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    Default I was going to come back to iPhone, but after today I'm re- thinking that !!!

    No I'm not a troll (see my past postings for proof)

    I am just so frustrated with Apple after today,,,,, today was just another example of how lame and non-innovated they have become.

    Yea,,,, great idea Apple,,,, the black iphone 5 IS without doubt the coolest looking phone on the planet so ya do away with it to replace it with gold and gray,,,, good move Apple !!!!

    Yea,,, I get it, the black iphone was prone to nicks so instead of figuring a way to make it nick proof ya just drop your most popular color for silver and gold which will also get nicks on the finish.

    And then after a year of the 5 the incremental upgrades announced today on the 5s are the best you can come up with,,,,, my GS4 and Note 2 have had most of those features for the last year except for the finger print scanner which may or may not end up being a good feature.

    The camera on the 5s is about the only thing I'm holding onto hope for,,,, I've done side by side shots with my GS4 and iPhone 5 and in most cases my GS4 has won,,,, if the 5s camera truly blows away my GS4 then yes I "might" get it in spite of the gold and gray colors.

    Dropping the black, still the same 4" size screen are two main reasons that I might just stick with Android.

    Apple is trying to regain sales from Android and the 5s is the best they can do,,,, wow !!!

    I'm sure some of the Apple fanboys are just fine with the 5s,,,, but for some one like me that uses both iOS and Android I am very much not impressed after today.

    What's next Apple,,,,, hey I got a great idea,,, how bout a non-retina iPad mini 2,,,,, that will be a great move too !!!!!

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    Default Re: I was going to come back to iPhone, but after today I'm re- thinking that !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Davyo View Post
    No I'm not a troll (see my past postings for proof)

    I am just so frustrated with Apple after today,,,,, today was just another example of how lame and non-innovated they have become.

    Yea,,,, great idea Apple,,,, the black iphone 5 IS without doubt the coolest looking phone on the planet so ya do away with it to replace it with gold and gray,,,, good move Apple !!!!

    Yea,,, I get it, the black iphone was prone to nicks so instead of figuring a way to make it nick proof ya just drop your most popular color for silver and gold which will also get nicks on the finish.

    And then after a year of the 5 the incremental upgrades announced today on the 5s are the best you can come up with,,,,, my GS4 and Note 2 have had most of those features for the last year except for the finger print scanner which may or may not end up being a good feature.

    The camera on the 5s is about the only thing I'm holding onto hope for,,,, I've done side by side shots with my GS4 and iPhone 5 and in most cases my GS4 has won,,,, if the 5s camera truly blows away my GS4 then yes I "might" get it in spite of the gold and gray colors.

    Dropping the black, still the same 4" size screen are two main reasons that I might just stick with Android.

    Apple is trying to regain sales from Android and the 5s is the best they can do,,,, wow !!!

    I'm sure some of the Apple fanboys are just fine with the 5s,,,, but for some one like me that uses both iOS and Android I am very much not impressed after today.

    What's next Apple,,,,, hey I got a great idea,,, how bout a non-retina iPad mini 2,,,,, that will be a great move too !!!!!

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    Hey buddy.

    I understand your frustration. I've been an apple fan boy since the iPhone 3G.
    Yes after seeing today's presentation, I wasn't to impressed.
    Subtle features like a finger print scanner, new A7 chip and a few features with the camera isn't all that amazing.

    I just feel after Steve jobs passed, there innovation hasn't evolved that much.
    But in seeing your side , I'm also happy with the slight adjustment in a processor.
    Havering a 64 bit phone with PC console graphics caught my attention.
    That the main reason why I'm deciding to get it although I have the iPhone 5.

    What would you of wanted from the presentation to make you happy?

    Android is innovative and yes they have done things before apple. Only difference is APPLE FOCUSES ON QUALITY over specifications.
    They want there product to chiseled to the consumer.
    It's like a Ferrari. They haven't changed how it looks like for years but it's a dam sexy car.


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    Default Re: I was going to come back to iPhone, but after today I'm re- thinking that !!!

    First off I don't know what else people want from this launch! With all the rumors and speculation for the past few months we knew there wasn't going to be a screen increase, nothing super crazy. The only thing again I see people b1tching about is the bigger screen.

