- 05-31-2012, 09:09 PM #51
I jail broke my iPhone last weekend for SBSettings. I have a Mercury Mariner with the Sync system built in. I hate leaving Bluetooth on all day when I only use it while driving. It's so much simpler to just swipe into my notification center to toggle Bluetooth. Guess I'll be restoring to stock this week.
- 05-31-2012, 10:59 PM #53iMore Genius
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I would like to see a list if all the apps that block you out if your device is jail broken...
Also you can rename the cydia.app as a work around to this issue...
Also, I'm 100% on the app developers side, just like its my phone and I can do what I want, it's their app and they can do what they want.
As far as unprofessional developers, I think Microsoft and time Warner have pretty solid "professional developers"
Apps from companies such as:
A&E Television Network
Basically the same people who invented SOPA. You can get xCon on Cydia before you can get these, if you want these.
I'm not on any side, but I'm for the equal treatment of all iPhone users.
- 05-31-2012, 11:59 PM #55
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- 06-01-2012, 03:57 AM #58iMore Pro
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xCon works by running*apps with anti-jailbreak*protection*in a special contained environment where they cannot detect whether you have a*Jailbroken iDevice*or not. Thus, allowing you to run whatever App Store*application*you wish, without having to worry about whether it has anti-jailbreak*protection or not. The developer has even mentioned that if*you notice an*application*that is not supported by the xCon Cydia tweak to send him an email (email@example.com).
xCon v20 Cydia Tweak: Bypass iOS Apps Jailbreak Detection | iJailbreak.com
Very cool. I might pick this up later if need be.
- 06-01-2012, 08:13 AM #60
We capture whether or not our apps are running on Jailbroken devices and it's less than 1/2 of 1% with millions of downloads.
We deny support to Jailbroken devices, as over the years we have determined that virtually all of the issues we get from users on Jailbroken devices come from their non standard configuration, and have nothing to do with our software.
We cannot afford to support those users.
It's only a matter of time before the iUniverse is blocked as well.
If it is, in fact, what you say. I have a Jailbroken device, as well as a jailed device, and the apps that I use to keep connected, all work perfectly fine.
I'd like to see evidence of these malfunctions with apps that some people have brought up. Jailbreaking doesn't automatically break your device. And when we do get around the blockage, the apps still work.
- 06-01-2012, 09:15 AM #62
I sure would like to know that too, because, here's the thing. Jailbroken users know what they're risking. If the app doesn't work, it doesn't work. What you're trying to do is add a penalty to having a free device to make it seem like jailbreaking causes more problems than it actually does.
You're not even being fair.
It's that the app on one device is censored, and the other one isn't because you decided to take matters into your own hands. Be fair.
You can't afford to support jailbroken users, you can't afford to support jailed users- in many cases they are the same people.
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- 06-01-2012, 09:41 AM #66
here). I am convinced that the changes to the iOS itself, introduced by jailbreaking, is in fact, the biggest part of the issue - and a valid reason for app developers to block access to their apps from jailbroken iOS devices.
- 06-01-2012, 09:57 AM #67
He has stated that there are known issues that only JB devices encounter with his app.
He has made the decision to not support JB devices.
If he chooses to block HIS software from JB devices, he's saving his support staff the trouble of even dealing with what he considers to be non-issues.
If he chooses to block HIS software from JB devices, he is also saving you (and the rest of the JB user base) the headache of dealing with an app that seems to have an issue.
Seems to me like he's actually doing you a favor. And the issue seems pretty much cut and dried to me.
- 06-01-2012, 11:12 AM #68
Just Me, D
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- 06-01-2012, 03:17 PM #73
You don't respect jailbreaking. You don't see it as mainstream or normal, or even moral.
But here's the thing: The fact of the matter is that anything you download to your device can cause it to act up. YOUR app included. So when you've gone through the trouble to make your app half available, half unavailable, (when it doesn't matter anyway, because we're jailbroken) and people tell you that your app is crashing (read the reviews for yourself) what does that tell you?
It tells you one thing. It doesn't matter. You don't want the money of a person with a Jailbroken device. You don't need the money of a person with a jailbroken device. You think you're better than that. What do you think you're trying to prove?
Software is software, jailbreaking is not a virus. It's the same device.
- 06-01-2012, 04:07 PM #75
No one in this discussion has said that jailbreaking a device is wrong, immoral or a crime. Some (including me) have said that it makes some illegal activity more possible, but making something more possible is not, in or of itself wrong. It's just a fact.
At least one developer has said that his experience shows that running his software on a jailbroken device introduces problems that, when all is said and done is the result of the jailbreak. That is to say the software performs poorly (or crashes) on a JB device but not on a pure device. So he chooses not to allow it on a jailbroken device in the first place. It saves EVERYONE the hassle. While the possibility exists that some developers MIGHT write crappy, buggy code, IF they do, they won't be around long. But for those that do write good, clean, tight code... is it wrong for them to not want their reputations soiled by reports of crashes that result SOLELY from being run on a jailbroken device. (Remember, like it or not, jailbreaking CHANGES the underlying OS code, dramatically in some respects.)
That really doesn't seem to be a problem to me. However, you continue to cry about how unfair it is that he has you blocked from running his app(s), and at the same time you say you don't want his software anyway...
At this point there is nothing new to add to the conversation. Is it possible that you're just trying to keep the pot stirred up?