who switched from Android to iOS and why??
Ok, I have been using the OG Droid since its debut. I have been waiting on the Thunderbolt, but am really discouraged with the release issue(s). I have always liked the look of the iPhone, but never used one. I am really curious, but not sure if I should jump, especially since I heard there was a $120 restocking fee if you return it? Just looking for thoughts, both positive and/or negative. Thanks
- 02-25-2011, 11:37 AM #2
- 02-25-2011, 11:37 AM #3
I switched from an incredible to the iphone 4 -- for a day and then switched back to the DINC. I had been waiting for th Thunderbolt and became fed up withthe situation so I went back and bought another I phone. I've had it for 3 or 4 days now and have to say I actually really like it. I miss Google Maps on Android (far superior than the iphone version) and Google's voice integration, but the screen, the apps, and the hardware are really wonderful. Hopefully next week Apple will introduce more cloud integration. I may still buy an Android device, but I'm going to wait until iphone 5 and all the 4G devices are released. As an aside, I find myself using Facetime and Skype video (over 3G) often to talk to my kids, which is really great! Gmail syncs well and so do my contacts.
You can find my initial impressions here:
- 02-25-2011, 11:58 AM #4
$35 restocking fee, at least at the Verizon store.....
I was a HTC Evo user and decided to switch from Sprint to Verizon for better cell coverage in my area. I decided on the iPhone because I wanted one since their initial release, but never considered switching to AT&T because of inferior coverage (they don't even have 3G in my area). I liked Android, a LOT, but was convinced that I would love the iphone just as much... boy was I wrong.
I may get flamed for saying this, since this IS an iPhone forum, but IMO, Android is king here... there are just so many things that I took for granted in Android that iOS simply does not offer, or is incredibly difficult and/or needs jailbreaking to accomplish. Here are a few of my MAJOR complaints:
1) Notifications - They absolutely suck in iOS, plain and simple. The drop-down notification bar in Android is awesome. In iOS, notifications are just blue popup windows on your screen. Sometimes they get hidden behind new notifications and just disappear, and sometimes they seem to dismiss themselves, while other times they will just stack on top of eachother. Very annoying....
2) Calendar - Not up to par. I like to be reminded or nagged when I have an appointment alert, and have the option to snooze the alert for a given amount of time. This is not possible in iOS that I have found. You get a single alert, and popup window, that is easily lost in the shuffle (see above). There is also no week view in the stock calendar, only day or month. There are a lot of great calendar apps in the app store, but none that completely satisfy all of my needs.
3) Navigation - Android users need to be thankful for Google Navigation. It is awesome and iOS does not have anything even close to this, especially for free. There are TomTom apps in the app store that offer similar functionality (sans the google search integration) but cost anywhere from $25 and up. Google nav is priceless. The iOS maps app is similar to the google maps app that I had on my blackberry a few years ago. A decent map application, but leaves me wanting more.
4) Customization - I probably don't need to go here, everyone probably knows enough about this. In iOS, what you see is what you get. Sure, you can change the wallpaper. But anything else is too much of a pain to be worth it, or requires jailbreaking. Could not believe how difficult it was to add some ringtones to my iphone. Unless you purchase them in itunes, it requires downloading, converting, changing file extensions, and syncing them to your phone in itunes.... in other words, hardly worth it. Also, there is no customizing the SMS tones or email tones, period. What apple gives you (10 choices or so) is all you get, you can't even add more.
Also, I really like having the option to change my keyboard in Android (I love swype), as well as SMS apps etc. Forget it on the iphone, not happening.... This is just the tip of the iceberg, smartphones are all about customization, I like to have the freedom of choosing what I want.
5) Google integration - I am a Google Apps (for my domain) business user. I use GMail, Google Docs, Google Voice, Calendar, and pretty much everything else that Google offers. All of these services are pretty tightly integrated in Android. In iOS it is a bit too cumbersome. I am able to use most of these services still, but they are scattered throughout many apps that do not work well together.
Okay, so there are my gripes. I cannot say that I am completely dissatisfied with the iphone, because there are plenty of things that it does very well:
Netflix app - I have been wanting this for a while now. I got it, watched a movie, and that was it. Probably won't use the app again. I am rarely in a position where I really need to watch a movie on my little smartphone screen. It is a very neat app to have, but I don't need it.
Skype Video Chat - I was really disappointed that Skype had not released this for Android yet. I had a FFC on my Evo, but no skype app to video chat with anyone.... still kinda bummed that it isn't released yet, since I will likely be going back to android.
Facetime - This is very cool.... very very cool....
Other things worth noting:
- Screen is very nice
- Battery life is quite exceptional (this is the big downer for most android phones)
- iPod integration is a plus
- There are more accessories for iphone
- The iphone hardware design is second to none, I love the way this phone looks/feels
- More/higher quality apps in the app store (android is slowly catching up, though)
- Really nice camera (my Evo had a very nice camera too)
Everyone can call me names and shun me from the forums here if you would like, but I am just being brutally honest. The iPhone is beautiful, a really nice phone. But coming from Android, iOS has a LOT of catching up to do.....