    The S class updates have always been an improvement on the design from the previous year and always will be.

    Next year I'm sure we'll get the bigger screen but for now I'm pretty happy with the 5S and will be getting it.


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    Most are underestimating the upgrades in the 5s, and are not giving credit to some serious improvements and innovations. Most people are focused on the screen, and without a bigger screen it won't be seen as innovative or even new. That is short sighted. The processor is the first 64-bit of its type, leap frogging ARM and partners who are only in prototype mode. The M7 chip opens up a lot of possibilities for a hot market for devices like the jawbone up and fitbit. The camera should be quite a sizeable image quality and low light performance upgrade, but we will see after testing. The finger print reader is quite innovative and opens up a lot of corporate acceptance for security reasons. Losing a device should present less risk if the use of the reader can be enforced by admins. I want to see the battery life for sure, and it better be longer, quite a bit longer.

    Overall, I think the 5s is a nice upgrade. Many will disagree and say they don't innovate. I disagree. When you combine iOS 7 and the hardware, I think there are quite a few improvements in there. Maybe not a lot more than a Samsung announcement, but on par for sure. Those that say Apple does not innovate, but claim Samsung and others do, are just haters. The sales results will tell.

    How much can we really expect going forward an on annual upgrade path in terms of annual innovation? Innovation rarely comes linear in my experience. It comes in spurts. I think the 5s is targeted at 4 and 4s owners, not necessarily 5 owners. To me the only two things not on par and better that other phones out there are the screen size and the scratch factor for the aluminum. Those two need addressed in the 6, and I agree it would have been great if they would have addressed this this round. Everything else to me make this the best phone on the market, still.
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    Default Re: I was going to come back to iPhone, but after today I'm re- thinking that !!!

    I was underwhelmed by the keynote today...but you know, hours after I had a chance to sit and process it, I was being an ***** for being underwhelmed, and here are the reasons why...

    - The 5S is a refresh device, and like the other "S" designated models, it implements new features, not new design...this coming iPhone does that in spades.
    - People need to look up the word "innovate" before they use it ever again...you'll understand why it sounds asinine to say when referencing the new iPhone.
    - The finger print scanner is a cool a$$, high tech, freakin' AWESOME feature...and while it wasn't a deal breaker for me, just think about it for a minute, that's on our PHONE! lol!

    ...and I think the biggest thing that drew me back was the fact that we are not only getting this phone, but we're getting iOS 7. You're now going to ask "So, all of the iPhone's are getting iOS 7, you shouldn't consider that a feature to the new iPhone's, right?", and my answer is a resounding YES, you SHOULD consider it a feature because it IS a feature...we just so happen to be lucky enough to have a company like Apple behind it that will take the operating system, and make it ripple across ALL of their devices for continuity and ease of function between them all.

    We have a brand new (and sexy I might add) iPhone with a brand new operating system, some sci-fi tech in it that we've only been dreaming about for the last decade...and in the end, it'll still be the reliable, easy to use, beautiful device we've grown accustom to.

    So there it is...we have the best iPhone ever made coming in about a week and a half, and I'm stoked!
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    I agree on the innovation point. People think it means inventing, and it does not. It means:

    - the introduction of something new
    - a new idea, method, or device : novelty
    - In technology, an improvement to something already existing
    - (the act of making) a change or a new arrangement
    - the application of new solutions that meet new requirements, inarticulate needs, or existing market needs

    I can be something new or a new invention, but it is often just doing something better or combining things in a new way that improves.
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    Default Re: I was going to come back to iPhone, but after today I'm re- thinking that !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    I was underwhelmed by the keynote today...but you know, hours after I had a chance to sit and process it, I was being an ***** for being underwhelmed, and here are the reasons why...

    - The 5S is a refresh device, and like the other "S" designated models, it implements new features, not new design...this coming iPhone does that in spades.
    - People need to look up the word "innovate" before they use it ever again...you'll understand why it sounds asinine to say when referencing the new iPhone.
    - The finger print scanner is a cool a$$, high tech, freakin' AWESOME feature...and while it wasn't a deal breaker for me, just think about it for a minute, that's on our PHONE! lol!

