Anyone else frustrated with Apple's inability to meet demands?
10-09-2013 08:59 PM
- No i don't just rely on those asinine links. I go thru apple app and apple website as well. I've also called and ask 2 stores several times. They told me that they get some gold but not much and usually gone quickly. I was told to best check early in the mornings. I do checks all thru out the day and night for a week now. I think I will keep at it for one more week and then after that I will move to plan B,C, and D.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDI just prefer the Apple Store as an experience. It's nice to get hands-on time with the products... and the service, even when they are busy, is better than most other retailers when you are the only person in the store.
I was told at my local Apple stores that they aren't doing walk-ins for the 5S. Unless you count walking in and using their computers to still place your order on the website.10-06-2013 01:44 AM
- That seems pretty odd...even our tiniest little store north of the perimeter here in Georgia does walk ins, and it's probably the smallest Apple store there is (it's the size of a McDonalds dining area). You've never seen a line outside of your local store for the 5S? I went to the mall today that houses the large Atlanta main store and there was a line down the upper level walking area for it...thankfully, I was going in the opposite direction, lol!
If you walked in recently, they simply let you use a Mac in the store to complete the same purchase process you could from home on your own computer. I also found that stock updates on the website could occur any time throughout the night... so while some people waited outside the store for it to open, others at home could actually place their orders and come pick up the phones once the store opened.10-06-2013 02:04 AM
- Apple is very good at keeping demand for their products, and by making it harder to get a device after launch day they are keeping interest.
I personally had to drive 30 minutes away in order to get a silver 16gig today. Just keep calling around and I am sure you will find it. The store I went to just got some in stock this morning, so Apple IS still supplying stores while shipping device orders as well.10-06-2013 02:53 AM
Last edited by Rocket_Girl; 10-06-2013 at 07:41 AM.10-06-2013 07:26 AM
- Glass half empty or half full. Yes, it's frustrating to wait while others have their phones. Yet to think of how much demand they DO meet to get more than 9million devices to every corner of the globe within days let alone a few weeks vs taking months. I believe Apple is the only company that CAN do what they do- and keep doing more and better every year. People wait because they know that it will be worth it- their device will be beautiful and it will work. If they were producing junk, they would have been over years ago.
Even for Apple, there are PEOPLE making these phones - living in dorms, working long hours for wages we would scoff at, under conditions we would not accept for a nanosecond. There are limits- yet despite real, human limits, look what Apple continues to do, year after year. Just sayin...
We start to take for granted what CAN happen and DOES happen - because we don't notice all that goes right. Like walking around with a computer in the palm of your hand - more powerful than all the computers combined that ran all the space shuttles. Seriously: each shuttle ran on four 386 computers - for those who remember 386s., You have more computing power in your car, in your house, in your office, and yes- in your pocket, in your iPhone.
Multiply by 9 million in launch weekend - and how many more thereafter. And Apple is way more than just iPhones- and all of Apple keeps working flawlessly before, during, and after a launch. And one can sit in their LaZBoy and watch their individual phone make it's way around the world -from factory to their door. And it will get there when they say it will. And within second of unboxing, with a few swipes, (still in the LaZBoy) - it will work. That's a lot going right, my friend.
Good luck- I do hope you have a 5s in hand soon!10-06-2013 08:07 AM
- 10-06-2013 08:23 AM
- As an Apple stock holder, I believe apple is doing just as I would like them to do. Its a critical balance between Supply and Demand. You over produce you kill demand. You way underproduce, you alienate and kill interest.
BTW... I'm still waiting for my Gold 32G AT&T. Ordered at 4:41 AM ET. on the 20th. Order still processing. Anyone order one around the same time have any news?
Thanks10-06-2013 08:40 AM
- 10-06-2013 08:43 AM
- You have to understand that they have workers making these nonstop, 24 hours a day. It's not like they are making a few and stopping. To make a product like this with the tight tolerances Apple products demand, it's gonna be a while.
Tappin and Talkin from my iPhone 510-06-2013 10:07 AM
- Look at it this way: You're Apple, selling the iPhone. You have retailers, like Best Buy and Radio Shack, and you have carriers, both moving mountains of inventory... you also have your own retail stores. Moving mountains of inventory. Then, you have individual consumers, ordering through your website. You don't have enough inventory to cover all your bases. Who gets shorted? The big dogs moving millions of dollars of product? When their bottom line (and satisfaction) is dependent on your ability to supply? Because if they don't have it, their customers will go somewhere else. Or maybe your own retail stores? Or would you pick the lesser of all evils, and short the little individual purchasers buying one phone each and wanting them delivered straight to their doorstep?
It's business. Contracts with retail businesses and carriers are worth millions upon millions of dollars over many years. They aren't the sort of people you leave high and dry if you don't absolutely have to... and Apple Stores get shipments daily.
Short answer: The phones are out there. They are in high demand. People are going to great lengths and paying over retail to acquire them. Their money is no different than your money. If the phone isn't coming to you, go find one. If you won't, someone else will.
