- 06-03-2012, 09:39 AM #101
I have no problem with jailbreaking, I just don't care to micromanage the phone. I installed sbsettings, never used it. BiteSMS? Didn't like the way it looked. Themes? Nothing special and I removed all of them. Not only that, but I like to be up to date all the time and don't care to wait for a new jailbreak before I update.
- 06-03-2012, 10:56 AM #102
- 06-03-2012, 11:08 AM #103
- 06-03-2012, 11:09 AM #104
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- 06-03-2012, 01:33 PM #105iPhone Newbie
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i have definitely seen it one skype
- 06-03-2012, 04:16 PM #106
- 06-03-2012, 04:31 PM #107
- 06-03-2012, 04:39 PM #108
Nobody really cares for this anonymous Tim Hewitt person, with his questionable stories, his twisted logic, or his dumb apps.
My iPhone is Jailbroken with 0 pirated apps. It runs faster, smoother, and better. I have fullscreen Safari, no aggravating bookmark popup, no newsstand, and I can try something new if I want.
Every application and feature I have ever desired works and will continue to work. That's all I care about.
- 06-03-2012, 04:56 PM #110
- 06-03-2012, 04:56 PM #111
As for the actual topic. I think we can safely conclude that no one will be getting locked out of the iTunes store at any point in the near future.
We all seem collectively content with our iPhones anyway.
- 06-03-2012, 07:36 PM #113iMore Genius
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I am 100% behind jail breaking because I think people should be able to do with their device, whatever the hell they want to do with it!
However developers can do whatever they want with their apps too.
Anybody who is worth their salt can easily work around the "this app does not support jail broken devices"...
I too, questions tims claim that revenue is up significantly just because they block jail broken devices....
And once again, I question how many of these apps are actually out there!!!
I now know of 3, time warners tv app, swamp people, and Skype.
Skype gives me a warning, works perfectly, swamp people works fine after I change name of cydia.app and I know time Warner works with xcon, so when it comes down to it, what are we really even talking about here???
- 06-03-2012, 07:40 PM #114
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As for me, I get the extra perks. I could always switch right back to stock if I wanted to but- not with all these perks.
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- 06-03-2012, 07:51 PM #116
- 06-03-2012, 11:06 PM #117
OK, I apologize if what I will say has been said, but here I go. All I have to say is there is nothing wrong with JailBreaking. Yes I have several JB's devices. Yes I have purchased apps from the App Store. Yes I have purchased apps and tweaks from the Cydia store. No I do not pirate apps. My wifes 4s and my daughter's 3rd gen iPod touch are JB's only for Winterboard and using the Hello Kitty themes for both units. I have an OG iPad on stock 5.1.1 and will stay as such. I have a 3GS that has to be JB'd and unlocked with ultrasn0w due to have been used prior to me buying it with the iPad BaseBand 6.15 which means no stock restore. Now you know who will lose if locking apps become the norm, it's anyone who has to unlock and/or flash their phone for companies that do not officially support the iPhone. Remember, there are over 1 million iPhones alone on T-Mobile's network, and plenty more on others i.e. SIMple Mobile, MetroPCS and any others internationally. I should know I used to run on SIMple Mobile and remember having to JB and then installing the iPad BB to use it. Point being, that the big picture is that people JB their phones not just for costomization, it is also done to be able to use it without having to be stuck to AT&T, Verizon or Sprint. Yes people who use cracked apps and stuff as such, give the whole JB community a bad name. Unfortanetly theres nothing we can do about it at this point. Like they say, what one does illegal, everyone pays. Long Live JailBreaking!!! As long as it is being used for good of course.
- 06-03-2012, 11:30 PM #118
- 06-04-2012, 03:59 AM #119
Because I choose to do what I wish with the phone I own doesn't mean I'm a thief, or that I don't support developers.
I believe the rigid hive thinking of fanboys is totally the opposite of what created Apple, it's pretty funny to think of how just about every new feature that gets added to iOS was copied from jailbreak devs. You enjoy your vanilla device, I'll keep supporting the developers actually innovating for iOS over on Cydia, features in the future you guys will go crazy over when Apple "invents" them.
And you know, it's funny, according to some, only a tiny tiny minority of people even care to jailbreak their phones, yet they are somehow responsible for massive amounts of piracy, which is it? I also wonder if any people dead set against jailbreaking are using windows copies they got from a friend, or actually paid for their copy of photoshop
- 06-04-2012, 04:34 AM #120
I wont be baited into discussing who we are or what our apps are, and whether or not you chose to believe me is up to you.
I have posted before that it's against company policy for any of our employees to identify our company or apps in online forums.
Since blocking jail breakers, our support costs are down and both revenue and profits are up. Since we have also blocked pirates at the same time, revenue for even those early apps that we no longer advertise is also up. We routinely monitor for our apps on pirate websites and our current methods have proven to be effective in blocking the illegal redistribution of our software as well.
It's a data point, from a real development house whose full time business is app development.
You can dismiss it or not, that's up to you.
And what I said about Apple is they will continue to block the security holes that allow jail breaking in the first place, and it would not surprise me to see them eventually prevent jail broken devices from participating in the iUniverse. For those of you who don't get that, that would mean blocking access to iTunes and iCloud at a minimum. They could chose to disable your iOS device altogether if it's jail broken, but I doubt they will ever take that step since its not illegal to jail break and that might get them into legal trouble.
- 06-04-2012, 04:52 AM #121
Piracy is a thing we need to face. Jailbroken or not those who want to use pirated will find one way or another to use software's for free.
But developers too need to understand that, each user's have different preferences. The software I like might not be appreciated by another. So give the user a chance to try out the software for a few days and then let the customer decide to buy it or not. In iOS app, most of the paid ones do not have any option for a trial period. and I'm not planning to spend money for a software, which I might find not upto my liking. So in this case I'll download a pirated one and use it for a few days and buy it, if I like it. But the negative part of this is after using it for free some people might not just buy it, when it's a fully cracked pirate one. So again, it's up to the App Developers to give a few days trial period to the prospective buyer and see if he likes it and buy's it.
I have downloaded 2 pirated software's and used it for a few days. I liked the same and so removed the pirated one and purchased the original ones from apps store. One is Datausage Pro for $1.99 and the other one is TomTom for $99.99. I'll never buy the navigation software for that much value, just to try it out and see. Once paid, I get the benefit to update whenever there is a update from the apps developer.
Also, Apps-developers need to understand, iPhone users are all around the world, not just in USA. So when an app's is free in US users, it needs to be free for users all around the world. I have seen a few soft-wares which is available to US users but not to users in other countries.
Now testing out a few cookery apps, which too, if I like I'll pay for.
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- 06-04-2012, 05:56 AM #122
Apple does not support a trial period for software in the App store. You can carefully limit features, but even that has to be carefully managed if you are going to have a free version and a paid version or in app purchases to extend capabilities.
Trial periods are something developers have been asking for forever.
- 06-04-2012, 06:45 AM #123
You said that it is against company policy to talk about anything, yet you've already been talking about it. And what company would this be exactly? We already don't believe you, and now you just don't want to say anything after you've already brought it up.
But I digress...
- 06-04-2012, 07:12 AM #125
Irish Rose, Apple is now taking the route of the Nokia & BB. These two in their peak time never cared for their customer base. Now Nokia is just a name rather than a major seller in any market. Currently BB has learned the hard way that the customers always have choise, so better keep them happy rather than take a hard *** path.