    ...and I think the biggest thing that drew me back was the fact that we are not only getting this phone, but we're getting iOS 7. You're now going to ask "So, all of the iPhone's are getting iOS 7, you shouldn't consider that a feature to the new iPhone's, right?", and my answer is a resounding YES, you SHOULD consider it a feature because it IS a feature...we just so happen to be lucky enough to have a company like Apple behind it that will take the operating system, and make it ripple across ALL of their devices for continuity and ease of function between them all.

    We have a brand new (and sexy I might add) iPhone with a brand new operating system, some sci-fi tech in it that we've only been dreaming about for the last decade...and in the end, it'll still be the reliable, easy to use, beautiful device we've grown accustom to.

    So there it is...we have the best iPhone ever made coming in about a week and a half, and I'm stoked!
    Awesome post Sean! The main thing I was underwhelmed about was no live feed LOL.

    I'm stoked also, already have my 5 listed LOL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    I was underwhelmed by the keynote today...but you know, hours after I had a chance to sit and process it, I was being an ***** for being underwhelmed, and here are the reasons why...

    - The 5S is a refresh device, and like the other "S" designated models, it implements new features, not new design...this coming iPhone does that in spades.
    - People need to look up the word "innovate" before they use it ever again...you'll understand why it sounds asinine to say when referencing the new iPhone.
    - The finger print scanner is a cool a$$, high tech, freakin' AWESOME feature...and while it wasn't a deal breaker for me, just think about it for a minute, that's on our PHONE! lol!

    ...and I think the biggest thing that drew me back was the fact that we are not only getting this phone, but we're getting iOS 7. You're now going to ask "So, all of the iPhone's are getting iOS 7, you shouldn't consider that a feature to the new iPhone's, right?", and my answer is a resounding YES, you SHOULD consider it a feature because it IS a feature...we just so happen to be lucky enough to have a company like Apple behind it that will take the operating system, and make it ripple across ALL of their devices for continuity and ease of function between them all.

    We have a brand new (and sexy I might add) iPhone with a brand new operating system, some sci-fi tech in it that we've only been dreaming about for the last decade...and in the end, it'll still be the reliable, easy to use, beautiful device we've grown accustom to.

    So there it is...we have the best iPhone ever made coming in about a week and a half, and I'm stoked!
    The only bad part of posting behind Sean is whatever you have to say makes things tough unless you are as spot on as him. What I am saying is he is a hard act to follow and I just finished watching the entire keynote for the second time today to clarify some posts and threads other members asked and it was that important to me to get my own questions answered but try and help with theirs.

    I am as stoked as Sean and in my way as i did with my 4S I will wait until the new phone is in public hands for a month, goes through it at least one routine OS bug fix, listen intently to their and take it in and with that and being satisfied I will go to my local Apple store and but a Space gray 32GB. With that knowing i have an upgrade and 22 months of flawless 4S use and a new OS coming out, I will have a month to use the new OS on my 4S to learn what I don't and do but the bottom line as always I can say thank you Sean for the commentary and nuf said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguarr40 View Post
    The only bad part of posting behind Sean is whatever you have to say makes things tough unless you are as spot on as him. What I am saying is he is a hard act to follow and I just finished watching the entire keynote for the second time today to clarify some posts and threads other members asked and it was that important to me to get my own questions answered but try and help with theirs.

    I am as stoked as Sean and in my way as i did with my 4S I will wait until the new phone is in public hands for a month, goes through it at least one routine OS bug fix, listen intently to their and take it in and with that and being satisfied I will go to my local Apple store and but a Space gray 32GB. With that knowing i have an upgrade and 22 months of flawless 4S use and a new OS coming out, I will have a month to use the new OS on my 4S to learn what I don't and do but the bottom line as always I can say thank you Sean for the commentary and nuf said.
    Haha yeah Sean likes to hog the spotlight.


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    And don't forget THE 64-BIT PROCESSOR IN A 7.6(?)MM CASING, the improved camera IN THE SAME CASING, the fingerprint scanner IN THE SAME CASING, the secondary processing chip IN THE SAME CASING, but who cares it doesn't matter at all, it doesn't even matter that it has SLIGHTLY BETTER BATTERY LIFE THAN THE IPHONE 5. Yes, I was yelling a bit, no I'm not an Apple fanboy, I'm a tech fanboy, I like Blackberry, Android and Windows Phone too. But how many of the others can do what Apple just need in terms of power, security, keep it in the same housing but allow the battery to work more efficiently. That my friends is innovation, that my friends is what separates Apple from the pack.