I am going to return the iphone next week and wait for the Thunderbolt. I might try iPhone again someday, but right now it is just not for me....
- 02-25-2011, 12:17 PM #5
- 02-25-2011, 12:57 PM #6
Only thing I Android has better in my opinion is notifications. All the other stuff about customization and stuff is user preference. But Android's notification system is clearly superior. Other than that everything else is complete overkill. A jailbroken iPhone > rooted Android device IMO. Everything with the iPhone is easier in my opinion. Some people like sitting down for hours at a time to figure out stuff. That's all good and well but I don't.
And of course Google integration should be better on Android. That's a no brainer but again that's user preference because everyone isn't heavily invested in Google's services. But for those that are, they will definitely have the better experience on an Android device. But besides that, my EVO was buggy at times, bad battery life, I don't like the menu-heavy OS and I think it's overkill. I do wish iOS offered more customization options but not as much as Android. They over did it there. The email is inconsistent depending on the device you get. Meaning that on vanilla Android, email works better than email on one with HTC Sense. I don't get that. Shouldn't have to go to the app market to get a decent email app. I like Android a lot but I just don't like having to manage my device. Whether it's managing the battery, the apps via an app killer or all the options in the system. I just like being able to pick up the iPhone and going and not having to dedicate hours at a time to "get it right". Just my thoughts.
- 02-25-2011, 01:00 PM #7
I used an Android for over a year, to get me by while I patiently waited for Verizon to get the iPhone. I received my Verizon iPhone on the 7th and won't ever look back!! Android was always lagging, choppy, apps below par, apps slow to respond, heck I sometimes couldn't even answer a call because my Android would lag so bad or not respond at all until it was good and ready, good thing I never needed to call 911!
They create a new Android phone each month it seems like, quickly forgetting to ever give the people with an "older" Android device a software update to correct ongoing bugs/issues.
Because I own everything Apple, I don't miss anything Google, I'll take my iCal, Mail, Address Book, any day! I feel like anything the Android could do Apple does it better for me!
- 02-25-2011, 01:21 PM #8
As much as I love my iPhone, I think you're absolutely right and that was a very good post. It just so happens that for me, those aren't big issues at all. If they were, though, then I'd still have an Android phone. In the same token, though, I have just as many problems with Android - most of which you probably wouldn't consider problems at all.
Just different strokes for different folks.
- 02-25-2011, 01:29 PM #9
I have been a die hard Android since the Original Droid came out. Prior to that I had loved my iPod Touch and swore by it. However once I got into rooting and flashing ROMs I swore I would never use the iOS until it got more innovative. Well I am intrigued by it and decided that after work tonight I am going to pick up the ip4 and give it a fair go. I have a macbook and do enjoy Apple products. I will report back and let you know my findings. Its going to be hard to put down my Incredible, but I have owned every major OS out there except for iOS so why not lol.
- 02-25-2011, 01:41 PM #10
I really wanted to love this phone. Like I said, the hardware design is second to none, just beautiful. It is just the little quirks in the software that are holding me back. I really hope to see some improvements in the coming OS releases. Maybe I will give it another go in a year or two.
All else aside, both platforms are incredibly innovative and amaze me every day. The competition between the two platforms is great for all of us, they are only going to get better.
- 02-25-2011, 01:41 PM #11
I <3 my iPhone but all your arguments are legitimate.
The notification system sucks, and not in a good way. Supposedly, that's aimed to be revamped for iOS 5, and hopefully we will see information to that on 3/2 but no guarantees to either of those.
The Calendar is good, I really like the ease of integration with Google, but I agree it would be nice to have a reminder that I can "snooze" or flat out "dismiss".
I'm not sure the lack of built in navigation is a knock against the iPhone so much as the Google Navigation on Android is just a pro in it's column. There are a bunch of great GPS applications on the iPhone, some of them free, some of them paid for.
Customization is different for everyone. Apple could allow more, but I'm ok at what I can do without jailbreaking in that regard ( though I jailbreak for other reasons ).
In the end it comes down to what device does what you want with as little inconvenience to your work flow and increases your productivity, be it phone calls, emails, texting, gaming, whatever.
- 02-25-2011, 01:50 PM #121) Notifications -
2) Calendar -
3) Navigation -
4) Customization -
I never used swype before, just seen it. It does bug me the keyboard does not always rotate to landscape, depending on the App.
5) Google integration
My upgrade with no price reduction beyond subsidized had came up a couple days before Christmas and the rumors were very strong so I decide to hold out instead of getting an Android. I think if the iPhone didn't come to Verizon, I was going to hold out for one of the 4G handsets due to their specs (I don't' have 4G but having the horsepower on the phones isn't a bad thing).
There are definitely some things that need redesigned or polished in iOS. I also love how Apple releases the updates and you don't wait until the manufacture then the carrier to push updates out. It wouldn't be as bad if Google would have Sprint or Verizon carry a Nexus phone. I guess I can be impatient about OS updates on the phone, but after coming from a Storm 1 and 2, well, looking for something that made the phone better was always on my agenda...
I think either platform is a great one, and will come down to personal preference of the phone itself.
