Jailbroken iPhone users getting locked out of the App Store
The number of apps saying, "This Application Does Not Support Jailbroken Devices" is on the rise. You're just browsing the app store, downloading apps from iTunes and only after you've downloaded the app, you receive this message. Skype does this.
The most recent app being Swamp People, by A&E Television Network. I'm just going to be blunt: I strongly disagree, that developers should be doing that. It's our iPhone and we can do whatever we want with them. You don't get error messages on Windows saying "We do not support computers with dual booted systems or we do not support your modded PC."
I think it's a very dumb decision for developers to make, because the majority of people who use iPhones have them Jailbroken, so that's them losing money and popularity (for the sake of?)
I mean, I probably would have deleted the app after 5 minutes, but now it doesn't even get a chance. I give great reviews. Not only that, but why would they go through the effort? It's Jailbroken, which means that whatever method they're using to detect Jailbroken iPhones can be masked if need be, and if not, there are other ways to get the app.
So, either way it works against them. I just hope that this doesn't catch on. Yes, the incentives for having a Jailbroken iPhone is so great, that it means more to me than your insignificant app.
Again, apps that lock you out because you're Jailbroken, that is very, very stupid. There's no way the app developer could possibly understand the concept of Jailbreaking and what it means for them.
Do you agree or disagree?
Last edited by motoleo; 05-30-2012 at 04:24 PM.
- 05-30-2012, 01:16 PM #2iMore Pro
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I agree with you buddy and who knows where this will go. I've come across a couple and yes Skype is one of them, but it still runs on my phone and iPad, but with no push notifications. Like you say its there loss!
- 05-30-2012, 01:27 PM #3
- 05-30-2012, 01:29 PM #4
For the most part, I agree that they shouldn't make apps unusable on jailbroken devices. But there are two
Pirating and copyrighted material.
I can't blame developers for being upset that their apps get pirated and people get them for free on
jailbroken devices. This is their way of fighting back.
Like the Time Warner app doesn't work on jailbroken devices. Because they're worried about people
with jailbroken devices somehow copying copyrighted material and spreading it for free.
It's a two-way street here.
These days, you have to have a jailbroken iPhone if you truly want to take advantage of the device. The kinds of developers that are making these unusable apps are not real developers.
If I had an app, I wouldn't mind it becoming pirated, that's one of the best ways to become popular.
The war is on, it's really on.
Last edited by motoleo; 05-30-2012 at 01:36 PM.
- 05-30-2012, 01:35 PM #6
And if they're in it for the money, well, locking out 3/4 of your users from ever seeing it at all, is a fast track on the "losing money" route.
Now, they just made people mad for wasting their time downloading the app, when it should have been the #1 descriptor: You cannot use our app.
What do they want us to do? Go back to using normal iPhones? Never.
Last edited by motoleo; 05-30-2012 at 01:43 PM.
- 05-30-2012, 01:55 PM #8
- 05-30-2012, 01:57 PM #9iMore Pro
- 707 Posts
What needs to happen is stuff like installous and xsellize need to be taken out. To be honest I can't believe they get away with what they do.
Someone please explain to me how they do get away with BLATANTLY pirating software, etc. They don't even sell it, so what is in it for them. I need educating here??
- 05-30-2012, 02:01 PM #10
- 05-30-2012, 02:03 PM #11
I would also disagree with your statement " the majority of people who use iPhones have them Jailbroken". I would doubt that even the majority on the iMore forums are jailbroken... and that discounts the millions of users who just buy the phone and "use" it...
It does, however seem somewhat short-sighted on the part of the developers to exclude a portion of their potential customers... then again, perhaps they've encountered support issues with jailbroken phones. You have to realize that the process of jailbreaking does exploit a security vulnerability and does, in fact. replace a portion of Apple's code with new code... that said, it's possible that some apps WON'T work with a jailbroken phone...
Just one man's opinion.
- 05-30-2012, 02:03 PM #12
You sound a bit entitled. It is your phone. You can do what you want with it. But it's the dev's app. He/she can do whatever they want with it as well. "Wasting time" downloading it is less valuable than the time a dev puts into creating an app only to have it pirated, thus taking money out of their pocket.
- 05-30-2012, 02:07 PM #13
- 05-30-2012, 02:07 PM #14
And the whole issue of piracy is valid. Piracy is theft... and as such is wrong, and the discussion of it is taboo here... but suffice it to say that the developer can't feed his family with "popular"...
- 05-30-2012, 02:16 PM #15And the whole issue of piracy is valid. Piracy is theft... and as such is wrong, and the discussion of it is taboo here... but suffice it to say that the developer can't feed his family with "popular"...
Just Me, D
(Tapatalk - iPhone 4S)
A single weekend.
Jailbreaking, however, is not synonymous with piracy. You have to look for Installous.
Last edited by motoleo; 05-30-2012 at 02:25 PM.
- 05-30-2012, 02:22 PM #17
It's enough phones for it to be an issue.
I don't always jailbreak my Apple devices, but when I do, I don't like being locked out of the app store and not having the ability to spend my 30-40 seconds with an app that I will soon delete. I like to at least have the luxury of doing that.
Really, it's a matter of preventing this sort of thing from catching on.
- 05-30-2012, 02:30 PM #19
- 05-30-2012, 02:31 PM #20
- 05-30-2012, 02:38 PM #21
However, you have still not addressed my question of whether or not the software developer is also free to do as he/she chooses with their software - i.e., block is from jailbroken devices... Yes ro no?
Last edited by Fausty82; 05-30-2012 at 03:09 PM.
- 05-30-2012, 02:49 PM #22
Just Me, D
(Tapatalk - iPhone 4S)
But the point you made that the phone has to be Jailbroken to pirate apps is not valid. This shows just how little you know about Jailbreaking. You have just condensed it into, Jailbreak = Free Apps.
The clue's in the title. Jailbreaking enables the user to have flexibllity and customize their iPhone to their liking. You get advantages different from a normal iPhone, such as full screen for Safari, saving battery life, fixing screen rotation issues, and not having the ability to hide Newstand, the screen rotation issues, being is inherent in normal iPhones.
This "Installous" doesn't come with the Jailbreak, you have to actively search for where to find it. You don't just automatically have access to free apps.
But actively trying to make Jailbreaking look bad, by saying that it's all about piracy, and locking Jailbroken devices out of the app store and penalizing people form simply trying your app simply because their device is Jailbroken is not OK.
Most people don't know what to think about it because if they have never heard of Installous, they are going to wonder what is wrong with the developer who decided to lock out their own app to a portion of iPhone users.
We really don't care because apps are a dime a dozen. Good developers wouldn't do something like this.
Last edited by motoleo; 05-30-2012 at 03:14 PM.
- 05-30-2012, 03:08 PM #24
- 05-30-2012, 03:20 PM #25
I have not tried to make jailbreaking "look bad"... I have simply pointed out that the majority of IOS users are not jailbroken, as you have stated... and that SOME of the people who jailbreak do so with the intent of finding pirated software. And jailbreaking does make the process of pirating easier... and as I said earlier, I do know several who have done the JB just for that reason.
I also know many who have jailbroken simply for the ability to customize their device - and there is nothing wrong with that, IMO.
Just don't come in here whining because you can't get some software from the iOS App Store because the developer has chosen (for whatever reason) to block the use of their software on a jailbroken device and start spewing comments like the half of the iOS world is jailbroken and doing so loses the developers tons of cash. I seriously believe that the developers who block JBers from using their apps are (1) within their rights to do so and (2) are aware that their resulting customer base is smaller than it could be.