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    Default Re: I was going to come back to iPhone, but after today I'm re- thinking that !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguarr40 View Post
    The only bad part of posting behind Sean is whatever you have to say makes things tough unless you are as spot on as him. What I am saying is he is a hard act to follow and I just finished watching the entire keynote for the second time today to clarify some posts and threads other members asked and it was that important to me to get my own questions answered but try and help with theirs.

    I am as stoked as Sean and in my way as i did with my 4S I will wait until the new phone is in public hands for a month, goes through it at least one routine OS bug fix, listen intently to their and take it in and with that and being satisfied I will go to my local Apple store and but a Space gray 32GB. With that knowing i have an upgrade and 22 months of flawless 4S use and a new OS coming out, I will have a month to use the new OS on my 4S to learn what I don't and do but the bottom line as always I can say thank you Sean for the commentary and nuf said.

    I agreed. I always wait about a month or two to get the bugs and defected devices fixed
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    Quote Originally Posted by swarlos View Post
    Haha yeah Sean likes to hog the spotlight.


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    No way man, I just like to rally the troops...and you know, even I was a bit off today, but I realized something..."hype" comes in two ways, one from the legitimate source, and one from those expecting it, and within that, the things that people start assuming become rumors, and rumors become, at times, even more qualified because of the volume and frequency of them. Even with no validity at all to the stuff, it almost becomes REAL...the bigger iPhone, the wireless charging system, the NFC functionality, the features found on other phones...but all of this, it's never been what the Apple iPhone has been about.

    I almost got caught up in it, but caught myself...I think it happened with this version more than others because how different the iPhone is from everything on the market now.
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    I waited so long for an all black iPhone. When the black/slate came out, I was sold right away! I'm afraid we might have seen the last of the black/slate iPhone. The hell I care about a gold iPhone. Might as well get gold grill in your mouth if you have the gold iPhone! I wasn't planning to upgrade but I'm just disappointed that I may not see a real black iPhone 6 when I upgrade next year. Then again who knows, iPhone 6 might finally bring the rumored liquid metal! I still think it's a great update for those getting the 5S. I'm not disappointed by the new features. It's the elimination of the black/slate!!!
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    Make no mistake. This is actually a good upgrade from the 5 in terms of an x to xs upgrade. The camera is better. The touch ID is something people will actually use as opposed to something like Siri which has never lived up to its potential. 64bit is a big deal. Of course you have to take in consideration that the tech press pretty much spoils everything for these big releases. You know what's coming so when the announcement is official, it's natural to be underwhelmed. I'm not blown away by the 5S by any means but I think it's a nice upgrade and competitive with any phone currently on the market or ones that will be by the end of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    No way man, I just like to rally the troops...and you know, even I was a bit off today, but I realized something..."hype" comes in two ways, one from the legitimate source, and one from those expecting it, and within that, the things that people start assuming become rumors, and rumors become, at times, even more qualified because of the volume and frequency of them. Even with no validity at all to the stuff, it almost becomes REAL...the bigger iPhone, the wireless charging system, the NFC functionality, the features found on other phones...but all of this, it's never been what the Apple iPhone has been about.

    I almost got caught up in it, but caught myself...I think it happened with this version more than others because how different the iPhone is from everything on the market now.
    LOL I was just joshing ya!

    But I can see that for many users as well because we see all these other devices coming out with these crazy Specs and seemingly futuristic features and if Apple doesn't follow suit then then the not innovating card is pulled.

    Clearly though Apple innovated their arses off today to the point of trumping every Android device out there today without increasing the screen size.


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    too many think of "innovate" as something that apple would rightly see as "featuritis."