- 02-25-2011, 02:05 PM #13
I will only switch if it offers more the what I get in android. While its easy to use and looks purdy, thats just the end of it. I like the social networking integration, the "tap and hold for more options" I like how you can get another android phone, enter your Gmail information and all your content comes back. No need to hook it up to a computer with a cable its all done over the air. (great if you are at the store doing an exchange like I had to do last november you can start using the phone right away)
- 02-25-2011, 02:55 PM #14
- 02-25-2011, 03:36 PM #15iMore Pro
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Android devices I've owned....Original Droid, Ally, Fascinate, Incredible and Droid X...in the beginning, they are smooth and fast but then they become slow, sluggish and very laggy. I do love the notifications and Google voice turn by turn directions is fantastic. But I have TomTom on my iPhone and am customizing the notifications more since I JB it. For me personally, I'll never go back to Android.
- 02-25-2011, 05:37 PM #16
I came from over a year of Android and the last phone being the Evo since launch. I never thought of an Iphone until this last year going to Apple computers and Apple Tv at home. I love apple products.
Anyways, I got the Iphone for everything to work together. I am not sure I would have an Iphone if it was not for the other Apple products..
my list of things that suck or need improvement on Iphone:
notifications got without saying. SUCK.
I think android is easier to use in many ways. I MISS LONG PRESS. which brings up all options. If I am looking at a photo all I do is long press to forward to FB, twitter, email, etc.
I miss google integration.
Google nav is second to none.
Google voice was AWESOME.
Sending and forwarding texts was way easier and better on Android.
THings I think Iphone does better
I don't miss widgets. After a month or so of using them I get sick of them. I like the way apple does it with basically a app launcher.
I don't like how on the Evo you had to change every setting just to get the battery through the day. IPHONE BLOWS Android away in the battery department.
Things do work better or Iphone but not as much as people make out. I used Android long enough to learn how things worked.
Iphone screen is better then EVO but still wish it was 4 inches. I find I dont browse the web as much with Iphone as I did with Evo because of screen size. I also don't like that some sites are automatically phone size and I have to go to bottom to make regular site. Evo I could set to stay I the way I wanted.
In the end I like the Iphone and will stay with it to utilize the Apple Eco system I have and in the end that is what is most important to me.
- 02-25-2011, 06:45 PM #17
- 02-26-2011, 01:44 AM #18
- 02-26-2011, 09:11 AM #19iPhone Newbie
- 21 Posts
Switched from a Droid Incredible. Had Moto Droid before that.
Overall, am very happy with the switch. Battery life is much MUCH better, tons of apps/games, and overall quality in OS/physical build are some of things I like. Also like that when an updated OS is available, I don't have to wait indefinitely for it to be made available for my device (like Froyo, Gingerbread, etc).
My dislikes are notifications, lock screen not showing info, and slippery phone made of glass. I put a bumper on it to help keep it from sliding around. Also hoping iOS 5 fixes notifications and put more information on the lock screen.
- 02-26-2011, 10:21 AM #20
I love the widgets. The calendar widget is priceless. All my appointments and stuff are right there.
The thing I hate most about Android is that it's like a PC. It gets laggy and slow after time. You either have to root it or buy new again. I had the original droid and I was happy with it. Then I... got.... Fro..... yo...... it........ can be slow at t....... times.
- 02-26-2011, 10:22 AM #21
I may be eating my words here.... after reading the *rumors* about the Thunderbolt having abysmal battery life, I am starting to wonder if I should return the iphone or just stick with it. I knew the Thunderbolt would not have as good of battery life as the iphone, but I am not really looking forward to a giant extended battery on the phone to make it functional. The iphone performs quite well as far as battery life is concerned.... maybe I will wait until the next breakthrough in battery technology before I go back to Android.
I will just be praying that apple does something with notifications in iOS 5. But then I wonder.... notifications have been horrible since the original iphone, why would I expect them to change in iOS 5??? Why wasn't this issue addressed a long time ago?
- 02-26-2011, 10:47 AM #22
- 03-02-2011, 01:14 AM #23
Why not jailbreak the phone? I did it on Day One and was able to customize the phone to my liking. Use iRealSMS or BiteSMS for text notifications and Lockinfo for e-mail/voicemail/text msgs/missed phone call/realtime weather info. from your lockscreen. If you like/miss haptic feedback on the keyboard, download HapticPro (jailbreak app).
- 03-02-2011, 08:28 AM #24
I also switched from an Incredible and so far I'm loving the iPhone. I have never owned an Apple product really so I wasn't sure what to expect. I really liked my Android device but was getting bored with it and ready for a change. I have always had iPhone envy so I had to see what it was all about!
- 03-02-2011, 08:30 AM #25
I think I will wait until iOS 5 and see what it brings. If apple doesn't offer a better notification system with iOS 5 I will go ahead and jailbreak. Who knows, maybe I will get brave and do it before this, but I'm just not in a big hurry to do it.
The first week I had the iphone, I was getting very frustrated with the missing features I had in Android. But now, I have become used to iOS and I'm starting to like it for what it is, and not what it is not. There are plenty of things that I like better on the iphone, and they outweigh the negatives at this point. I am glad I decided to keep it.