- 08-04-2011, 09:15 AM #51iMore Newbie
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Personally I hope I AM disappointed with the new release because I just came back on board with the white iPhone and I really don't want to have a reason to fork out retail for the next iPhone.
Purely selfish reasons that I hope its just like the upgrade they did when they went from 3G to 3Gs.
- 08-04-2011, 01:07 PM #52
- 08-04-2011, 01:28 PM #53
- 08-04-2011, 01:43 PM #54
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- 08-04-2011, 04:22 PM #57
If the screen really is the same size I for one will majorly disappointed and the only way apple will keep me as a customer will be if the make a major improvement to said screen eg super amoled + retina display.
Not that apple cares what I plan
- 08-04-2011, 04:27 PM #58
- 08-05-2011, 05:19 AM #59
I think the retina display is one of the best screens on the market competing with samoled plus screen on Galaxy S2. most reiewers agree the deciding factor is what you use the phone for. i watch alot of video so the amoled plus could potentially be better for ME.
However i already have the retina display on my phone and at the moment i think ios5 is a bit lacklustre an upgrade so the software alone wont tempt me to upgrade. so the hardware needs to be really good for me to upgrade my handset and top of My list is a slightly larger screen. if the screen isnt larger i would be looking for a screen improvement elsewhere otherwise i will probably use my upgrade on a different handset. and anyway just because something is the best at the moment doesnt mean it cant be improved
- 08-05-2011, 05:53 AM #60
We won't even get into iOS preference or opinions, since they have zilch to do with the retina display anyways. It simply comes down to personal wants, this is obvious, but when you say something needs major improvement, it makes very little sense when said "something" (See: retina display) is the best quality screen on the market.
- 08-05-2011, 09:45 AM #61
just to clarify. when i said needs major improvement, i didnt mean that the retina display wasnt a quality screen i was meaning from a personal point of view if apple want me to upgrade to the iphone 5 and it doesnt have a larger screen (which this thread suggests). and as i mentioned a larger screen is My biggest want. then i would be looking for it to be improved in other ways. e.g. by it also being an amoled plus screen.
so it only needs improvement to make me want to buy it not because there are any serious issues with it
- 09-10-2011, 03:43 PM #62
The issue is Apple expects everyone to upgrade every year because its a new model. I liked the iP4, but not the only carrier it was on at the time so I got rid of it. For me to return to an iPhone I need improvements, lets start with the antenna (real or perceived) but Jobs did tell us all we were holding it wrong. Next display, I agree the current display is great, but that doesn't mean Apple should sit on their butt and not push the envelope farther. The upcoming Android devices running ICS OS 4.0 will have 720P HD displays 1280x720 and will definitely give the iPhone display a run. Battery life, well that again is personal, you can always add a Mophie Juicepack Air on your iPhone or find a charger.
To me there has to be a compelling reason to get the next iPhone, it would make my life easier, syncing with my MBP, my wifes iMac, my iPod integration in my Subaru etc, but for the $$$$ I need an upgrade over last years iPhone tech and not just a camera upgrade (IP4 does have the best camera I have used in a mobile phone). My personal preferences, opinions and wants, needs, and desires. I'm not an Apple hater, but an honest Apple reviewer.
- 09-10-2011, 03:47 PM #63
- 09-10-2011, 05:16 PM #64
Oh my, well I will always tell it like I see it regardless of the OS. I have owned the devices running iOS 3 & iOS 4, Android's Honeycomb, Froyo & Gingerbread, BlackBerry OS 7 and WP7 and WP7.5 (leaked update). ALL of them have had parts that I found to be great, and not so great. I still visit forums on every OS type including Android Central, WPCentral, CrackBerry and TiPB to keep myself up to some level of insight.
My point regarding the display is Apple shouldn't up the size just because everyone else is, but consumers doe expect to have a bumped up spec list (whether some folks like it or not) otherwise its really just a different looking phone with most of the same internals. Apple does have stiff competition and its pretty clear they see that.
So I do hope the design has a wow factor, but I also hope we see a bump in other areas than processor. More RAM, storage would be nice and I do agree we likely won't see LTE but that to me is the bigger bummer (if its true). Verizon is touting their LTE and to not have it on their iPhone will be a downer, and likely there are a number of would be buyers who won't be buyers.
- 09-10-2011, 05:47 PM #65
- 09-10-2011, 10:04 PM #66
I will agree with you on that. I do appreciate Apples design and engineering but I really hate the slow (death) incremental upgrade process. I would like something more perhaps every other year but something MORE. Bump the display size and resolution to keep the super high density. Please give us 64GB they will sell (but they don't want to cannibalize the iPod touch market). Its time to recognize your customers will continue to buy but they deserve more.
- 09-10-2011, 10:37 PM #67
Its time to recognize your customers will continue to buy but they deserve more.[/QUOTE]
That is exactly why they wont. Because they know people will buy no matter what so why give the customers what they want and then not have anything to add to the next years model.
- 09-10-2011, 11:57 PM #68
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- 09-11-2011, 10:06 PM #70
The iPhone 4 and the 3GS are still outselling any other smartphone today. The nearest competitor (similar price range, specs & capabilities) has been the Galaxy S line. The original S shipped (not necessarily sold) 10-12 million units. The S2 ~5 million units. During the same time frame Apple sold (not just shipped) 65-70 million iPhones.
Google touts Android activation numbers, but never actual sales numbers. Samsung announces these Galaxy S "shipment" headlines when they feel like it. They quit giving specifics in their earnings report. Same with Motorola, HTC & Sony. I wonder why?
The iPhone has competitors, but they are flailing while iP4 is flying. iPhone 5 is going to leave them even further back. The S2 is arguably the hottest 'droid right now. The Droid Bionic debuts this weekend after months of delays, but no one cares. Everyone's waiting for Nexus Prime and Ice Cream Sandwich, but will there really be that many buyers? How well have the past 2 Nexus devices sold?
The fact is the iPhone 4 design still wins the "wow factor" in most peoples' opinion. iPhone 5 will be faster and have better components. Most importantly it will have iOS 5. Apple is not worried about the competition. Apple is worried they can't make iPhones fast enough to meet demand for the remainder of this year.
There's no criticism for people who want a 4.5" screen, 4G, NFC or a physical keypad. There are companies out there who will make devices with some or all of those requirements. Apple will continue to make iPhones that the rest of the people will want.
- 09-11-2011, 10:16 PM #71
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- 09-12-2011, 12:01 AM #73
Just because they don't put out a new phone every 6 months does not mean they are stagnant. The 15 month old (ancient in smartphone years) iPhone 4 is still competitive with the latest & greatest Android phone. (Yes, I know techies will argue the point. But sales numbers don't lie.) iPhone 5 will leapfrog the competition in terms of overall user experience. That's stagnant?
Apple will sell about $60 billion worth of iPhones this year. That number will be closer to $100 billion in 2012. That's just iPhones, not including iPads, iPods & Macs. That is the exact opposite of what is happening with RIM's revenue. You don't need to worry about Apple's business.
Apple's strategy is not to try and please everyone all the time. They build the best product by their standards. People get to vote with their money and the largest vote has been going to iPhone. It will be an even larger landslide margin in the next 12 months.
Like I said, it's fine to want what you want. Just don't assume that everyone else wants the same thing. Follow the money and it's very clear that most people want what Apple is making.
- 09-12-2011, 06:26 AM #75