- 03-02-2011, 11:26 PM #26
- 03-02-2011, 11:40 PM #27
However once you use it, you wonder how you ever did without it. Especially when you are in areas where free WiFi is not available.
There are no doubt currently more places where WiFi ain't free, than places where it is free. It's those places where it isn't free where this makes a difference.
Being able to check your email while you talk or comparison shop over the internet while you have a vendor on the line, or review the vendor's catalogue while you have him on the line is convenient.
If I'm on my laptop and my landline phone rings, I don't close my laptop and quit browsing the internet, or checking my email, etc. while I'm on the landline phone.
And if I'm on the web, using my iphone and a call comes through, I'd find it inconvenient to "close" my browser or email and stop what I was doing on the internet, using my iphone, until after my conversation was over.
I can talk and continue right on doing whatever I was doing on the web before I took the call, same as I would were I home using my laptop and my phone rang.
Of course, it goes without saying that much of your choice depends on if you are in areas where free WiFi connections are readily available, many of us are not, and on if your phone service is dependable. If I were getting poor phone service, I'd not stick with the carrier no matter who it was.
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- 03-03-2011, 12:40 AM #28
- 03-03-2011, 07:51 AM #29iPhone Experts
- 767 Posts
To all the AT&T fanboys crying "BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNAL ISSUES!!!!!!!" (And normally I wouldn't do this, but you folks DID come in here and start basking the ViP) :
While it may be true that you yourself don't have signal issues, let's ask somebody that might be more familiar with the signal issues than you, AT&T:
AT&T Admits New York City iPhone Service Sucks: Gothamist
- 03-03-2011, 09:28 AM #30
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- 03-05-2011, 08:57 AM #37iPhone Newbie
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Ive had the ip4 from VZW since it came out and have not had one issue. I tweeked a few settings and it has performed perfectly. The ability to talk and surf is a rather small feature to me. I would rather be able to use my device freely in any area with awesome coverage.
- 03-05-2011, 09:27 AM #38
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- 03-05-2011, 10:17 AM #39
Also to the previous poster who said "so much for the Verizon iPhone", my viP4 has unlimited data grandfathered, and since AT&T no longer offers that, I feel I got the better end of the stick by staying with Verizon.
(now if I had gotten into it when AT&T offered unlimited, this would be a totally different conversation )
- 03-05-2011, 11:02 AM #40
Sorry guys, we are not the bad guys. It is not fair for AT&T to take our money and then treat us as a "problem."
The iPhone is a success; get over it. Stop explaining and complaining and invest.
(I try to get past my anger enough to give AT&T their due. On my recent annual trip to San Francisco, I was able to make and receive calls and I was, for the first time in four years, able to do data applications, nominally 3G, on my iPhone 4. I do not know whether to attribute this to AT&T or the new iPhone but it was certainly welcome. There have been one or two times in lower Manhattan where I got faster data service over AT&T than over Verizon. However, I must still carry my Verizon MiFi when I go into the city to be sure of having any service at all. I use the Mifi by default for both voice over IP and other data applications.)
- 03-05-2011, 11:20 AM #41
May be based upon how one views the iPhone. To me the iPhone is a computer on which I occasionally make phone calls. I like for my computers to multi-task. I do not want to have to give up access to all other apps just to make a phone call.
While I use both AT&T and Verizon (MiFi) for data, I do my voice calls over IP (Skype). This is true without regard to what computer, PC, MacBook Air, iPad, or iPhone, or which carrier, I happen to be using at the moment. For me, the other computer application that I am doing at the moment, often trumps the phone call.
Of course, if one turns all voice calls into data calls, the issue of simultaneity of voice and data goes away.
So, not a deal breaker.
On the other hand, it would be nice if either carrier were good enough that I did not have to pay both, just to get a reasonably reliable level of service. For example, when iOS4.3 comes out, it would be nice if I could drop my MiFi. It would be nice to carry only one device and worry about the charge of one battery. Whatever AT&T says, no matter whose fault they think it is, for those of us who live or work in NYC, their service does not meet that standard.
- 03-05-2011, 11:44 PM #42
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- 03-06-2011, 07:39 AM #44
There are still plenty of airports in the U.S. which don't have free wifi access, to say nothing of numerous business establishments.
If I'm in my car, on a moderate distance trip, and my wife or another passenger wants to use my ipad, I'll be able to tether it to the phone, let her use the ipad in the car, as I drive, and still have use of my phone to talk on without disturbing/interrupting whomever is on the ipad or laptop.
What if I'm in a restaurant or other business establishment, as I was just last evening, where the wifi is present, but locked?
People bring up the simultaneous voice and data thing, but equally as important, might be the conference calling thing too.
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- 03-06-2011, 07:56 AM #45
- 03-06-2011, 08:30 AM #46
- 03-06-2011, 09:02 AM #47
Noone is saying that they wouldn't take voice/data at the same time. However, that doesn't make it a big deal. Many users stay on WiFi all the time (like myself) and STILL don't end up using data while on the phone. I know, for myself, there has never been a time I was on the phone and I missed the ability to transfer data.
It's just not that big of a deal to most of us. No reason to use obscure accusations in order to prove a point, imo Truthfully, if it *was* a big deal, big enough to offset the unlimited data plan I have with Verizon, I'd be the first one in line to make the switch to AT&T.
- 03-06-2011, 09:19 AM #48
Indeed, one could make a valid argument, that it's "no big deal" to be able to gain access to the internet on a cell phone at all as many people don't even use smart phones.
A modern, state of the art cell phone, should be able to utilize voice and data at the same time over it's network and without depending on free Wifi.
It should also be able to handle conference calling with the ability to put one or more of the parties on hold if need be, or disconnect one or more of the parties without disconnecting all of them.....especially if the cost for a phone which will do the above, is the same as the cost of one which will not.
If it's truly "no big deal", then why is Verizon working to bring this feature to their subscribers???......unless they're being "ridiculous" and spending so much effort on a "small deal" or "minutia".
The bottom line is that this is an operating feature that many people either already "expect", or for those who don't expect it, would certainly not turn it down were it available.
No need to pooh pooh it, as I see some in here doing.
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- 03-06-2011, 09:25 AM #49
Well, I'm certainly not saying that it's a useless feature, just less than useful to me and many users who are on viP4. If it was the huge deal it seems to be to some, I'd recommend they go ahead and make the switch to AT&T.
If my choice was to give up Unlimited Data for a capped data package with the ability to talk on the phone and receive data at the same time, there is no way I would, personally, take that deal. We can chase this rabbit all over, and at the end of the day, that's the choice I see.
Can I come up with crazy scenarios where that would bother me? Yeah, probably, but in the real world, I just haven't felt this particular limitation in the month or so I've owned my phone.
To sum up: If Verizon suddenly had the feature, I'd take it. If I had to give up anything for it, ANYTHING, I'd probably pass.
To each their own, luckily there are two carriers.
PS. I wasn't saying your whole post was rediculous, I should have been more specific. The rediculous part was using the fact that people would take a free upgrade in service as a way to prove that it's a game-changing feature.
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- 03-06-2011, 09:31 AM #50