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    Everyone I think would agree that you pay a premium for Apple computers when compared to PC's. It's the old argument that you are buying a BMW instead of a Toyota for a computer.

    Why isn't that the case for the phones? It seems all of the high-end phones are the same price off contract. Are we still not getting a BMW of a phone or are the other brands just really overpriced?

    Us Apple fans accept that we pay a premium for their computers but why not their phones?
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    That's ridiculous.
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    Honestly, the "premium" isn't really there (not as much anyways) for the computers anymore. You can get an entry Macbook Pro for $999 new, that was unheard of even 2-3 years ago. At $649 starting, I'd say it's priced pretty much where it needs to be just comparing it to the other products in the lineup (iPod Touch and iPad).
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    Honestly, the "premium" isn't really there (not as much anyways) for the computers anymore. You can get an entry Macbook Pro for $999 new, that was unheard of even 2-3 years ago. At $649 starting, I'd say it's priced pretty much where it needs to be just comparing it to the other products in the lineup (iPod Touch and iPad).
    Wow! I can't find a current MBP 15" for under $1,500 non retina.

    Do tell where interested in shopping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanHRCC View Post
    Honestly, the "premium" isn't really there (not as much anyways) for the computers anymore. You can get an entry Macbook Pro for $999 new, that was unheard of even 2-3 years ago. At $649 starting, I'd say it's priced pretty much where it needs to be just comparing it to the other products in the lineup (iPod Touch and iPad).
    Thanks. Moreover, to get the same specs than what Mac or Macbook offers, you still have to pay a fair amount of money PC wise. And to get the same processing speed, you have to get better specs... Any leftover money on the Mac prices could be imparted to quality materials used more than any premium... I mean, no wonder an Asus laptop with similar specs than a macbook air costs like 300$ less and is always on bargain, when you look at the built!
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    Wow! I can't find a current MBP 15" for under $1,500 non retina.

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    You're not going to find the retina display model for that price (yet), but i bet the 13" is close to it upon release, and after a year or two of updates, you'll be in that ballpark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbaptista View Post
    Wow! I can't find a current MBP 15" for under $1,500 non retina.

    Do tell where interested in shopping.

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    He means the Mac Air 11 inch, you can also get an entry level MPB 13 inch for 1199.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbaptista View Post
    Everyone I think would agree that you pay a premium for Apple computers when compared to PC's. It's the old argument that you are buying a BMW instead of a Toyota for a computer.

    Why isn't that the case for the phones? It seems all of the high-end phones are the same price off contract. Are we still not getting a BMW of a phone or are the other brands just really overpriced?



    Us Apple fans accept that we pay a premium for their computers but why not their phones?

    People get into business to offer a product and/or service at a profit. The bonus is to maximize those profits without hurting sales. Apple is the most successful company in the world. That tells me that whatever it is doing in regard to marketing & promotions, customer service and sales is working. Too many people are still stuck on the "I have an Apple product so I'm better than you" image thing, in my opinion, but it is what is is i guess. Anyway, to answer your question...No, I do not think the price is too low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkcable View Post
    He means the Mac Air 11 inch, you can also get an entry level MPB 13 inch for 1199.
    Nope, i mean a macbook pro. You can get the i5 13" for $999 if you shop around the net. They had one of the 15" models for $1,199 last week at a local store called micro center.
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    People get into business to offer a product and/or service at a profit. The bonus is to maximize those profits without hurting sales. Apple is the most successful company in the world. That tells me that whatever it is doing in regard to marketing & promotions, customer service and sales is working. Too many people are still stuck on the "I have an Apple product so I'm better than you" image thing, in my opinion, but it is what is is i guess. Anyway, to answer your question...No, I do not think the price is too low.
    I think "I have an Apple product so I'm better than you" image is long gone. I mean every where I look there is an iPhone is someones hand. Even the school kids are rocking iPhones. It has become a common staple among smart phones..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbaptista View Post
    I think "I have an Apple product so I'm better than you" image is long gone. I mean every where I look there is an iPhone is someones hand. Even the school kids are rocking iPhones. It has become a common staple among smart phones..
    I see iPhones everywhere too, and you're right, it has become a common staple among smartphones, so why the question in regard to not paying a premium for the iPhone?
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    Just curious as to why a premium on one product line but not the other? Just think if the premium did not exist and the computers where also common staples among computers.

    That would be awesome!!!

    The cost of Apple computers has always been the biggest hurdle for most consumers I think..
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    If they start asking for more money then you would find more people leaving to go to alternative devices which would in turn lead to developers creating less for the app store. I don't know why you feel that the iPhone needs to only be for the wealthy, if you really want to be different then get a blackberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbaptista View Post
    I think "I have an Apple product so I'm better than you" image is long gone. I mean every where I look there is an iPhone is someones hand. Even the school kids are rocking iPhones. It has become a common staple among smart phones..
    Hmm... I've been using Macs for about 4 years now... and I've owned several different models... I NEVER thought "I'm better than you because I use a Mac". Not sure it ever existed in the context you are trying to imply. They are better machines, IMHO, because they truly do "just work"... but just because they are arguably the best machine doesn't mean the owner/user is any better than any one else. Sounds more like "sour grapes" than anything. Just because Apple stuff is cool, well designed and it "just works" doesn't mean they should come with an overly inflated price tag. That goes for phones as well as computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbaptista View Post
    Just curious as to why a premium on one product line but not the other? Just think if the premium did not exist and the computers where also common staples among computers.