I spent probably 17 hours spread over two days on my lap top, repeatedly searching and refreshing the inventory page of any Apple store in a 100 mile radius... and when one popped up as "Available Today for in-store pickup" and it was in the size I wanted, I clicked "Buy" and drove to get it. Didn't care how far. Luckily it happened to be only 30 miles, but I would have gone farther if necessary.
So first world problems....... I fully get that and I'm fully aware how lucky I am. Does my getting a phone change Anything in my life? Nothing besides the joy I get out of the day to day use. Am I mad? No. Am I frustrated? Yeah. Will life go on? Sure.10-06-2013 11:01 AM
- The 4S sold 4mil the first four days. The iPhone 5 sold 5 mil first three days. The 5S sold 9mil first three days. Based in these numbers I can understand how Apple underestimated the demand for the 5S. The sales for the 5 to 5s almost doubled on opening weekends. Who can really forecast that.
Faster chip, updated camera, Touch ID, new colors. Apple May have thought these improvement would not create a demand to justify triple or quadruple initial production over the weekend sales of the iPhone 5. We can discuss business models and economics but it could be just as simple as who knew?
I don't believe there is a inability to meet demand Apple did what most companies would do based on their last year opening sales of 5 mil. Lets tack on another 4 plus mil for the 5S. If we sell 6 mil opening weekend we'll have another 3 mil to sell while we are producing more.
Seems like a lot of people switched from Android and then there are those who upgraded early after getting the 5 last year. Then there are people who were eligible for a upgrade. Then people like myself who had the 4S weren't eligible for a upgrade but wanted the 5s anyway.
Throw all these factors together along with some other factors and we have unusual demand like the Perfect Storm scenario.10-06-2013 12:03 PM
- Work conditions is a whole other subject. They could have set back the launch date if they were so behind. It's true they want to keep people in desperation mode as a strategy to keep high demand as a constant for 4 to 5 months.
I wish I was close enough to apple store to hang out in front before every opening. The best I can do is constantly check the website. The staff at the apple store told me its best to check website early every morning. Perhaps certain regions do it differently.
I also wouldn't mind ordering to ship to my home but as I spoke to Apple they told me clearly that they have no idea when it will actually be shipped and so it could be a 2 month wait easily.
As to why I said iphone 5 is better than 5c because i get to keep my upgrade availability for iPhone 6. Also the specs between 5 and 5c are not significant enough to matter.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD10-06-2013 02:42 PM
Anyway, I'm a fan of Apple products and I'd be even a bigger fan if I could get a new iphone in my grubby little hands [BOX][/BOX]10-06-2013 03:49 PM
- Correction, the 5s AND 5c sold 9 million devices in 3 days. Apple didn't include a breakdown on how many of each device was sold. However with the amount of 5S's available we know that 5c is responsible for a good portion of those sales. It's impressive to be sure but I'm guessing the number will be around 5 million 5S's once the breakdown is released. If the rumors of Apple counting 5C's sitting on shelves (that they sold to retailers but retailers didn't actually sell) then that number could actually be lower.
Anyway, I'm a fan of Apple products and I'd be even a bigger fan if I could get a new iphone in my grubby little hands [BOX][/BOX]
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- I can't see a company giving you a discount because they just can't pump the things out quick enough to meet demand. Seems like they can make as much money as they want. Need more cash? Make more devices. By giving you a discount because you have to wait is kinda silly. If you don't like it, go buy a BlackBerry. Better phone and no wait. AND, it actually lets you put attachments in emails...10-07-2013 10:47 AM
- I can't see a company giving you a discount because they just can't pump the things out quick enough to meet demand. Seems like they can make as much money as they want. Need more cash? Make more devices. By giving you a discount because you have to wait is kinda silly. If you don't like it, go buy a BlackBerry. Better phone and no wait. AND, it actually lets you put attachments in emails...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro10-07-2013 11:09 AM
- I'm waiting on two 64GB iPhone 5s - Gold to replace my wife's and my iPhone 4s. However I expected the delay. It's going to be at least 3 weeks (2 weeks to go) till the orders come through. Can't wait. I don't blame Apple, I just believe it wasn't possible for them to keep up with demand. Plus it's a luxury item to me, it's not 'needed'.10-07-2013 11:16 AM
- I like the hype, & challenge of finding the device that I am looking for, fortunately for me Space Grey was the color I was looking for so it wasn't too difficult to find. Great for Apple that they are selling so many devices, great for us that Apple is turning a profit so they can make more iGoodies for us in the future.10-07-2013 11:29 AM
- I like the hype, & challenge of finding the device that I am looking for, fortunately for me Space Grey was the color I was looking for so it wasn't too difficult to find. Great for Apple that they are selling so many devices, great for us that Apple is turning a profit so they can make more iGoodies for us in the future.10-07-2013 11:36 AM
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