- 02-10-2011, 03:37 PM #51
"Verizon Wireless, is the wireless phone provider that owns and operates the second largest mobile telecommunications network in the United States, based on a total of 94.1 million U.S. subscribers, as of Q4 2010 vs the largest carrier AT&T with, as of, Q4 2010 had 95.5 million total subscribers."
That was before a bunch of people leaving ATT for Verizon. An estimated 40% of ATT iPhone users are leaving. So that would make Verizon bigger then ATT. Now I am not sure about "other" world carriers, but I highly doubt any of them are bigger then the two American top dogs. So if you are Apple, why would you **** off your largest market base?
By delaying the iPhone 5 release 4-5 months, you don't **** off anyone and make more money. You calm the ATT crowd down by saying that you are working on some "magical" iPhone 5 that will even make you toast, and you release an iPhone 5 that works for GSM and CDMA that is bomb, instead of some 4Gs BS. Now some of you keep arguing that it's all about the money. If it is, then it would be another benefit to Apple to release for the holidays. This will not only be because of holiday shopping season but more people would be eligible for an upgrade then. Now I know that a lot of people still buy at full retail, but the more people are able to upgrade the more units they will sell.
Again, that's my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
- 02-10-2011, 04:07 PM #52
Companies have to make money all year long. They will not risk losing money and market share just to release a phone 4 month late to appease VZW users. It's ridiculous if anyone thinks they are going to now change their release dates of the iPhone just because they have added 1 carrier. They have much more at stake than Verizon and it's customers.
And like I said, everyone will see at WWDC. No real need in discussing it any further.
- 02-10-2011, 04:21 PM #53
- 02-10-2011, 05:11 PM #54
Who knows what will happen in June. It is possible, however unlikely, that there could be some sort of delay. It is also very possible that we could see a minor hardware refresh with more focus being on the new software. Remember also that we have yet to see an official white iPhone 4. A white iPhone 4 with GSM\CDMA capabilities and 64gb would not be the smallest hardware change Apple has made a big deal out of. And I certainly think many consumers would be happy to get their hands on such a beast.
- 02-10-2011, 05:22 PM #55
- 02-10-2011, 05:41 PM #56
Also, maybe the new release this Summer will be the iPhone "nano/mini/whatever" since that's the newest tech-rumor.
Between iOS5, the white iPhone 4 and the smaller iPhone, that would generate enough hype for WWDC.
I do not think we're going to see a massive upgrade to the iPhone 4 this Summer, I think that will be saved for the LTE iPhone but we'll see...
- 02-10-2011, 05:56 PM #57
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- 02-11-2011, 12:40 PM #59
I picked up 2 ViP. One for me and one for my wife. She used her upgrade and I used her grandpa's. My next upgrade is 03/12, hers will be 10/12, and her grandpa will be 10/12 as well. Her sis which is on our plan is due for one in April, but she will be using it, prolly for ViP. Her parents have 3 lines with V. But they tend to use their upgrades. I believe 2 of them will be available this summer/fall and one early next year. I'm not worried tho. iPhones hold their value. We could both upgrade in March of 2012 if need be. Since I will be able to sell our 2 ViP 4s (sell on CL for $400+ each, as 16GB 3GSs are selling right now for $300-400 and that's almost 2 years after they came out) to cover one full retail purchase ($600), and one upgrade ($200), and maybe some accessories.
- 02-13-2011, 01:05 AM #60
Apple has one of the most, if not THE most, regimented product cycles out of all of the major tech companies. iPhones are announced in June, and go on sale about a month or so after that. New iPods are announced in September. The iPads will be announced in March. (though there is strong speculation that will be moved to september to match the iPod cycle) And Macs come whenever the new tech is ready.
Apple is as predictable as sunrise and sunset. There WILL be a new iPhone in the summer, and it WILL go to both Verizon and AT&T. We can speculate on how extensive a refresh/makeover it will be, but there WILL be one. If you deny that, then you don't know much about Apple.
- 02-13-2011, 07:34 AM #61
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- 02-13-2011, 11:18 AM #64
I'm betting that the iPhone 5 will be on Verizon- it's the reason why I didn't get the iPhone 4.
The way I see it, there are two possibilities in June:
1) iPhone 5 is another major upgrade, no 3GS-type upgrade. Why? Because the speed at which Android handset manufacturers constantly upgrade/release new hardware puts Apple at a disadvantage in the latest and greatest race. So Apple has to make this one count, it has to be like 2-3 cycles ahead of the current crop of Android phones to stay ahead and keep up until next June.
2) iPhone 5 is a iPhone 4GS. BUT... the iPhone nano is released as well. So the big driver of iPhone sales in 2011 will be at the mid to low range with the nano. The iPhone 5 will sell as well but given the "4GS" upgrades, but there will be that "it's just a iPhone 4" mentality and sales could not be a robust due to the competition with Android.
- 02-13-2011, 04:01 PM #65iPhone Nanite
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I bought my Verizon Iphone from Best Buy and got FREE buy-back service which means with 6 months I can return it for $300.00 towards a Iphone 5, So I will pay $300.00 out of pocket to upgrade to Iphone 5 when/IF it hits Verizon
- 02-13-2011, 09:53 PM #66
What if instead of an iPhone 5 they release the rumored "iPhone nano" ? 1/2 the cost and size of the iPhone 4 to fight android phones in the lower price points?
Just some food for thought, technically would be a new iPhone
- 02-13-2011, 09:58 PM #67
- 02-13-2011, 10:01 PM #68
True but not everyone wants a flagship model either. iPhones only come that way while android comes in high and low end. If apple can make a smaller, less expensive entry level iPhone without sacrificing the experience they will probably be able to sell everyone they can make
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- 02-13-2011, 11:18 PM #72iPhone Intermediate
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lol I always wait the full 2 years to upgrade my phones. Just get the iPhone 4. It's good enough already, then when the iPhone 7 comes out, you can get that one, and it won't have even mattered if you got the 5 instead of 4, because then you would have the 7. :P
- 02-14-2011, 04:10 PM #73
- 02-14-2011, 05:48 PM #74iPhone Nanite
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- 02-14-2011, 05:51 PM #75