    That would be awesome!!!

    The cost of Apple computers has always been the biggest hurdle for most consumers I think..
    I really don't see a "premium" on their computers. They use better components than the $499 HP, Compaq, Gateway or Dell computers. If you find any of those brands using higher quality components, you are going to see a comparable price bump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbaptista View Post
    Just curious as to why a premium on one product line but not the other? Just think if the premium did not exist and the computers where also common staples among computers.

    That would be awesome!!!

    The cost of Apple computers has always been the biggest hurdle for most consumers I think..
    Take notice as to when Apple computers started to decrease in price and lose this "premium" you keep referring to...it was around the time that they released the iPhone. Now why do you think that was the case? Pretty simple economics really, Apple became much more popular following the iPhone release, not just in the cellular phone world, but across the entire spectrum...so with popularity comes demand, and with demand comes higher profit, which means the company can start charging less for their products because they are moving more. There's no secret to why the pricing dropped across the board, just simple economics. This happened with all of the products too, not just the computers.

    And then you're assuming that the computers they sell are some how similar to computers on the market that are cheaper. The Macbook's may share some pieces with cheaper PC's, but there are a lot of things included in them that call for that "premium" pricing (though to me, premium pricing is hardly what is asked for their computer line).
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    Hmm... I've been using Macs for about 4 years now... and I've owned several different models... I NEVER thought "I'm better than you because I use a Mac". Not sure it ever existed in the context you are trying to imply. They are better machines, IMHO, because they truly do "just work"... but just because they are arguably the best machine doesn't mean the owner/user is any better than any one else. Sounds more like "sour grapes" than anything. Just because Apple stuff is cool, well designed and it "just works" doesn't mean they should come with an overly inflated price tag. That goes for phones as well as computers.

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    I really don't see a "premium" on their computers. They use better components than the $499 HP, Compaq, Gateway or Dell computers. If you find any of those brands using higher quality components, you are going to see a comparable price bump.
    Now I'm confused. Doesn't the iPhone 5 have better components than the competing brands?
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    What???

    Why buy a product if it doesn't make me better than everyone else. I mean, I'm certainly not getting it because I use it daily at work and at leisure, and because I decided that product was the most fit to meet my needs! In what world are we living, I'm asking you...

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    Now I'm confused. Doesn't the iPhone 5 have better components than the competing brands?
    Well most of the components used on a Note or a GSIII or an Atrix are not cheap neither! And he was referring to brands like Compaq, HP, Dell...
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    My question is simple..

    Is the iPhone priced right and other competing products are using crappy components and ripping off the masses?

    or

    are competing products using similar components that are not inferior to the iPhone?
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    The iPhone is priced just right for Apple's product line up and current marketing plan.

    Who cares what other companies are doing? That's like asking why BMW doesn't charge more for the entry level 3series when it offers some better features (or fit and finish) than a similarly priced Lexus or Infiniti. Who cares? People are buying them, Apple is making scrooge mcduck sized money bin amounts of money. Apple has the iPhone priced perfectly in all facets...
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    The iPhone is priced just right for Apple's product line up and current marketing plan.

    Who cares what other companies are doing? That's like asking why BMW doesn't charge more for the entry level 3series when it offers some better features (or fit and finish) than a similarly priced Lexus or Infiniti. Who cares? People are buying them, Apple is making scrooge mcduck sized money bin amounts of money. Apple has the iPhone priced perfectly in all facets...
    I would agree, i think the other phones on the market are a little over priced.

    Similar to the tablet market. All of the competitors have to lower their tablet prices to compete with the iPad.
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    Wow, crazy post. Simple answer No!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbaptista View Post
    I would agree, i think the other phones on the market are a little over priced.

    Similar to the tablet market. All of the competitors have to lower their tablet prices to compete with the iPad.
    I never said other phones were over priced...i think the Galaxy S III is priced just fine for what it is, and honestly, that's really the only other elite level phone on the level of the iPhone anyways (for now) so that's the only one people really need to relate to the iPhone. When the Nokia 920 (or whatever it's called) comes out, I'm sure it will have a similar pricing structure, and it will offer features that the iPhone doesn't have...does that make the iPhone less worthy of the price? Who cares!? If it's selling and making a good profit for the company, it's priced properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbaptista View Post
    Now I'm confused. Doesn't the iPhone 5 have better components than the competing brands?
    Actually there is a much larger disparity between quality/price of components in computers than is true of phones. The low end HPs and Toshibas (and virtually all Compaqs and Gateways) are purely crap... typically either older core2 duo Intel CPUs or AMD CPUs... 3-cell batteries, etc.

    That said, even with phones, there are "junk" models... but the top end stuff (some Samsung and HTC) tend to use higher quality parts like Apple. And since Samsung and HTC make so many different models, they clearly have different levels in the quality of their devices.
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