications, the hub, deleting mass emails easily, led light. The smoothness. But I hated the apps and the fact that you can't really run background apps. I actually disliked the keyboard but I loved it on the q10.
    The Z10 has beter resolution, sharper, screen 4,2 inch, 1,5 Ghz instead of 1,3 Ghz, better reception, 2x more Ram memory, real multitasking up to 8 apps instead of app switch tasking, better virtueel keyboard, easyly upgradeable to 80 GB for only 50 euro/dollar and the phone is cheaper and never crash,hickup in 11 months owning now a Z30 - 5 inch.

    Apple has finger scanner and lot of apps but how many apps are U using and what will you use , if it's moslly social than blackberry is much quicker and better and blackberry is compatible with mac, airtunes and apple TV>
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    12-23-2013 06:02 AM
  17. reeneebob's Avatar
    I loved the ability to add memory to my z10...until I had to remove the sdcard so my phone didn't randomly reboot during phone calls 75 times a day.

    The rest is personal opinion, although the higher ram is necessary to operate the phone. The 5 was just as fast with half the specs as the z because the OS isn't bloated.

    Did like the keyboard though. However BBs legendary crappy hardware quality control issues ruined the phone for me.
    12-23-2013 07:25 AM
  18. larsonage's Avatar
    I love the multitasking on the Z10. It was so easy to move to another app.
    12-23-2013 07:58 AM
  19. shief24's Avatar
    The Z10 has beter resolution, sharper, screen 4,2 inch, 1,5 Ghz instead of 1,3 Ghz, better reception, 2x more Ram memory, real multitasking up to 8 apps instead of app switch tasking, better virtueel keyboard, easyly upgradeable to 80 GB for only 50 euro/dollar and the phone is cheaper and never crash,hickup in 11 months owning now a Z30 - 5 inch.

    Apple has finger scanner and lot of apps but how many apps are U using and what will you use , if it's moslly social than blackberry is much quicker and better and blackberry is compatible with mac, airtunes and apple TV>
    Some of your points are valid and some don't apply to me. For example I actually made more typos on the z10 using its keyboard. Also the real multitasking of up to 8 apps is great except that if you want to use custom led colours for example you need the app to be running in the background if you accidentally close it, it won't work. Headless apps still don't work. So in that sense multi tasking is better on the iPhone. The rest of your points I agree with. But for me those things ruined my experience with the z10 and I actually know it's getting better.
    12-23-2013 08:46 AM
  20. megajo123's Avatar
    Dear Santa- Why can't BlackBerry ,Apple, Google, and Microsoft just hug it out and create a Super OS with the best features of all their Operating Systems :'(
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    12-23-2013 01:08 PM
  21. megajo123's Avatar
    Actually "Color Led Message" is headless now, it does not need an activeframe. So that removes point 2.
    12-23-2013 01:11 PM
  22. shief24's Avatar
    Actually "Color Led Message" is headless now, it does not need an activeframe. So that removes postedIint 2.
    Does it? Well what about everything else besides that? Are all apps headless now or is it still limited to 8 active frames? If the answer is no all apps are not headless now then thst does not remove point 2. Furthermore is that official or in a leak because when I had 10.1 official it still wasn't headless.
    12-23-2013 01:20 PM
  23. megajo123's Avatar
    Well, it says it in the App Description in BlackBerry World, and it works for me, so I think thats pretty official. And you can never expect all apps to be headless, things take time. Though as of now I only know of 2 headless apps, which are the LED one we were talking about and Profile Switcher (Notification profiles) but yea, they're coming. Its a BlackBerry, you've gotta expect it to be slow
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    12-23-2013 01:25 PM
  24. rajeshr68's Avatar
    Does it? Well what about everything else besides that? Are all apps headless now or is it still limited to 8 active frames? If the answer is no all apps are not headless now then thst does not remove point 2. Furthermore is that official or in a leak because when I had 10.1 official it still wasn't headless.
    With 10.2.1 and above, BB now supports headless apps. This should help resolve one of the major issues with the OS, where only 8 apps could be active at one time.

    Hopefully, this should help spur development for the platform but I'm concerned that it may a little too late. The company has an uncertain future and many BB diehards are now moving to Android or iOS.
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    12-23-2013 01:32 PM
  25. blambtn's Avatar
    I came back to Apple from a Z10. I loved the Hub and the keyboard but the battery life was horrible and my data usage almost doubled on the z10. The iPhone 5s just works. The zed 10 had to be reset often and the lack of apps got old really fast. I even side loaded a lot of apps but they didn't work as well in most cases.


    Sent from my iPhone 5s using iMore Forums mobile app
    12-23-2013 02:47 PM
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