    Samsung doesn't innovate. they find every gimmick they can get their hands on and cram it into the phone.

    innovating is carefully making and improving the phone, taking thought to every detail, and how they all relate and add to useability, and with a vision and purpose, not tossing in everything but the kitchen sink and seeing what sticks.

    samsung phones seem cluttered to me. Its like having a remote control with 300 buttons and you can't even figure out how to turn the TV on. LOL

    now if you get that but just want to be utterly wowed every year, that's simply not possible. the original iphone was such an amazing improvement and people want that same wow factor every year. technology doesn't work that way. maybe in a few years apple will invent cancer curing iphones that can create holograms, but until then expect incremental improvements each year. the 6 will probably be faster with NFC and a bigger screen, and a few other improvements. and people will gripe because its not innovative enough.

    Its like how people want a relationship to be as exciting as the honeymoon and life just don't work that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Flud View Post
    too many think of "innovate" as something that apple would rightly see as "featuritis."

    Samsung doesn't innovate. they find every gimmick they can get their hands on and cram it into the phone.

    innovating is carefully making and improving the phone, taking thought to every detail, and how they all relate and add to useability, and with a vision and purpose, not tossing in everything but the kitchen sink and seeing what sticks.

    samsung phones seem cluttered to me. Its like having a remote control with 300 buttons and you can't even figure out how to turn the TV on. LOL

    now if you get that but just want to be utterly wowed every year, that's simply not possible. the original iphone was such an amazing improvement and people want that same wow factor every year. technology doesn't work that way. maybe in a few years apple will invent cancer curing iphones that can create holograms, but until then expect incremental improvements each year. the 6 will probably be faster with NFC and a bigger screen, and a few other improvements. and people will gripe because its not innovative enough.

    Its like how people want a relationship to be as exciting as the honeymoon and life just don't work that way.
    The definition of innovate is "to introduce something new; make changes in anything established." I'm no rocket surgeon, but this definition seems to support that Apple did indeed "innovate" with the 5s.
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    Default Re: I was going to come back to iPhone, but after today I'm re- thinking that !!!

    Ike Sean, I've more time to reflect on it and its definitely upgrade time. I think bottom line is this. Apple makes hardware for its software. The 5s is built for iOS 7. This represents the best experience apple can give u.

    On the other hand my iPhone 5 was built for iOS6. I can put iOS 7 on it. But it will be slower. Not as optimized. And running 32 bit when the os is more capable. I wouldn't do this on the desktop. So I won't settle for those limitations here either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardfan View Post
    Ike Sean, I've more time to reflect on it and its definitely upgrade time. I think bottom line is this. Apple makes hardware for its software. The 5s is built for iOS 7. This represents the best experience apple can give u.

    On the other hand my iPhone 5 was built for iOS6. I can put iOS 7 on it. But it will be slower. Not as optimized. And running 32 bit when the os is more capable. I wouldn't do this on the desktop. So I won't settle for those limitations here either.
    Idk, if the 5c, is the same as the 5 and its running iOS 7. Shouldn't be and issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metllicamilitia View Post
    And don't forget THE 64-BIT PROCESSOR IN A 7.6(?)MM CASING, the improved camera IN THE SAME CASING, the fingerprint scanner IN THE SAME CASING, the secondary processing chip IN THE SAME CASING, but who cares it doesn't matter at all, it doesn't even matter that it has SLIGHTLY BETTER BATTERY LIFE THAN THE IPHONE 5. Yes, I was yelling a bit, no I'm not an Apple fanboy, I'm a tech fanboy, I like Blackberry, Android and Windows Phone too. But how many of the others can do what Apple just need in terms of power, security, keep it in the same housing but allow the battery to work more efficiently. That my friends is innovation, that my friends is what separates Apple from the pack.


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    Your " SAME CASING" points are a bit confussing to me,,,,,,,Didn't Samsung do the sames things with the Galaxy and Note's,,,,,,,,, faster inards, improved cameras, more features and bigger screens while at the same time keeping their phones the same size and in most cases reducing the actual size of their phones.

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    For some reason "innovate" seems to have become synonymous with "whack a massive screen on it and hope for the best". If you scroll through most of the threads the vast majority of "not innovating" ones cite the screen size as the fault. If everyone had their way we'd all be wandering about trying to take calls on a 27" iMac like some kind of Dom Jolly sketch.

    It might not look very flashy on the outside but the changes on the inside are pretty huge. To those saying the 5 was/is fast enough, don't forget most will be taking these out on a 2 year contract. Who knows what developers are going to want to run on it 2 years from now
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    As the OP of this thread I will add that in spite of my negative feelings about the incremental upgrades from the 5 to the 5s that took Apple a year to do, I still might have an interest in getting the 5s for the camera alone.

    I use my GS4 as my main shooter and camera usage is one of my top priorities with a phone,,,, in my side by side testings, GS4 vs iphone 5 my GS4 was almost always the clear winner for picture quality,,,, if the 5s camera blows away the iphone 5 and my GS4 then I might get the 5s in spite of not being very excited about anything else the 5s has to offer.

    But then I will have to figure out which crappy color to get since Apple discontinued the black,,,,, that's one thing that Apple blew everything else away on the planet away with,,,,, the black iphone 5 was the best looking phone ever made in the history of phone making and now their dropping the black.

    Gold, gray or white,,,, I might have to decide which color makes me the least sick if the camera rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davyo View Post
    No I'm not a troll (see my past postings for proof)

    I am just so frustrated with Apple after today,,,,, today was just another example of how lame and non-innovated they have become.

    Yea,,,, great idea Apple,,,, the black iphone 5 IS without doubt the coolest looking phone on the planet so ya do away with it to replace it with gold and gray,,,, good move Apple !!!!

    Yea,,, I get it, the black iphone was prone to nicks so instead of figuring a way to make it nick proof ya just drop your most popular color for silver and gold which will also get nicks on the finish.

    And then after a year of the 5 the incremental upgrades announced today on the 5s are the best you can come up with,,,,, my GS4 and Note 2 have had most of those features for the last year except for the finger print scanner which may or may not end up being a good feature.

    The camera on the 5s is about the only thing I'm holding onto hope for,,,, I've done side by side shots with my GS4 and iPhone 5 and in most cases my GS4 has won,,,, if the 5s camera truly blows away my GS4 then yes I "might" get it in spite of the gold and gray colors.

    Dropping the black, still the same 4" size screen are two main reasons that I might just stick with Android.

    Apple is trying to regain sales from Android and the 5s is the best they can do,,,, wow !!!

    I'm sure some of the Apple fanboys are just fine with the 5s,,,, but for some one like me that uses both iOS and Android I am very much not impressed after today.

    What's next Apple,,,,, hey I got a great idea,,, how bout a non-retina iPad mini 2,,,,, that will be a great move too !!!!!

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    It's like people need smoke and BIG ANNOUNCEMENT to make them happy, you don't know what you're talking about. The iPhone 5S is the best smartphone on the market, and every aspect of it has been think and re-think so if you don't like it, you don't like cars like bentley, beautiful but people who don't know thoses cars, never watch them but they cost 300 000$ and goes faster than a ferrari...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnee View Post
    For some reason "innovate" seems to have become synonymous with "whack a massive screen on it and hope for the best". If you scroll through most of the threads the vast majority of "not innovating" ones cite the screen size as the fault. If everyone had their way we'd all be wandering about trying to take calls on a 27" iMac like some kind of Dom Jolly sketch.

    It might not look very flashy on the outside but the changes on the inside are pretty huge. To those saying the 5 was/is fast enough, don't forget most will be taking these out on a 2 year contract. Who knows what developers are going to want to run on it 2 years from now
    The vast majority of threads you read say that screen size equals innovation,,,,, I read all the same threads here to and what they say is Apple has lost their innovations and we would also like to have a bigger than 4" screen size.

    As far as you saying if everyone had their way we would all be walking around with 27" screens,,, your also wrong on that as well,,,,, with every poll taken the most wanted screen size is anywhere between 4.5 and 5",,,,, 4" for a smart phone really is a bit on the small side.

    People vote with their dollars and while Apple is still top dog in some markets the bigger screen sized phones are catching up very quickly to Apple and in some markets beating out Apple in sales,,,,, Apple sticking with their one screen size fits all mentality has greatly hurt their bottom line.

    If you look thru the threads on the Android forum you will find almost everyone over there owned iPhones and the top reason they jumped the Apple ship was not because of lack of innovation but rather lack of screen real estate.

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